07-09-06, 12:40 PM #381
07-09-06, 12:43 PM #382Jesus Christ appeared to me and paraphrased scripture from the New Testament to me as it applied to me.
Delusions are some the most common of the schizophrenia symptoms. Delusions are ideas that you may believe in fervently but actually have no basis in fact. Some people with schizophrenia symptoms hold a single delusion, that seems to dominate their life, while others have many delusions.
07-09-06, 12:46 PM #383Originally Posted by ghost7584
please supply this evidence you have.
07-09-06, 07:37 PM #384Jesus Christ appeared to me and paraphrased scripture from the New Testament to me as it applied to me
Satan and his demons, which have telepathic contact to the minds of men
07-10-06, 08:17 AM #385
Welcome, Ghost 7584.
Don't let 'em get to ya'. Not everyone here agrees with Snakelord, The Preacher, Godless, and KennyJC. Just because you make a statement of faith doesn't mean that you are as delusional as these guys would have you believe.
07-10-06, 10:25 AM #386
he is delusional, if he's trying to convince other people, he has evidence, or for them to ask his personal imaginary friend, for evidence.
what is subjective to him, is only subjective to him.
if it was objective, then we'd all know.
07-10-06, 10:31 AM #387
Originally Posted by mustafhakofi
There are still no grounds for judging a person delusional, just because you do not understand his situation and beliefs.
07-10-06, 10:37 AM #388
If the source/ object of a person's belief has no objective reality then that would be a reasonable definition of delusional, no?
A continued insistence on the reality of something unproveable, intangible and untestable is, in and of itself, a delusion:
A fixed belief that has no basis in reality.
07-10-06, 10:40 AM #389Originally Posted by mustafhakofi
Since there is no evidence to the contrary concerning the existence of God, to believe in such is not "delusional" - merely "irrational"
07-10-06, 10:47 AM #390
That's one definition. The particular one I posted is from the Glossary of Mental Illness Terms...
07-10-06, 10:51 AM #391Since there is no evidence to the contrary concerning the existence of God, to believe in such is not "delusional" - merely "irrational"
irrational - real but not expressible as the quotient of two integers
07-10-06, 10:53 AM #392
Originally Posted by samcdkey
07-10-06, 11:05 AM #393
07-10-06, 11:08 AM #394
I can pick any definition that suits my purpose.
Show me a pi, I like to make my decisions based on facts
07-10-06, 12:54 PM #395
07-10-06, 01:09 PM #396Originally Posted by Sarkus
however for the sake of arguement, I will agree that he is most definitely irrational.
07-10-06, 10:10 PM #397Not everyone here agrees with Snakelord
Pay attention heh.
07-11-06, 08:11 AM #398
Originally Posted by SnakeLord
07-12-06, 02:12 AM #399
Originally Posted by dansufc
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
 Blessed be He in Whose hands is Dominion; and He over all things hath Power;
 He Who created Death and Life, that He may try which of you is best in deed; and He is the Exalted in Might, Oft-Forgiving;
 He Who created the seven heavens one above another: no want of proportion wilt thou see in the Creation of (Allah) Most Gracious. So turn thy vision again: seest thou any flaw?
 Again turn thy vision a second time: (thy) vision will come back to thee dull and discomfited, in a state worn out.
 And We have, (from of old), adorned the lowest heaven with Lamps, and We have made such (Lamps) (as) missiles to drive away the Evil Ones, and have prepared for them the Penalty of the Blazing Fire.
 For those who reject their Lord (and Cherisher) is the Penalty of Hell: and evil is (such) destination.
 When they are cast therein, they will hear the (terrible) drawing in of its breath even as it blazes forth,
 Almost bursting with fury: every time a Group is cast therein, its Keepers will ask, "Did no Warner come to you?"
 They will say: "Yes indeed; a Warner did come to us, but we rejected him and said, `Allah never sent down any (Message): ye are in nothing but an egregious delusion!'"
 They will further say: "Had we but listened or used our intelligence, we should not (now) be among the Companions of the Blazing Fire!"
 They will then confess their sins: but far will be (Forgiveness) from the Companions of the Blazing Fire!
 As for those who fear their Lord unseen, for them is Forgiveness and a great Reward.
 And whether ye hide your word or publish it, He certainly has (full) knowledge, of the secrets of (all) hearts.
 Should He not know, He that created? And He is the One that understands the finest mysteries (and) is well-acquainted (with them).
 It is He Who has made the earth manageable for you, so traverse ye through its tracts and enjoy of the Sustenance which He furnishes: but unto Him is the Resurrection.
 Do ye feel secure that He Who is in Heaven will not cause you to be swallowed up by the earth when it shakes (as in an earthquake)?
 Or do ye feel secure that He Who is in Heaven will not send against you a violent tornado (with showers of stones), so that ye shall know how (terrible) was My warning?
 But indeed men before them rejected (My warning): then how (terrible) was My rejection (of them)?
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 Do they not observe the birds above them, spreading their wings and folding them in? None can uphold them except (Allah) Most Gracious: truly it is He that watches over all things.
 Nay, who is there that can help you, (even as) an army, besides (Allah) Most Merciful? In nothing but delusion are the Unbelievers.
 Or who is there that can provide you with Sustenance if He were to withhold His provision? Nay, they obstinately persist in insolent impiety and flight (from the Truth).
 Is then one who walks headlong, with his face grovelling, better guided, or one who walks evenly on a Straight Way?
 Say: "It is He Who has created you (and made you grow), and made for you the faculties of hearing, seeing, feeling and understanding: little thanks it is ye give.
 Say: "It is He Who has multiplied you through the earth, and to Him shall ye be gathered together."
 They ask: when will this promise be (fulfilled)? If ye are telling the truth.
 Say: "As to the knowledge of the time, it is with Allah alone: I am (sent) only to warn plainly in public."
 At length, when they see it close at hand, grieved will be the faces of the Unbelievers, and it will be said (to them): "This is (the promise fulfilled), which ye were calling for!"
 Say: "See ye? If Allah were to destroy me, and those with me, or if He bestows His mercy on us, yet who can deliver the Unbelievers from a grievous Penalty?"
 Say: "He is (Allah) Most Gracious: we have believed in Him, and on Him have we put our trust: so soon will ye know which (of us) it is that is in manifest error."
 Say: "See ye? If your stream be some morning lost (in the underground earth), who then can supply you with clear-flowing water?"
07-12-06, 07:20 AM #400
So is trusting someone irrational?