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02-14-04, 06:01 PM #135 year old virgin
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Those Crazy Canucks...at it again.
First you invite Conan to town to help offset the damage caused by the SARS outbreak, then you criticize him for doing exactly what he does best? He's no different than South Park in that he's an equal opportunity offender. Why are these guys surprised?
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...n_dc&printer=1
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02-14-04, 06:37 PM #2
I think that pretty much covers it.
Perhaps this says something about the American sense of humor, but hey ... isn't that sort of the point? There's nothing new here.
Personally, I think the CN Tower/Space Needle bit is even more offensive to Canadians. I mean, is it really funny? Are Canadians really that stupid? But therein we find an inherent indictment of the Canadian audience at the actual tapings of the show. After all, they loved it. Ate it up like porridge just right.
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02-14-04, 07:30 PM #3Valued Senior Member
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It was stupid to invite him in Canada. It was even more stupid to use 1million gov money, our money, to get him up here to insult us -- so I guess we deserve what we get.
As for Canadian or American sense of humor, the French/English issue is a very sensitive one. It is touches the core of our pride, unity, and identity. Making jokes about French Canadians is equivalent to a white guy making racist jokes of African or Hispanic Americans. Conan is an idiot for not realizing this. Again, we PAID to have him in our Country, so we're bigger idiots .. I guess.
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02-14-04, 08:14 PM #4Registered Senior Member
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I think bringing conan to canada was awesome cuz he brought all those comedians back to canada and even adam sandler. People should know that
he's a talk show host so his jokes should be taken very lightly. That space needle/CN tower thing was awesome and his clips of visiting various parts of toronto, niagara falls and quebec were funny esp when he brought in scott thompson.
The separatist issue is a very big deal in parts of canada but so is many other things like the railways made by asian but not enough credit is given to them. Being asian i find that also offensive.
But conan is a comedic writer and i must state it again that what he does on television is to make those hard issues a lot lighter than what they are.
He's not like the don cherry issue, whom 1 is a canadian and 2 knows the separatist issue. Conan is just riding on the cherry disaster and trying to soften the issue. Cherry on the other hand, is obnoxious and should never had made those comments. I don't even know why people like him. He's a raving lunatic.
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02-14-04, 08:42 PM #5
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02-14-04, 09:23 PM #6
dsdsds
It happens. In the 1980s and early 90s, Americans bought millions of Bryan Adams records. I know, it's not the same thing, but still, we got what we deserved.
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02-15-04, 11:20 AM #7Registered Senior Member
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It was definitely an ideal move for the Conan O'Brien Show to come to Toronto. In fact, the shows producer is from T-Dot. Conan said in an interview that he felt there was a connection between the city and the show, not just for PR reasons but because of the producer's background. The $1 million our government used to partially fund his trip was certainly effective; almost every aspect of Canadian media somehow acknowledged his visit, in turn churning out gains for the economy and tourism, however slight.
Triumph's comments about French Canadians were harsh and a bit excessive. French and English Canadians founded our country. In it's early years, the French were the ones who nurtured this country until Britain decided to set up shop. For a good amount of time the French population in Canada significantly outnumbered any other nationalities. How would you feel as the people who essentially created Canada, slighted now by a lack of acknowledgement and support in an Anglo-dominated culture? The issue certainly goes into more depth than this, I know this having discussed it in my Canadian History and Identity course.
Lastly, I don't see Triumph's jabs at the Quebecois as an overly big deal. If we were to hold comedians accountable for every joke made we'd have our work cut out for ourselves.
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02-15-04, 12:57 PM #8
for some reason i thought he was canadian but that is wrong.
conan is usually delightfully offensive and off-color (as put above, equal opportunity offender) toeing a very fine line between funny and outrageous. i think he probably didn't understand the sensitivity to the french thing or he would have been able to see the line more clearly. i don't particularly care for his jabs at homosexuality but it has to be taken lightly.
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02-15-04, 03:34 PM #9Valued Senior Member
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Have these people never seen Triumph in action before? Maybe that the rest of his name is "The Insult Comic Dog" should be a hint.
You never heard Cathy Lee Gifford complaining when he shouted at her, "Hey Cathy Lee, I love your singing! I haven't heard notes like that since my mom got hit by a car!"
Or when he said to Bon Jovi, "So you were in a vampire movie? Finally, a movie in which you were supposed to suck!"
Or when, in the intro to the Star Wars Nerds segment he says, "Lonely men, many of whom have never had sex; not even with a Catholic Priest!"
Humor is an alien concept to some people; and most of them are in politics.
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