Some scientific papers and other references for UFOs

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  1. Ivan Seeking Registered Senior Member

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    The UFO Controversy in America
    by Dr. J. Allen Hynek, 1975
    http://216.128.67.116/pdf/ufocontroversy.pdf


    Refuting Fermi: John B Alexander Ph.D.
    http://216.128.67.116/pdf/fermi.pdf


    300 scientific papers and reviews:
    Go to the following link and search UFO at the bottom of the page.
    http://www.scientificexploration.org/jse.html


    What Is The Responsibility Of The Scientist?
    by Dr. J. Allen Hynek, 1966
    http://www.nicap.dabsol.co.uk/whatresp.htm


    UFOs, Social Intelligence, and the Condon Committee:
    http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/theses/available/etd-05082000-09580026/unrestricted/UFOCRITIQUE.pdf


    Still in Default
    by Dr. Bruce Maccabee
    http://216.128.67.116/pdf/stillindefault.pdf


    Physical Evidence Related to UFO Reports
    The Proceedings of a Workshop Held at the
    Pocantico Conference Center, Tarrytown, New York
    September 29 – October 4, 1997 :
    http://www.scientificexploration.org/jse/articles/ufo_reports/sturrock/toc.html


    The Cometa Report:
    http://www.cufos.org/cometa.html


    Commentary on the Cometa Report:
    http://216.128.67.116/pdf/cometa_commentary.pdf


    Unidentified Flying Objects: An Historical Perspective
    American Society of Mechanical Engineers
    Design Engineering Conference
    George W. Earley
    Americana Hotel, New York City
    May 15-18, 1967
    http://www.nicap.dabsol.co.uk/histper.htm


    FIFTY-SIX AIRCRAFT PILOT SIGHTlNGS INVOLVING
    ELECTROMAGNETIC EFFECTS
    Richard F. Haines, Ph.D.
    Copyright 1992
    http://www.nicap.dabsol.co.uk/92apsiee.htm


    "The UFO hypothesis and Survival Questions"
    ---declassified from SECRET.
    http://www.nsa.gov/docs/efoia/released/ufo/ufo35.pdf


    Atmosphere or UFO?
    by Bruce Maccabee Ph.D.
    Optical physicist for the Navy Deparment
    --on RADAR events
    http://www.scientificexploration.org/jse/articles/maccabee/1.html


    ACCELERATION
    Bruce S. Maccabee, Ph.D.
    http://www.nidsci.org/articles/maccabee/acceleration.html


    French Government UFO Study
    http://www.nsa.gov/docs/efoia/released/ufo/ufo12.pdf


    The Case for the Extraterrestrial Origins of Flying Saucers
    by Stanton Friedman
    http://216.128.67.116/pdf/friedman.pdf


    PANEL URGES STUDY OF UFO REPORTS
    Unexplained Phenomena Need Scrutiny, Science Group Says
    By Kathy Sawyer
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Monday, June 29, 1998; Page A01
    http://www.aliensonearth.com/misc/1998/jun/d29-001.shtml
     
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  3. Ivan Seeking Registered Senior Member

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    Other references

    RB47H over the Gulf of Mexico; 1957
    http://ufos.about.com/library/weekly/aa011000a.htm


    Father Gill and the night visitors; 1959:
    http://ufos.about.com/library/weekly/aa021599.htm


    Betty and Barney Hill: 1961
    (Note: I normally stay away from "abducties" but this case is considered a classic...The classic. (Classic what I'm not sure)
    Considered by many to be the original modern abduction case.
    http://www.nicap.dabsol.co.uk/hilldir.htm


    The Big Sur Filming
    Big Sur, California
    September 15, 1964

    http://www.nicap.dabsol.co.uk/bigsurdir.htm

    Note: I attempted to speak with Mr Mansmann a couple of times. Unfortunately he was too ill to speak and then passed away. I did speak with his wife twice and she was kind enough to have a short discussion with me on both occasions. According to Mrs. Mansmann, Mr. Mansmann maintained the truth of this story until his death last year.


    Shag Harbor; 1967
    http://www.nicap.dabsol.co.uk/shag.htm


    Mansfield, Ohio; 1973
    http://ufos.about.com/library/weekly/aa081098.htm

    http://www.nicap.dabsol.co.uk/coyne.htm

    The FOIA document for this event:
    http://www.cufon.org/cufon/foia_007.htm


    Rendlesham Forest: 1980
    Http://www.mod.uk/linked_files/publications/foi/ufo/ufofilepart1.pdf

    http://www.mod.uk/linked_files/publications/foi/ufo/ufofilepart2.pdf

    http://www.mod.uk/linked_files/publications/foi/ufo/ufofilepart3.pdf

    http://www.mod.uk/linked_files/publications/foi/ufo/ufofilepart4.pdf

    http://www.mod.uk/linked_files/publications/foi/ufo/ufofilepart5.pdf

    http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/foi/ufo/dep_ba1.pdf

    http://ufos.about.com/library/weekly/aa030998.htm

    http://www.rendlesham.com/

    http://www.flyingsaucery.com/Rendlesham/

    NEW BBC REPORT: "UFO lights were 'a prank'"
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/england/suffolk/3033428.stm
    **A full review of the several incidents that constitute this case seem to evade explanation by this report. Note that at least three security officers reported the direct observation of a craft: "A triangular shaped object was seen on the forest floor". More information will be posted as it becomes available.***


    JAL Flight 1628: 1986
    http://ufos.about.com/library/weekly/aa020700a.htm

    http://brumac.8k.com/JAL1628/Jal1628.html

    http://ufos.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.vandra.clara.net/parvati/caus8606.txt


    Belgium; 1989-1991:
    http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Vault/9054/ufobelg.html


    London: 1999
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/448267.stm


    New Jersey; 2001 [probably meteors]
    http://www.nidsci.org/news/newjersey_contents.html

    http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/ufo010717.html

    http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/ufo_nj010719.html

    http://www.rense.com/general11/joisie.htm

    http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=2099468&BRD=1697&PAG=461&dept_id=44551&rfi=6


    More select cases from cohenufo:
    http://www.cohenufo.org/authorsc.html#Malmstrom


    More potential UFO events in history:
    http://ufos.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fourworld.compuserve.com%2Fhomepages%2FAndyPage%2Fufosight.htm
     
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  5. Ivan Seeking Registered Senior Member

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    Some report databases

    International Newspaper Library
    http://www.notizieufo.com/library


    International Organizations
    And Case Files
    http://www.narcap.org/international%20orgs%20case%20files/intlorgscases.htm

    http://ufos.about.com/library/bldata/blsight4.htm

    http://www.ufoinfo.com/organizations/index.shtml

    http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/ufolistg.html


    UFO India:
    http://www.ufoindia.org/


    Victorian U.F.O. Research Society Inc.
    http://members.ozemail.com.au/~vufors/sighting.htm


    US and International:
    National UFO Reporting Center
    http://www.nwlink.com/~ufocntr/


    NICAP:
    http://www.nicap.dabsol.co.uk/casebook.htm


    The Filer Files:
    http://www.ufoinfo.com/filer/index.shtml


    Shadow Research:
    http://www.shadowresearch.com/ufo/ufo_reports.htm


    MUFON:
    http://www.mufon.com/mufonorg.html


    100megs13: [Warning; this site is not known to me but it looked well stocked]
    http://pgrsel.100megs13.com/sys/list.htm


    Aerosphere Magazine:
    http://www.aerosphere.com/Magazine/UFO_stories_/ufo_stories_.shtml


    Some video and photo databases:
    [Viewer beware! Many photos and videos are obviously hoaxes or nothing of significance]

    http://ufos.about.com/cs/ufodigitalvideo/
    at this link you will find,
    http://ufos.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dreaman.org%2Fmoviegallery.html
    The Edwards AFB incident is very good but it is 8 minuts long. Low speed users beware. Also, see the Patterson/Bentwaters interview.


    Note: Some videos are interesting and many are nothing at all.
    http://www.yorkshireufoinfo.homestead.com/NASAmissionfootage.html

    http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/AndyPage/ufopictu.htm

    http://www.qtm.net/~geibdan/videoclips/

    http://www.ufocasebook.com/videos.html
    Hold on to your seat and watch the video of Lt. Corso. I have no opinion on this subject yet, but from what I do know his credibility has been otherwise established. He died shortly after making this recording. Also, see the interview with Astronaut Gordon Cooper in which he claims to have seen a UFO land at Edwards AFB. I saw this when it first aired. This surely did contribute to my early interest in the subject.

    http://www.ufowisconsin.com/pvgallery.html

    http://www.unexplainable.net/movies/

    http://maldiniszones.homestead.com/XZONE.html

    http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicvideos.html

    http://www.ufodigest.com/video.html

    http://www.ufovideo.com/

    http://www.galactic-server.net/video/video.html

    http://bjbooth.topcities.com/videos2.html

    http://www.uforc.com/

    http://members.tripod.com/~RELYR/UFO_Videos.html

    http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/videoufos.htm
     
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  7. Ivan Seeking Registered Senior Member

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    smore

    UFO case blocked by MoD
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/2537115.stm


    THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE
    http://discover.npr.org/features/feature.jhtml?wfId=1034787


    UFO REPORT
    http://discover.npr.org/features/feature.jhtml?wfId=1010519


    CIA, UFO'S & SECRECY
    http://discover.npr.org/features/feature.jhtml?wfId=1028513
     
  8. Ivan Seeking Registered Senior Member

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    Missing F-89 Case
    Kinross AFB, Michigan
    November 23, 1953:

    http://www.cufon.org/kinross/Kinross_acc_rept.htm

    http://www.cufon.org/kinross/kinross_missing.htm

    http://www.nuforc.org/mancla.html

    http://www.nicap.dabsol.co.uk/kinrossdir.htm


    UFO's over Washington DC, 1952:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A31625-2002Jul19&notFound=true

    http://www.spartechsoftware.com/dimensions/aliens/UFOWashington.htm

    http://www.rense.com/general8/flew.htm

    http://www.subversiveelement.com/UFOWashingtonDC.html


    The Nash/Fortenberry Sighting; 1952
    http://216.128.67.116/pdf/tulien.pdf


    The McMinnville UFO; 1950:
    http://www.ufx.org/mcminn/photo.htm

    http://www.nicap.dabsol.co.uk/trentmac.htm

    http://www.debunker.com/texts/BSMtrentPJK.html

    http://www.nicap.org/cufospaper2.htm



    I contacted the Roerich Museum in New York and confirmed the following quote. The curator’s assistant, being very familiar with this excerpt, then added that Roerich’s wife was also on this expedition. In her diary she comments that this must have been a craft with people from somewhere else; then she suggests the existence of life on other planets. [Ivan]

    Next, from the San Francisco Call, Nov 26, 1896: This light was observed by many prominent individuals including Deputy Secretary of State George A. McCalvy, District Attorney Frank D. Ryan, and E. D. McCabe, the governor's personal secretary.
    From 3000 BC, China: From the book " Memories of the Sovereigns and the Kings " published in the 3rd century AD in China.
    Many more potential historical UFO Quotes:
    http://www.connect.net/mattvest/histqts.html
     
  9. Ivan Seeking Registered Senior Member

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    The Foo-Fighters of WWII
    Foo-Fighters

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    CUFON - UFO Information Service Seattle, Washington

    History of UFO's During World War II
    During world war II the accumulation of sightings of mysterious celestial objects, finally started to worry the military authorities.

    In both camps, high-ranking officials of the intelligence services started to study these strange objects and investigation committees composed of military and scientific personnel were set up in various countries. They had a double purpose: first of all to determine the nature of these flying objects and then to see if they constituted a threat to the security of the nation.

    During world war II, the Allies, just like the Germans, noticed the presence of these enigmatic flying objects above their secret bases. The first reaction of each side was obviously to suspect espionage on the part of their enemy.

    In 1943 the British were the first to set up a special group to enquire into the question of these object. The British set up a small organization to collect evidence. It was headed by Lieutenant General Massey and was inspired by reports from a spy who, in fact was a double agent operating under the orders of the Mayor of Cologne. He had confirmed that the "Foo-fighters" were not German devices, but that the Germans thought that they were Allied weapons which, of course, the British knew was not so.

    Later in 1966, was learned from the British Aviation Minister that project Massey had been officially classified in 1944. Perhaps it was pure coincidence, but the double agent was denounced and executed at the beginning of that year. For their part the Germans did not remain inactive. But in 1944, the Wehemacht asked Oberkommando of the "Luftwaffe (aviation)" to set up a center to collect information on all the various sightings of these mysterious celestial objects.

    This was known as Sonderburo No 13 which, until the time of the German defeat scrupulously applied itself to its job. The short time that this commission was in existence prevented it from coming to any definite conclusions, but it collected an impressive amount of information.

    The first sighting, studied by the Sonderburo, went back two years and came from Hauptmann Fischer, an engineer in civil life. On March 14,1942, at 5:35 p.m., Fischer landed at the secret air base at Banak, in Norway. At that instant the radar picked up a luminous object and Fischer was asked to go up and identify it. At about 10,000 feet the pilot caught sight of the object, and gave a description by radio to the base: an enormous streamlined craft about 300 feet long and about 50 feet in diameter. The "aerial whale" which was Fischer's title for it stayed horizontal for a long moment before rising vertically and disappearing at great speed.

    It was not a machine constructed by the hand of man, Fischer stated in his report. On reading the report, Air Marshall Hermann Goering concluded that the solitude of the north does not seem to have done much for this pilot.

    The report of another interesting incident was carefully preserved in the archives of the German Investigation Committee: that of the launching of an experimental rocket on February 12, 1944, at the Kummersdorf test center.

    On that day the Minister of Propaganda, Joseph Goebbels, S.S. Reichsfuhrer Himmler and S.S. Gruppenfuhrer Heinz Kammler were present at the launching which was being filmed. Some days later the authorities at the base organized a showing of the film. The astonished spectators, could see very clearly a spherical body which followed the rocket and circled around it.

    The authorities immediately suspected Allied espionage. However, an agent informed Himmler that the English were themselves victims of the same sort of phenomenon and thought that it was a new type of German prototype craft. However, the most convincing evidence filed away by the Sonderburo came from a military flying ace.

    On September 29, 1944, at 10:45 a.m., a test pilot was trying out a new Messerschmitt jet, ME 262 Schwalbe, when his attention was suddenly caught by two luminous points situated on his right. He shot at full speed in that direction and found himself face to face with a cylindrical object, more than three hundred feet long with some openings along its side, and fitted with long antennae placed in front up to about halfway along its length. Having approached within about 1,500 feet of the craft the pilot was amazed to see that it was moving at a speed of more than 1,200 m.p.h.
    Source:
    http://www.skiesare.demon.co.uk/foofight.htm

    Other references:
    http://www.altuit.com/webs/wray/The...FooFighters.htm

    http://www.qtm.net/~geibdan/newse/foo/

    http://www.qtm.net/~geibdan/newse/foo/foo2.html

    http://ufos.about.com/library/weekly/aa101501a.htm

    http://www.ufoarea.bravepages.com/e...oofighters.html

    Warning: This site may be some newage garbage...I will have to take a better look. Still, sometimes these sites use legitimate references so I will leave for now:
    http://www.germanufochatter.com/Ger...an-UFO-Foo.html

    http://www.foofig.narod.ru/eng/foo_fighters_of_wwii.htm

    http://www.caus.org/miscufo/mu021901.shtml
     
  10. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Here's one of my favorite UFO reference sites:

    http://www.crank.net/et.html

    Hmmm... looks like a few of the sites Ivan listed are here as well. Perhaps it might be more convenient to use this one link?
     
  11. Ivan Seeking Registered Senior Member

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    Boy you really hopped. I must have really scared you.

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    How many of the government links do we find at your site?
     
  12. VRob Registered Senior Member

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    Ivan,

    Thanks for the Links. It will take me quite some time to scan through all of them, but I will give it an effort.

    I'm especially eager to hear about the Scientific studies and what they concluded in detail. I see they concluded that the subject needs further study, but I'd like to see where/why they came to this conclusion.
     
  13. VRob Registered Senior Member

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    I see your mind is already made up.
     
  14. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    I noticed you linked Narcap. Ted Roe signed up here a while back and presented his website. It turns out his website is a bogus front for UFOlogists, has nothing to do with aviation safety and is run from his parents basement where he lives - a sad case.

    I'm especially eager to hear about the Scientific studies and what they concluded in detail.

    I doubt most of the so-called “studies” in the majority of those sites have any scientific value. They are biased in that ET is inferred when in fact; there is no evidence to suggest or support such claims.

    I see they concluded that the subject needs further study, but I'd like to see where/why they came to this conclusion.

    It’s really quite simple, no evidence – plenty of wild speculation.

    I see your mind is already made up.

    Do you or anyone else have evidence to suggest otherwise?

    I must have really scared you.

    I quiver.
     
  15. Ives Registered Senior Member

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    Ivan

    Historian Richard Dolan points out that modern study of the UFO often fails to see the value of the investigations into the phenomenon that occurred long ago. Keyhoe's work against UFO secrecy as early as the 1950s set the stage for much of what is known today, at least as far as the sightings of the times, and the government's reaction to them.

    Much of Keyhoe's work is now available online. I'm supplying a link to a site with his book "The Flying Saucers are Real" at the link. They were dealing with the same issues then as we do now; there was recently a show (on Discovery? Not sure) which tried to debunk the Mantell incident, in which Capt. Mantell's plane allegedly exploded during a chase of a UFO. Attempts to explain what happened include 1) he passed out from lack of oxygen, and 2) he was chasing a balloon. We're still hearing that explanation; I frankly find the lack of oxygen explanation more plausible than the balloon. But Keyhoe does a good job of examining this case.

    Much of the information provided to Keyhoe is less filtered than anyone would receive now. Keyhoe had a relationship with Ruppelt, and for one of his books, had access to classified Air Force Files. I'm at work at the moment and can't remember which book it was. I'll check tonight.

    Anyway, give this a look.

    http://www.nicap.dabsol.co.uk/fsar-chapters.htm
     
  16. VRob Registered Senior Member

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    Re: Ivan

    Irronically, Capt. Ruppelt, who was head of Project Blue Book for a while, later went on to write a book in support of UFO's being real.

    The late 40's/Early 50's are a great source of information on this topic. There was an open dialog on the subject, as the 'Ridicule' factor had not yet set it.
     
  17. Ivan Seeking Registered Senior Member

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    There is a tool that can be applied uniquely to interviews with military personel and government representitives back then. The body language of deceit was not generally known. There are a number of interviews in which the government representitives deny various claims - esp the ones made in regards to the flaps of the 50s - where nearly every key indicator of someone lying is demonstrated in the speaker's body language.
     

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