I believe the anomalies in The Bible code, ie. the predicted assassination of Prime Minister Netanyahu and the mismatch of gender between ' third ' and 'world war ' were signs indicating to look and think deeply about the code itself, thought times six as the code suggests. I believe the chapter and verse locations of the skip sequence Bible code listed in Michael Drosnin's book ' The Bible Code ' is part of the Bible code itself. This includes - a direct conversion to Gregorian years by straight addition of the chapter and verse numbers eg. Exodus 19 : 12 to 1912 to 1912 AD - a switch of chapter and verse numbers before addition eg. Isaiah 65 : 18 to 1865 to 1865 AD - other methods as well. By following this through the questions / uncertainties that arise from the code after a first glance then dissappear and a code that bluffs a third world war emerges. ' Prime Minister Netanyahu ' is encoded once, from Exodus 19 :12 to Deuteronomy 4 :47. ' 9th of Av is the day of the Third ' appears in the hidden text of Numbers 19 :12 with ' World War ' and the ancient name for Jerusalem ' Ariel '. Exodus 19 :12 Netanyahu Numbers 19 :12 Third / World War Although the encodings are in different Books of the Bible the chapter and verse numbers are the same, 19 :12. These are the only times 19 :12 appears as chapter and verse locations for the skip sequence code in ' Notes on Illustrations'. Exodus Numbers x marks the spot ie. numbers 19 : 12 converts to 1912 converts to 1912 AD. 1912 AD British liner Titanic sinks. At Piltdown in Southeast England ' Piltdown Man ' is discovered, a human skull with an ape-like jaw ( exposed as a forgery years later ) forgery ( making of ) forged document. forge make or write in fraudulent imition fraud dishonest trick, criminal deception Max von Laue demonstates that crystals are composed of regular, repeated arrays of atoms. note. The Bible code was decoded using arrays. Both ' in 5760 ' and ' in 5766 ', the years 2000 and 2006 in the modern calendar, are encoded with ' World War ' in Deuteronomy 11 : 14 & 11: 15 ( The Bible Code p.189 ) Deuteronomy 11 : 14 11 : 14 1114 1114 AD 1114 AD Tower of Victory built by Mas'ud III at Ghazni. Earliest record of the great international fairs of Champagne, at Bar-sur-Aube and Troyes. summary World War 1114 Tower of Victory, Champagne I believe the words and positions of the skip sequence Bible code have been chosen with precision so that the full code is much larger and of a different theme than appears initially. The code links together like a chain. There is a contents list and summary at the end of this post. There are words that are encoded more than once, some are encoded three times in close proximity. Libya The name ' Libya ' appears three times with ' atomic holocaust ',once crossing those words, and twice more on the same line, appearing all three times in Exodus 34 : 6 - 7. ( The Bible Code p.184 ) delayed ' Death, July to Amman ' stated the full hidden text that crossed his name. The word ' delayed ' appeared right above. ' Delayed ' appeared twice more with ' Prime Minister Netanyahu '.......... ( The Bible Code p.124 ) Booth ' A .Lincoln ' is encoded twice, in Genesis and Deuteronomy. The name of his assassin, ' Booth ' appears three times in one verse of the Bible that crosses ' Lincoln '. ( The Bible Code p.81 ) delayed Libya Booth delayed Libya Booth delayed Libya Booth US President Abraham Lincoln was assassinated by J W Booth on 14 April 1865.The Hutchinson Chronology of World History, Compact Edition, the history book I use, lists three people named Booth in its index :- Booth, Charles 1891 Booth, J W 1865 Booth, William 1865, 1878 J W Booth assassin William Booth founder of the Salvation Army Charles Booth Life and Labour of the People in London The code could also be pointing at the years 1865, 1878, 1891. 1865 Abraham Lincoln assassinated. Oct 18th Lord Palmerston dies and Lord John Russell becomes Prime Minister. ( another will die ) Dec 10th Leopold I of Belgium dies. 1878 Swan's carbon filament lamp ( lightbulb ) Earliest electric street lighting in London ( electricity ) 1891 O Wilde, The Picture of Dorian Gray ( mentioned in the 1977 film ' Oh, God ! ' ) Now looking for a connection, the words ' delayed ' and ' Libya ' both include the letters ' l ', ' a ' and ' y '. delayed anagram lay deed times 3 Libya anagram lay bi times 3 The Little Oxford Dictionary lists the word ' deed ' on page 141. The code could be pointing to words close to 'deed' in the dictionary. Pages 140 and 141 include the words decipher, declassify, decode, decoy, deduce and deep. The name ' Bibi ' is in the code. Times six would round up the numbers to give ' Bibi ' three times. The word 'computer' appears six times in the plain text of the Bible, hidden within the Hebrew word for ' thought '. ( The Bible Code p.69 ) Booth Libya delayed th e the B ib l e Bible oo L Loo ya d ay d day day ( See ' Watergate ' ) Tut Syria's allies are named : ' Persia ' and ' Phut ' , countries that are now called Iran and Libya. ( The Bible Code p.103 ) Libya Phut t Libya Phut u Libya Phut t Nu ( Nut ) ' Tunnel ' is encoded with the same skip sequence as ' Holocaust of Israel ', running parallel to it from Exodus 17 : 2 to Numbers 14 : 36 ( The Bible Code p. 193 ) tunnel anagram nut nel Nu ( or Nut ) was an Egyptian sky goddess Numbers 14 : 36 1436 1436 AD Fei Hsin, Hsing-cha-sheng-Ian ( Description of the Star Raft; eye-witness account of Cheng Ho's voyages ) Moon ( mun ) ' Man on Moon ' is encoded from Numbers 19 : 20 to Numbers 27 : 1. 'Spaceship' crosses it, encoded in Numbers 22 : 2 ( The Bible Code p.182 ) A link between Nu and moon Tunnel Exodus 17 : 2 17 2 in reverse 271 27 : 1 Man on Moon Numbers 27 : 1 Man on Moon Numbers 19 : 20 Numbers 22 : 25 add the chapter numbers together 19 and 22 giving 1922. 1922 AD ( 4th Nov ) Howard Carter, supported by Lord Carnarvon, discovers the tomb of Pharaoh Tutankhamun at Luxor, the only ancient Egyptian Pharaoh's tomb discovered complete with grave goods. Aug 22nd Michael Collins, prime minister of the Irish provisional government, killed by Republican ambush in west Cork. ' It will be after the death of the Prime Minister ' ( The Bible Code p.184 ) This is referring to the discovery of Tutankhamun's grave not a Third World War. ' The next war' encoded below 'It will be after....' refers to a war that is already over. Tutankhamun anagram Tu tankha mun tanakh Tu mun Tanakh ' Bible code ' is encoded again from Deuteronomy 12 : 11 to Deuteronomy 12 : 17. The Hebrew word used here for ' Bible ' is ' Tanakh ' which means the entire Old Testament. ( The Bible Code p.194 ) Deuteronomy 12 : 11 Deuteronomy 12 : 17 Adding both chapters together 12 : 12 ' Sealed before God ' appears in Deuteronomy 12 : 12 ( The Bible Code p.194 ) switching chapter and verse numbers The position of the skip sequence code of ' Shoemaker-Levy ' is very interesting. ' Shoemaker-Levy ', the name of the comet that struck Jupiter, is encoded starting at Genesis 19 : 38 and ending at Genesis 38 : 19. ( The Bible Code p.182 ) The chapter and verse numbers of the start of the encoding, when switched give the ending position of the encoding, ie chapter and verse in reverse. The first chapter number is half the numerical value of the first verse number, this also highlights other chapter and verse numbers that have a simple numeric relationship. ' It was made by computer' is encoded in Exodus 32 : 16 - 17. I believe the Shoemaker-Levy code is telling us to switch some of the chapter and verse numbers before converting to a Gregorian year. ' Shoemaker-Levy ' to Genesis 38 : 19 switch 38 : 19 1938 AD Adolf Hitler annexes the Sudetenland, Munich conference. Kristallnacht ( ' Crystal Night ' ) Jewish houses, synagogues and schools burn down. ( fire ) Frank Lloyd Wright, Taliesin West, Phoenix Arizona, USA. ( Wright ) ' Japan ' appears in Leviticus 14 : 18 ( The Bible Code p.191 ) switch 14 : 18 1814 1814 AD April 11th Napoleon abdicates unconditionally and is banished to Elba. ( ' Napoleon ' and ' Elba ' are encoded , The Bible Code p.31 ) ' Asteroid ' crosses ' dinosaur ' , encoded in Deuteronomy 24 : 19 -21 switch 24 : 19 ( The Bible Code p.191 ) 1924 1924 AD Jan 21st death of Soviet leader Lenin Jan 21st in China, Congress of the Guomindang. ( in China ) June 10th Matteotti body found ( murdered ) de Broglie wave theory - particles can also act as waves. ' His name is Timothy ' is encoded in Genesis 37 : 12 to Genesis 37 : 19 switch 37 : 19 ( The Bible Code p.188 ) 1937 1937 AD May 6th the giant German Airship Hindenburg explodes ( fire ) July 7th in China, incident at Marco Polo Bridge ( in China ) ' Atomic weapon ' is encoded once in the Book of Isaiah, from Isaiah 32 : 1 to 65 : 18. ' Jerusalem ' and ' scroll ' and ' he opened it ' all appear in the hidden text of the last verse, Isaiah 65 : 18. In fact, they overlap each other. .....the encoding of 'atomic weapon ' is clearly intentional. But in modern Hebrew it would usually be spelled with one more letter. ( The Bible Code p.189 ) Isaiah 32 : 1 switch 32 : 1 132 132 AD In China, Zhang Heng develops the first seismograph for indicating the position of an earthquake centre. ( earthquake ) 32 : 1 switched to 1 : 32 leads to the thought about 123 and looking at the various combinations of 65 : 18 switch 65 : 18 1865 1865 AD Abraham Lincoln assassinated by J W Booth. ' Booth ' is highlighted by being in triplicate in the code. This grouping of code is has been highlighted by the words overlapping each other with a common ' M ' . One of the phrases is ' he opened it '. There is thus a link between the two highlighted decoding methods. various combinations of 1 8 6 5 1568 AD 1586 AD 1856AD 1568 AD March 23th The Treaty of Longjumean ends the Second War of Religion. ( war ) June 2nd Counts Egmont and Hoorn executed Nov Slaughter of the Moorish population. ( slaughter ) Dec Three Spanish treasure ships driven by storm into Plymouth. John Skelton, Works...... 1586 AD July 17th Sir Francis Walsingham succeeds in unravelling the Babington Plot. July 21th Thomas Cavendish leaves Plymouth on a voyage of circumnavigation, west to east. 1856 AD Britain annexes Oudh. ( annexed ) April 16th Declaration of Paris recognizes principle of 'free ships , free goods '. Oct 8th Arrow Incident provokes second Anglo-Chinese War. ( war ) Richard Burton and John Speke set out to find the source of the Nile. There are links here 1568 AD Three ships into Plymouth 1586 AD From Plymouth on a voyage 1856 AD free ships Arrow Incident ships flying British flag .....' President ' is Numbers 25 : 18 switch 25 : 18 ( The Bible Code p.187 ) 1825 1825 AD Joe Smith, founder of Mormons, claims he had his vision. Comte de St.-Simon, Nouveau Christianisme. In England, George Stephenson builds the first public railway. I Promessi Sposi, Alessandro Manzoni. Boris Godunov, Aleksandr Pushkin. ' Swift ' is encoded from Leviticus 15 : 19 to Leviticus 23 : 29. The year the comet is predicted to return, 2126, is encoded in Leviticus 24 : 5. ( The Bible Code p.191 ) switch 15 : 19 1915 1915 AD Albert Einstein in Germany proposes his general theory of relativity which explains the origin of gravity. ( Einstein ) April 22nd the Western Front,Germans use poison gas for the first time. ( horror ) April 26th secret Treaty of London. Leviticus 15 : 19 Leviticus 23 : 29 combining the chapter numbers 15 and 23 1523 AD Titian, Bacchus and Ariadne. Keyboard music printed in Italy with right- and left-hand staves and bar lines. combining the verse numbers 19 and 29. 1929 AD Oct 24th Wall Street Crash ( economic collapse ) Virginia Woolf, A Room of One's Own. The Listener issued in Britain. ' Comet ' is encoded from Leviticus 18 : 20 to Deuteronomy 27 : 1. Leviticus 18 : 20 ( The Bible Code p.192 ) 1820 1820 AD Internal Evidence for the Truth of Revealed Religion, Thomas Erskine. combining the chapter numbers 18 and 27 1827 1827 AD John Darby secedes from Church of England to found Plymouth Brethren. Joseph Niepce produces photographs. The year 2012 also appears with ' comet ' , in Deuteronomy 1 : 4. ' Earth annihilated ' appears just above in Exodus 34:10. But with 2012, also in the hidden text of Deuteronomy 1 : 4 are the words ' It will be crumbled, I will tear it to pieces '. switch 34 : 10 1034 1034 AD March 15th death of Mieszko of Poland. note. March 15th = the Ides of March Soothsayer Beware the Ides of March. Caesar He is a dreamer. Let us leave him now. Pass. Exeunt Julius Caesar Act 1 Scene 2 verse 23 William Shakespeare .......for on that day he should be in great danger. ( Earth annihilated ) ' Great earthquake ' is encoded from Exodus 39 : 21 to Deuteronomy 18 : 17. switch 18 : 17 ( The Bible Code p.190 ) 1718 AD Chinese troops are annihilated by the Western Mongols. ( annihilated ) Spain founds Pensacola, Florida. July 21 Peace of Passarowitz. July 31st ( or Aug 11th ) Spain defeated off Cape Passaro. ' Har Megiddo ' is encoded from Genesis 44 : 4 to Exodus 10 : 16. switch 10 : 16 ( The Bible Code p.190 ) 1610 1610 AD Galileo observes Jupiter's satellites. ( Jupiter ) William Shakespeare, Cymbeline ; A Winter's Tale ; The Tempest. ( Shakespeare ) ' Zedek ' ( Jupiter ) is encoded in Isaiah 26 : 16. ( The Bible Code p.182 ) The date the comet struck the planet, ' 8th Av ' in Isaiah 26 : 20. switch 26 : 16 1626 AD Count Mansfeld defeated at the Bridge of Dessau. combining the verse numbers 16 and 20. 1620 AD Sept. Pilgrim Fathers leave Plymouth in the Mayflower. Neptune and Triton, G. Bernini. ' Watergate ' is encoded from Genesis 28 : 21 to Numbers 19 : 18. ( The Bible Code p.182 ) switch 19 : 18 1819 1819 AD Aug 16th ' Peterloo ' Massacre takes place. Watergate to Peterloo hence Waterloo delayed Libya Booth the Bible Loo day day Loo day day the Bible Aug 16 Peterloo 16 16 16 : 16 Jun 18 Waterloo 18 18 18 : 18 Revelation 16 : 16 Armageddon Revelation 18 : 18 A sea port ' Watergate ' Numbers 19 : 18 1918 1918 AD Oct 30th Allies sign armistice with Turkey on the warship Agamemnon at Mudros. We are making a New World , Paul Nash. The Twelve , Alexander Blok. ' For everyone, the great terror : fire earthquake ' encoded in Deuteronomy 34 : 12. switch 34 : 12 ( The Bible Code p.190 ) 1234 1234 AD al-Mustansiryah University, Baghdad founded. Just above 1234 AD 1233 AD The Complete Book of Chronicles ; abridges al-Tabari's work ( 923 ) and continues Arab history to 1231. The year 2113 is encoded from Deuteronomy 29 : 24 to Deuteronomy 33 : 14. switch 2113 1321 in reverse 1231 Arab history to 1231 ' China ' appears in Numbers 33 : 12 with ' great earthquake ' . switch 1233 ( The Bible Code p.191 ) 1233 AD See above. Both ' fire, earthquake ' and ' the big one ' appear in the hidden text of Deuteronomy 10 :21. ( The Bible Code p.191 ) Just above 1021 AD 1020 AD The Book of Kings ; Persia's national epic. ' Edison ' is encoded from Numbers 14 : 19 to Numbers 17 : 19. (The Bible Code p.183 ) 17 : 19 1719 1719 AD The American Mercury is issued in Philadelphia. ( Mercury = messenger ) switch 14 : 19 1914 1914 AD June 28th Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his wife are assassinate at Sarajevo in Bosnia by Gavrilo Princip. ( assassination ) The Planets, Gustav Holst Numbers 17 : 19 switch 1917 AD June 14th American Expeditionary Force, commanded by General John J Pershing, arrives in France. ( missile ie Pershing ) ' Ruby ' is encoded in Deuteronomy 2 : 8 with ' Oswald ' and the words ' he will kill the assassin ', which appear in Numbers 35 : 19. ( The Bible Code p.188 ) switch 35 : 19 1935 1935 AD The 35-mm ' Kodachrome ' film devised. Credo , Karl Barth. Murder in the Cathedral , T S Eliot. Looking up Lee Harvey Oswald in the Huchinson Chronology of World History,Compact Edition the years 1963 and 1964 are present. The assassination of President Kennedy was on Nov 22nd 1963. 1964 AD Oct 16th China explodes an atomic bomb. ( atomic weapon ) Nov 3rd US elections President Johnson has a sweeping victory over Barry Goldwater. The Warren Report into the assassination of President Kennedy. ( July 31st ) Ranger 7, launched from Cape Kennedy, succeeds in obtaining close-up photographs of the Moon's surface before crashing. ( spaceship ) Film Doctor Strangelove ( director, Stanley Kubrick ) Another Oswald in history was Oswald Mosley. In the history book index he is listed with the years 1931, 1932, 1934 and 1936. Numbers 35 : 19 1935 is between the years Oswald Mosley is indexed with. ' President Kennedy ' is encoded once in the Bible, from Genesis 34 : 19 to Genesis 50 :4. ( The Bible Code p.187 ) switch 34 : 19 1934 1934 AD June 8th Oswald Mosley addresses mass meeting of Fascists, London ( address ) June 29th The ' Night of the Long Knives' in Germany. ( Nazi ) A Study of History , Arnold Toynbee. ..Macbeth is also encoded starting in the same verse of the Bible, Leviticus 3 : 13, and ending in Leviticus 7 : 29 ( The Bible Code p.183 ) 313 AD Constantine defeats Licinius in Pannonia. The Edit of Milan. add a 1, 1313 1313 AD The invention of spectacles. Leviticus 3 : 13 switch 3 : 13 133 AD no entry for this year but just above 132 AD Simeon Bar-Cochba leads the Jews in revolt. In China, Zhang Heng develops the first seismograph for indicating the position of an earthquake centre. ( earthquake ) Leviticus 7 : 29 7 29 add a 1, 1729 1729 AD John Wood, Queen's Square, Bath Jonathan Swift, A Modest Proposal J S Bach, St. Matthew Passion ( oratorio ) Macbeth anagram bath Mec Not many single words in the code contain all four letters that spell Bath.The name Bath appears in the full code quite a lot. Contents Introduction Prime Minister Netanyahu Third / World War World War Triplicate delayed Libya Booth ( anagram the Bible Loo day day ) Tut Nu ( Nut ) Moon ( mun ) Tutankhamun Tanakh switching chapter and verse numbers Shoemaker-Levy Japan Asteroid His name is Timothy Atomic weapon ( switch and other variations ) President Swift Comet Earth annihilated Great earthquake Har Megiddo Zedek ( Jupiter ) Watergate For everyone, the great terror China fire earthquake the big one Edison Ruby Oswald President Kennedy Macbeth Summary Atomic weapon --> 132 AD in China --> Oswald --> --> 1964 China explodes atomic bomb and film Dr Strangelove Atomic weapon --> 65 : 18 Watergate --> 1819 Peterloo + triplicate code --> Waterloo --> -->Revelation Armageddon A sea port Watergate --> 1918 Agamemnon at Mudros 65 : 18 in reverse 81 56 add a 1 181 56 --> 1815 6 Battle of Waterloo 18th June ( sixth month ) 1815 AD. The Final Battle, Revelation is being associated with the Battle of Waterloo. In 1815 Napoleon was the rider of the white horse. ( See Revelation ) Is there another rider of a white horse ? As the number 6 is in the code ie. 1815 6 , this number is being associated with The Final Battle referred to in The Revelation to John. Is this linked to the number of the beast 666 or vice versa ? Maybe both are part of the code. As with some chapter and verse numbers 666 , add a 1 1666 1666 AD The Great Plague of London The Great Fire of London Sir Issac Newton calculates the moon's orbit. Twist the middle 6 by 180 degrees In 1696 AD Re-coinage of British silver money is carried out under John Locke and Sir Isaac Newton. code unlocked For everyone a bridge the code
Re: software disks <b>Lyndale</b>, I thought your point about the code containing software programs was quite intriguing. Having taken a few perusals of that Bible Code book that <b>Daniel</b> makes reference to, I've often wondered what would happen should some of that 'order' be transliterated into some kind of a binary system that's recognizable as computer language. It seems entirely possible. I don't really care if some consider it bogus, it would still be rather interesting to see what might happen. Codes intrigue me, whether intentional or otherwise. Hopefully, you'll give us some more information rather than not discussing it further.
Re: Re: Daniel I have been installing and programming computer for almost 15 years, and frankly, I have no idea what you're talking about.
Drosnins book was the biggest piece of horseshit I have ever read. That book had no redeeming value, it was just a series of coincidences (sp.?) that can be found in the Hebrew translation of ANY book, paired with a bad story in which Drosnin tried to make himself the protaganist, when he was really nothing but a third party observer.
Aaaaaarrrrgggghhhh! Lyndale, It is right for you to be cautious - the troll-hunters have picked up your scent; they're closing in for the kill. It won't be long now... Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! This "cloak-and-dagger" routine of yours is getting stale, Lyndale. Emerald
Corp, I agree with your point that Drosnin was nothing but a third party observer who sensationalized the findings of Torah scholars, mathematicians and computer scientists. Obviously he was riding on the coattails of others for the purpose of making a name for <i>himself</i>, as well as fattening his own bank account. This had the effect of cheapening the entire theory so that most people will dismiss it out of hand. There are much better books than Drosnin's if one wants to examine more than just the hype behind the Torah codes. I've read several, but my personal favorite is "Cracking the Bible Code", by Jeffrey Satinover, M.D. Although I don't necessarily agree with all of the author's conclusions, I would still highly recommend this book to anyone who is interested in further exploration of this subject (which I must admit that I find fascinating, myself). Emerald
Re: Re: Aaaaaarrrrgggghhhh! Lyndale, Uh, no. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! I was responding sarcastically to all the drama you like to insert in your posts. You know, comments like, "I will not discuss this further", as if you're being watched by some evil underworld group who will destroy you should you reveal too much of what you are so fond of implying that you know. That's what I mean by "cloak-and-dagger" routine. It's silly and childish - knock it off already. Oh yeah, and I was also suggesting that you are a troll. Just out of curiosity, is English your first language? I guess you're not counting the comments you made about Cris and myself being under demonic influence? I don't believe that any of my remarks to you have been hateful. At least, I have never intended any of my comments to be hateful - I'm sorry if you are such a sensitive soul that that's how you see it. Sarcastic? Okay, maybe a little bit - but hateful? Not even close. No, not everyone is doing those things, Lyndale. You have certainly done those things, but most of us are simply responding honestly to what we read. This is a debate forum, and that's what most of us are here to do. If you don't like the heat, then I suggest you get out of the roasting pan. Emerald
Emerald It seems that with some, their first assertion becomes wholly a priori, and everyone reacting to that first assertion is actually enacting some inner madness manifest as hatred toward apparently simple ideas. A great example of this is detailed by the following hypothetical: * Mr L asserts that a photograph contains evidence of demons. * Mr X notes that, in addition to asserting demons, Mr L has also confessed to tampering with the observational process. * Mr X wonders if that altered observational process might be the cause of the phenomenon perceived as demonic evidence. * Mr L refuses to discuss the alterations to the observational process, because of commercial concerns. * Mr L further asserts that the demons have taken control of Mr X * Thus, Mr L asserts that: 1) A photograph contains demons; 2) That Mr X is under possession of those demons; 3) That the evidence of Mr X's possession is twofold--A) X's disbelief or doubt is evidence of demonic possession, and B) The photographs Mr X disbelieves or doubts are proof of the demons that possess him. Emerald, you're just so mean. I mean, it's all right here, clear as day. Sure the dots don't connect, and the pieces don't fit together well, but they don't have to, and if you weren't possessed by demons, you'd see that, you silly, evil person you. Never mind that back-engineering existing, proprietary technology is not a viable commercial product; this experiment of unseen method and undemonstrated result conclusively proves that you're among the Legion of Doom. Wait a minute ... am I saying this with a straight face? Oh, heaven forgive me ... please, Emerald. I didn't mean it, honest. I think the Devil made me say it. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! thanx, Tiassa Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Aaah, nostalgia .... Lyndale, Twisted Sister: "I'll Never Grow Up Now" (Under the Blade) http://www.acc.umu.se/~adrian/twistedsister/under-the-blade.html#9 --Tiassa Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
RE : Deguised part of Bible code Part 1 of post The opportunity for the Bible code to include code in puzzle clue and anagram form was there. There are signs. Some of the code is brief in describing events and some events are described using more words than are needed. Examples The Bible Code p. 19 & 182 Watergate Who is he ? President but he was kicked out The Bible Code p. 88 & 188 His name is Timothy McVeigh I believe the words of the code here have been chosen so that they can also be used thus : Scroll He opened it Who is he ? His name is ..................... Part 2 of post who is he ? president but he was kicked out o s e p B h h p B e s o who is he ? president but he was kicked out Scroll He opened it Who is he ? His name is Joseph B............ As reader of this post you have options i) Believing all I have written This would not be logical ii) Keeping an open mind - ' It's possible ' This would be logical iii) Disbelieving what I have written This would not be logical If you disbelieve part 2 of the post this does not mean you have to automatically disbelieve part 1 of the post.
Re: Aaah, nostalgia .... Tiassa, Thanks for the inspiration. I'd also like to contribute some lyrics from a song performed by a fellow she-demon: <font color="blue"><b>"Girls Just Want to Have Fun" Performed by: Cyndi Lauper Written by: Robert Hazard</b> <i>I come home in the morning light my mother says when you gonna live your life right oh mother dear we're not the fortunate ones and girls just want to have fun oh girls just want to have fun the phone rings in the middle of the night my father yells what you gonna do with your life oh daddy dear you know you're still number one but girls they want to have fun oh girls just want to have-- that's all they really want some fun when the working day is done girls-- they want to have fun oh girls just want to have fun some boys take a beautiful girl and hide her away from the rest of the world I want to be the one to walk in the sun oh girls they want to have fun oh girls just want to have that's all they really want some fun when the working day is done girls--they want to have fun oh girls just want to have fun, they want to have fun, they want to have fun...</i></font> Emerald Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Re: Emerald Tiassa, Yeah, I'd say that kind of evidence would fly in a court of law - if the trial was being held in say, Salem, and the year was, oh, 1692, for example. Just doing what the Master orders. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Not to worry, Tiassa - I knew that bulge in your cheek was your tongue all along. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Emerald
RE Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!esguised part of Bible code Some of the Bible code is concise and brief eg. Wright Brothers Airplane Edison Electricity Lightbulb other code is not Watergate Nixon Who is he ? President but he was kicked out. Shakespeare Hamlet Macbeth presented on stage The code uses both names of the planet Jupiter, Jupiter and Zedek. Maybe an extra ' z' or ' k ' was needed for a part of the Bible code we have not seen yet ie.an anagram or puzzle. Rembrandt Dutch painter Picasso the artist Why is one described as a painter and the other an artist ? Shakespeare Hamlet Macbeth presented on stage Why are two plays mentioned when with the great artists and musicians none of their work was named ( The Bible code page 31) ? Why is ' presented on stage ' included ? Hamlet was presented on stage in 1603 AD Macbeth was presented on stage in 1605 AD The code could be pointing to the year inbetween the two plays encoded, ie.1604 AD. In 1604 AD a supernova observable by the naked eye occurred. The next supernova observable by the naked eye ( ie without a telescope ) was not until 1987 AD, over 300 years later, hence not a common occurrence. also in 1604 AD Johannes Kepler publishes Optics, which describes how the eye focuses light. The supernova could be acting as a marker indicating there is code here and the code is not just pointing to the year inbetween the two plays Hamlet and Macbeth but also the years inbetween the other Shakespearean plays being presented on stage. 1605 AD Macbeth 1606 AD 1607 AD 1608 AD King Lear, Coriolanus. 1609 AD 1610 AD Cymbeline ; A Winter's Tale ; The Tempest. The books published in these years were 1606 AD Joseph Scaliger, Thesaurus Temporum 1607 AD Ben Jonson, The Fox Cyril Tourneur, The Revenger's Tragedy Honore D ' Urfe, Astee, part 1 ( completed by 1627 by Baro ) 1609 AD Johann Kepler, De Motibus Stella Martis G de la Vega, History of the Conquest of Peru Edison Lightbulb Electricity Lightbulb 1880 AD Edison and Swan independently make the first practical electric light. Electricity 1882 AD Edison's generating station at Pearl Street, NY and first hydro-electric plant at Appleton, Wisconsin. The year inbetween these two years the code could be highlighting is 1881 AD. 1881 AD Louis Pasteur attenuates anthrax virus to produce a vaccine. ( anthrax = horror ) Some parts of the code point to years in history and some of the encoded phrases of the code act like markers. A multi-layered code. Lyndale When you say software disks do you mean of a form similar to MSDOS format ie. File Allocation Table Data area etc. ? Daktaklakpak Analysis of the position of the Bible code being part of the code and other code such as anagrams etc. within the words should be included in the statistical analysis of the Bible code and could totally varify the Bible code scientifically. Who cares if it matches the past well? Anyone worried that the Bible code predicts a Third World War etc. Corp. Hudson Disquised Code in Drosnin's code sent 15 / 5 / 2001 10:33pm your post sent 16 / 5 / 2001 4 :06am Less than 6 hours to analysis my work and include it in your new assessment of Michael Drosnin's book.
Re: RE Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!esguised part of Bible code Our genetic make up limit our ability to foresee events that will happen in the next 2 or more generations. In another words, we generally don't care stuff that will happen for our grand grand children. Our mind is not designed to comprehend that kind of information/imagination. So the world war prediction should better be quick. BTW, if by the date there is no WWIII, you could interpret it as "we prevented it because we knew it." If it happens, you could say "I told you." So the prediction is generally BS anyway.
Re:daktaklakpak ' World War ' was encoded with ( but not crossing ) ' in 5760 ' and ' in 5766 ', ie. the years 2000 and 2006. ( The Bible Code p.94 & p.189 ) I believe the Bible code and other code is amazingly more extensive than many people believe to date, note ' He encoded the Torah, and more '. God could have placed an advanced numerical code in astronomical data. This part of The Code could include or point to an aids cure, note the Bibledecoder website / Research pages claims that the following code has been found : Aids / cure / space As with the basic part of an operating system, once loaded into memory it can then load in more complex code, so to with a code from God. A Bible code that includes use of other books ( including Nostradamus ) could provide more complex decoding techniques, new code markers etc. The number 666 could already be a code marker. Note. Aphelion Distance( A.U ) of the planet Mars is 1.666. About myself I have a science background , electrical and electronic engineering and believe my scientific analysis skills are good.
Note .... Of the OS analogy, I'll leave out questions of firmware and networking. Those can come later, if necessary. Rather, though, it seems that you're asserting that God's knowledge is so complete that he knew in advance what we would call a certain distance, and what that distance would be. An astronomical unit is a relevant, yet still arbitrary declaration of distance. For the Martian aphelion to be significant, there must therefore be a relation between actual distance and all the labels we've applied to those distances until we figured the distance from Sol to Terra and called it an AU. I have no objection with something that has Perfect Knowledge having this particular knowledge. This is part of that perfection. But for God's mysterious ways to be so subtly intentional, and apparently so blatant that I'm surprised we need a Bible, much less a Bible code, to tell us these things, really does punch a hole in much of the modern theology and resultant faith constructions of Christianity, past or present. Think about it: God knows full well what a certain distance is, and that humans will find it significant; furthermore, God devises his universe so that this distance will act as a theological signpost on the road to deliverance. And this is where I hit the curious contradictions of God. In another post I mentioned those of faith who would suspend your civil rights at the ballot box in an act of Christian love, yet would walk by an outstretched, hungry hand on the street without a blink of conscience. What's more important to God, then? That Mars is a signpost to redemption, or that we treat the least of our brethren--and therefore God itself--properly? It's a very exacting Universe, with much design effort, if one merely intends base, sloppy execution. The only hidden messages in the Bible would be carefully placed by Hebrew scribes in the OT; scholars--particularly mathematicians--would have located these by now because computers can calculate finite sums quickly enough. And there's another issue with this Bible code: as I recall, there are 22 consonants with four final consonants in the Hebrew alphabet. How many characters are employed in the telling of the OT? How many prophetic words have been extracted? (W) What is that ratio, compared to the potential? (P) How many equations, permutations, algorithms, &c. can you lay over the text before you run out of combinations of words? (E) It would seem to me that you're running an exponential figure here that reflects W/P as a ratio related to E. I am, admittedly, having difficulty writing this equation. (I'm not sure all factors have been accounted yet.) What I'm after here is that I'm not sure the extraction of anything but a coherent discourse from God will suffice to demonstrate the authenticity of what appears to be theological fancy. 26 letters repeated in a finite number of combinations, the total number of letters in the Old Testament, and the total number of equations you can ask a computer to scan by. If they pull a hundred-thousand suspect words from the Judaic Junior Jumble of OT codes, they still have achieved a minute fraction of the potential of the whole. Consider this: If I dump three cans of alphabet soup into a pot, stick my spoon in (for this probability can be described by much better mathematicians than I) and, in one spoonful, receive the word "Jesus", have I enjoyed a miracle or witnessed a demonstration of probability? What is the difference of probability, then, that I would pull out the five characters spelling, "Joint"? (Yes, I realize that you must account for one repeated letter; it changes the probability minutely compared to the greater illustration.) If you extract "Jesus loves me" from textual code, you have achieved no greater miracle than if you extract "Xyznz amgyz jy". The probability of finding a string of relevant characters is exactly equal to the probability of finding a string of unintelligible nonsense; until you start tweaking the probability calculations and exscinding data in order to cause a favorable outcome. I am always curious about those people of faith who dedicate their careers to being pseudo-scientists in order to achieve a measure of fame on behalf of a God they choose to disrespect by making such trivialities of the faith. The search for empowerment through Bible code is a desperate attempt to bolster the faithfuls' perspective of the credibility of their faith. Unfortunately, it's pointing out to the rest of the world just how anemic that credibility is. And all that from the Martian aphelion. If science stumbles onto God, believe me, we'd all hear about it. If pseudo-science, seeking God, finds God, well, that's expected, and merely the fulfillment of a fantasy with greater fantasy. I will, however, tell the next person that asks me for money on the street to take comfort, for Jesus says that the cure for AIDS is coming from Stavromula Beta. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! thanx, Tiassa Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Re: Re:daktaklakpak You science background should tell you that 1.666AU is just a number that easy for normal human to remember. It's not the exact distance. And Mars orbit is not a perfect circle. How could you so sure that 1.666 is not 1.6661 or 1.666233512 or even 1.6658324?
I myself have also researched the bible code. I have the book and have pretty much read it. I also had the bible code on my computer at one stage, but couldn't really understand it,since I don't know ancient Hebrew. I myself believe the bible code to be incorrect. First of all, lets look at the obvious contradictions. Over ten times in the bible code it says Jesus is the messiah. Also, it says, over ten times Jesus is not the messiah. In Drosnins book, he only states the code Jesus is the messiah. The truth can not contradict. Now if Drosnin actually believed in the bible code, as according to his book he would be Christian. However, he is a new age. He basically used this code as stated before for his own pocket, not for the working of God's glory. Also, Drosnin made a gamble with another person (I forget who) that if he could find these codes in Moby Dick he would concede that the bible code is not true. Guess what, Drosnin lost the bet. Even Moby Dick proclaims that Jesus is and is not the messiah. Daniel Remember, the truth can not contradict. Also, Tiassa, what do you mean at the ballot box. I've heard you say that but never really been sure what ballot box means. Prehaps this could be explored in another topic?
re : disguised part of the Bible code The question is : - " Is the code there or not ? " The existance of a code can be examined scientifically. The new work I have submitted needs to be analysied scientifically. It would be bad science to predict the outcome of that investigation by including views about the nature of God or the apparent level of some believers' understanding of the Christian philosophy. If the code is there ( I believe it is ) then God thought the reason for its existance was good enough. Maybe the code exists because someone ( the encoder ) asked for a code, " ask and you shall receive ". The scientific verification of a much larger Bible code that includes anagrams, puzzle clues, skip sequence code within some of the skip sequence code and pointers to code elsewhere would overshaddow the probability debate about extraction of skip sequence code from the Hebrew version of the Torah / Bible. I believe we live in a universe with a built-in code, ie the physical universe designed with the code incorporated. - Kepler's Laws - Chemical elements ie. electronic configurations the Periodic table - radio frequencies The distance between the Earth and the Sun the number 92 ia a major number in The Code. Michael Drosnin's book ' The Bible Code ' was published in 1997. The discovery and verification this year of a larger code which - proves God exists - proves Christianity is the true faith - and more would be of great benefit to the human race making the World a more caring place and hopefully helping people before they become homeless or in despair. Many people have not been brought up with Christianity and for them a 100% verified code would help them. At present I am working full-time on the code, I am in a financial position to do this. I do not charge and do not intend to charge for my work. I have nearly completed a book about life-skills which I intend to make available free-of-charge. This book may bring some fame or attention so I am in the position that I am probably delaying fame for the Bible code. If the code is there ( and I believe it is ) how can looking for the code be disrespectful to God. quote " If science stumbles onto God, believe me, we'd all hear about it. " The internet may be the first place that someone who has found something places their work. The time between this and professional codebreakers evaluating the work could be dependent on the initial readers of that work. So if anyone reading this wishes to draw my work to the attention of scientists / codebreakers I would greatly appreciate it. Daktaklakpak God knows the future. God knows possible knock-on effects on the future. There is a concept of time that we do not understand yet. God knows the detail of what we see as the future as if it has already happened. God knew which number would be used. As long as the number works as a marker that is what matters, whether there are digits after the number 666 or even if the number had to be rounded up does not stop it working as a marker. Generally code for a computer needs to be precise. A code that transmits information to people just needs to do that job, sometimes it does not have to be precise or pretty. Corp. Hudson My response to your reply was not made with any ill-feeling, I hope it did not come across that way. I found your comments amusing. Deadwood Michael Drosnin did not consider God may have put code in the book ' Moby Dick ' . The writer of Moby Dick working under God's influence. Michael Drosnin is a reporter not a scientist. Some of what he may say may not be accurate but that would not mean the code in his book is not. Don't be put off easily there may be good reasons to keep people guessing. Have you ever considered that the encoder is also a wind-up artist? I am working on line so may give a fuller reply later. I submitted a thread called ' Joseph the encoder ' started 7th March 2001. I stand by everything I wrote in those posts. Please try to take apart the theory if you can. In debate people's views get questioned. What I write is not intended to upset anyone. True Christianity is about love and care for one another.