the Syria Accountability Act

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  1. otheadp Banned Banned

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    *Syria has offices of terrorist groups bombing civilians in israel, which it alleges it closed, and were strictly press offices as opposed to "martyrdom operation planning" offices.

    *Syria has [allegedly] terrorist training sites on its territory which it lets operate freely

    *Syria is funding and diverting weapons / logistics to Hezbollah. A group which besides trying to destroy one of US's allies is a group that 20 years ago killed 250 American GIs.

    *Syria is occupying Lebanon with 20,000 troops and has refused to get outta there

    *Syria was sending fighters to Iraq, fighters which Syria knew intended to kill US troops. Syria also sent nite goggles and other equipment to US's enemies during operation Iraqi Freedom.

    *Syria [allegedly] provided safety for fleeing officials from the former Iraqi regime.

    *Syria is producing / trying to produce WMDs even though it talks about a "WMD free middle east"

    did i forget anything?
    personally, i believe every alleged point.
    was the US right to pass the Syria Accountability Act?
    what do you think Syria would do? now that Bush also practically gave a green light to Israel to strike at terrorist bases inside Syria?
     
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  3. nico Banned Banned

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    Amazing

    Syria has offices of terrorist groups bombing civilians in israel

    Israel maintains a air force who on 2 seperate occasions have attacked Syria in 1967, and 2003 without any act of aggression placed against her. Both times they bombed Syria.

    *Syria is occupying Lebanon with 20,000 troops and has refused to get outta there


    Israel is occupying the Golan and the Galiee with a forced occupation and even colonization of these territories which are still recognized as Syrian territory. Whose not getting out of where?

    *Syria was sending fighters to Iraq, fighters which Syria knew intended to kill US troops. Syria also sent nite goggles and other equipment to US's enemies during operation Iraqi Freedom.


    The Russians I believe were the ones who sent them those night goggles, and Syria was doing nothing different then the US was doing in Iraq. Illegally operating in a foreign nation.

    *Syria [allegedly] provided safety for fleeing officials from the former Iraqi regime.


    was it not the UAE who offered Saddam refuge?

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    *Syria is producing / trying to produce WMDs even though it talks about a "WMD free middle east"


    In order for there to be a "WMD free middle east" there has to be a actual wiling partner... priniciply Israel, who maintains the worlds 6th largest nuke force with IRBM's. So whom is the threat?

    did i forget anything?


    Yes rational thinking.

    was the US right to pass the Syria Accountability Act?


    The US can do what it wants, but as long as it is based on hypocracy it's moot.

    what do you think Syria would do? now that Bush also practically gave a green light to Israel to strike at terrorist bases inside Syria?

    What should Syria do? If she is like a rabid dog and in the corner with IAF attacking her... I would accept any weapon system to be used against Israel.
     
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  5. otheadp Banned Banned

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    Israel maintains a air force who on 2 seperate occasions have attacked Syria in 1967, and 2003 without any act of aggression placed against her. Both times they bombed Syria.

    * an air force is a conventional arsenal which each sovereign nation has the right as a nation to posses.
    * the day israelis send someone to bomb busses in Damasqus, that's when your point will become valid.
    * without any aggression?

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    what the fuck is wrong with you?
    * stop comparing Syria's actions to Israel's actions

    Israel is occupying the Golan and the Galiee with a forced occupation and even colonization of these territories which are still recognized as Syrian territory. Whose not getting out of where?
    The Galil was never "syrian territory". only the golan is in question. syrians lost a war which they initiated, tough fuckin luck. should've thought about it before attacking. at any rate, the golan is a subject of peace negotiations. as for lebanon, it suffers a military occupation. it has literaly no gov't. they're syria's proxy. an entirely different kind of occupation.
    *again, stop comparing Syria to Israel (you are so obsessed with Israel... the topic here is SYRIA)

    The Russians I believe were the ones who sent them those night goggles, and Syria was doing nothing different then the US was doing in Iraq. Illegally operating in a foreign nation.
    * I'm not sure about the goggles. i know syrians were accused of it, in a pretty harsh way. they didn't criticize Lybia because Lybia wasn't involved... they criticized Syria. period.
    *Syria was hampering US's military operations, endangering US soldiers' lives, and this is relevant to US's passing of the Syria Accountability Act. im not talking about the technicality of who was on the "legal" side here. (if everyone just followed all rules all the time there wouldn't be a need for wars anyway so stop saying "illegal this" and "illegal that" it really is irrelevant)

    So whom is the threat?
    * to US? not israel, surely. it is an ally and a partner. Syria on the other hand... so if someone who's not your partner nor ally tries to acquire WMDs you get worried (sorry to spell it out for you but i feel i really need to in your case

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    )
    *plz spare me the conspiracy theories about israel nuking US.. i know you'r capable of something stupid like that.
    *involving israel in the discussion again, are you?

    If she is like a rabid dog and in the corner with IAF attacking her
    very nice imagery... syria as a rabid dog.

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    you probably meant to say that "israel is attacking as if it were a rabid dog"
    well it's only 1 attack and it's not on syrian military/civilian/gov't installations. so i'ts not like syrians would have to rush to defend their own.
    that is, unless the palestinian terrorists are considered Syria's own, in which case they would have to defend them.
     
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  7. Ghassan Kanafani Mujahid Registered Senior Member

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    A : Syria has offices of terrorist groups bombing civilians in israel, which it alleges it closed, and were strictly press offices as opposed to "martyrdom operation planning" offices.

    1) Israel has governmental offices of military divisions bombing civillians in Palestine , but we do not mind that because it is legislated/tolerated/appreciated by the forces that be .

    Conclusion : On grounds that the accuser is guilty of its own accusation in threefold , this claim is invalid .

    2) The accused "terrorists" are everybody who fights for liberation of Palestine and the Palestinian peoples . Israel only acknowledges camels or neo-Judenrat/Ordnungsdienst/Kapos as non-hostile Palestinians . If they are not determined to kill their own people they are not of value to Israel .

    Conclusion : The term terrorist has no value whatsoever .

    3) The defintion here in this sentence of "terrorist" relies of bombing civillians , and as we have already seen that such happens by the accuser through superior means ,with superior results and from a racist/progressive colonist reasoning and drive . Let's go along nevertheless and exclude the Nazi pointing at resistance , and we will that innumerous countries (I will pick Germany for the sake of psychologic ridicule) have offices of groups that are guilty of bombing civillians , like say the PKK or Grey-Wolf . Lebanon has accused terrorists as fractions in their representative parlement , which happens to be the same as one of whom Syria is accused to harbor as "terrorists": Hizbollah .

    Conclusion : The act of harboring civillian-bombers is no problem worldwide , not in form of legislates countries or political movements .

    4) Martyrdom operations are locally planned , anybody who knows anything about these operations on military level is aware of these unquestionable characteristics of such amateursitic operations .

    Conclusion : They are not planned in Syria but in the territories .

    5) The closing down of any offices under military/economical pressure by the imperialists to be called alleged implies that there is no evidence there isnt such a progression .

    Conclusion : Syria is giving in on the military/economical blackmail it is facing .

    B : Syria has [allegedly] terrorist training sites on its territory which it lets operate freely

    1) For the term terrorist , its implication , reality and conclusions see A-1 , A-2 and A-3 .

    2) For the implication of alleged see A-5 .

    3) The specification of sites as terrorist does not depend on on any specific military distinction , as they are all Syrian owned and run military training sites .

    Let us remember that this summer Syria has given in on Powell's demands to de-militarize schools and training grounds because they imply "terrorist training sites" .

    Conclusion : The aggressor can pick at convention any military site inside of Syria and declare it terrorist . The communication between the defintion they give it (falsly) and the sites they consider as such does not work . This re-confirms that there is no intention whatsoever to make logical arguments and base it on truth and justice , but that there is only intention to make arguments that have positive result of Israel's demands , whatever they may be .

    C : Syria is funding and diverting weapons / logistics to Hezbollah. A group which besides trying to destroy one of US's allies is a group that 20 years ago killed 250 American GIs.

    1) American GI's are military target therefor once again does not fit the description (falsly) given in the first place regarding "terrorist" as explained in A-1 . A-2 & A-3 .

    2) The other "factor" regarding destruction of allies reveals the true defintion which is anti-Israeli .

    3) The true identity of Hizbollah is democratic-parliamentary reality in Lebanon and a legitimate military force that has fought for the liberation of Lebanon from the zionist invasion in the 80's , coincidently lead by general Arik Sharon .

    Perhaps some history and actuality regarding Hizbullah would be appriopriate in formulating conclusions regarding their idenity , because it is nothing but their anti-zionist stand and defence of their own country that is the drive for these propagaters of ignorance to demonize them .

    * They are not a military organization but are a peoples representative organization that emmerged from the historical Shia uprising . They are socially represented through schools , hospitals & medical centers , orphanages , rehabilitation centers for the handicapped , supermarkets , gas stations , contructions companies , a radio station (Nur) and public service television station (Al Manar) .

    * They have a military wing that has fought the zionist invasion of their country for the last 20 years , if we desire to speak about illegitamite and unwanted military presence that is mentioned soon enough .

    Conclusion : The weapons/funding accusation is not of any value even if Syria would be found guilty of such .

    D : Syria is occupying Lebanon with 20,000 troops and has refused to get outta there

    Occupation implies hostility towards/from the souvereign native inhabitation . Im sorry to say that both the Muslim as the Christian fractions in Lebanon appreciate Syrian military presence .

    Lebanese Minister of Administrative Development, Karim Baqradouni, has asserted that the Syrian presence in Lebanon is legitimate and based on agreement of cooperation between the two states. He said on Monday that the presence of the Syrian forces in Lebanon is the only guarantee for the Syrian-Lebanese tracks concomitance.

    Baqradouni: Syria's presence in Lebanon is legitimate

    Ofcourse all this ignorant confusion regarding Syrian "occupation" comes from siding with Israel on whatever occasion possible . Ofcourse by ignorant peoples who have no idea about the Lebanese history , it seems easy fathomable . You can thank your own Goebbels for that one .

    Syrian diplomatic involvement grew during 1976, but it had little success in restoring order in the first half of the year. In January it organized a cease-fire and set up the High Military Committee, through which it negotiated with all sides. These negotiations, however, were complicated by other events, especially Lebanese Front-Palestinian confrontations. That month the Lebanese Front began a siege of Tall Zatar, a densely populated Palestinian refugee camp in East Beirut; the Lebanese Front also overran and leveled Karantina, a Muslim quarter in East Beirut. These actions finally brought the main forces of the PLO, the Palestine Liberation Army (PLA), into the battle. Together, the PLA and the Lebanese National Movement took the town of Ad Damur, a Shamun stronghold about seventeen kilometers south of Beirut.

    As Lebanese Front fortunes declined, two outcomes seemed likely: the establishment in Mount Lebanon of an independent Christian state, viewed as a "second Israel" by some; or, if the Lebanese National Movement won the war, the creation of a radical, hostile state on Syria's western border. Neither of these possibilities was viewed as acceptable to Assad. To prevent either scenario, at the end of May 1976 Syria intervened militarily against the Lebanese National Movement, hoping to end the fighting swiftly. This decision, however, proved ill conceived, as Syrian forces met heavy resistance and suffered many casualties. Moreover, by entering the conflict on the Christian side Syria provoked outrage from much of the Arab world.

    Despite, or perhaps as a result of, these military and diplomatic failures, in late July Syria decided to quell the resistance. A drive was launched against Lebanese National Movement strongholds that was far more successful than earlier battles; within two weeks the opposition was almost subdued. Rather than crush the resistance altogether, at this time Syria chose to participate in an Arab peace conference held in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, on October 16, 1976.


    Lebanon's Civil War

    Holy shit , could it be so that Syrian intervention was aimed at bringing down the Palestinian alliances to attempt to prevent segregation of the country into 2 extremist states ?

    Not to Israel , because they loooooooooved the Lebanese Front , nomatter how much they hated the Palestinians . Sabra & Shatila shows us how such love between zionists and the marginal extremist Christians is being expressed .

    E : Syria was sending fighters to Iraq, fighters which Syria knew intended to kill US troops. Syria also sent nite goggles and other equipment to US's enemies during operation Iraqi Freedom.

    1) Syria has not send any of its fighters in Iraq , these accusations are ridiculous and not proved whatsoever .

    2) Goggles stories from Rumsfeld are as stupid today as they were when they were made up .

    3) Operation Iraqi freedom is not legitimate in any way and does not serves purpose for any Iraqi freedom or Liberation , but again , for the benefits of the peoples who did have actual problems with Saddam and who do have actual problems with Syria : zionists .

    F : Syria [allegedly] provided safety for fleeing officials from the former Iraqi regime.

    1) For the implication of alleged see A-5

    2) USA has the tendency's to let Iraqi officials of high relevance (Hey Goebbels did information as well if we are comparing Iraq with Nazi Germany as zionists love to do) .

    3) USA imported local-Ba'athists back into their offices because they really dont care about any Ba'ath , making any allegations on such behalf completely ridiculous in the first place . The only care is the care to find an excuse to blame Syria for .

    G : Syria is producing / trying to produce WMDs even though it talks about a "WMD free middle east"

    1) Ignorant lies and every well thinking person , or handicapped who has some information on Syria can conclude this .

    2) Interesting is why they would wish for a nuclear-free zone . Can you guess ?

    Your brain

    See above

    Israel Uber Alles

    Depends on their aims :

    If they wish to please the peoples they strike back , however with this riduclous pretext of lies that is being shoved into peoples throats , the green light for progression of zionist attacks that could emerge into all seriousness is given .

    If they wish to survive and come out stronger they concentrate on information-issues , acts like there is little going on and lets Israel pick on them for a while . In the meantime they ought to enforce tieswhatever powers (the bigger the better) are prepared to ally them . When such accurs the US would slow down on the dragging of Israel , and Israel would become a little concerned when bigger nations become problematic . They should hold in mind that nations closeby are very isolated because of Israel , and they should encourage hopes of more souvereignity through diplomatic means and military alliances , but their real joker is likely to come from afar .

    Pressure through international media should be put on fellow Arab countries (especially Saudi Arabia and Egypt) regarding positioning on this issue and dragging them into any futuristic confrontation Israel desires .

    Because that still remains what this is about , a confrontation that Israel desires .

    Ofcourse its pre-emptive self defence

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  8. Ghassan Kanafani Mujahid Registered Senior Member

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    How outragious to approach matters objectively .

    No it has suffered military occupation by Israel . Syrian military presence is not occupational in any way .

    How ignorant are you man Lebanon has a parliamentary democracy . Shit do you know anything at all about Lebanon .

    No they are Syria's allies , but once more you talk out of your ignorant ass .

    A non-existing one

    Holy shit is he still doing that ? How dare he .

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    1) The allegation has no basis in evidence .
    2) Even if it would have basis in evidence , it would not be relevant in any way because sending goggles is totally ridiculous in the spectrum of that what is millitary assistance .

    OMG , they are not allowed to use their diplomatic means to disagree the invasion of a neighbouring country for the benefit of the same peoples that wish to invade them as well ?

    How about saving lives of Amerikan civillians , it is common knowledge that Syria assisted USA in the socalled war on terror but how quickly one forgets when the God Israel commands .

    How ignorant are you OMG

    Amazing

    Beyond amazing . Not even apes are actually arguing on this level .
     
  9. nico Banned Banned

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    an air force is a conventional arsenal which each sovereign nation has the right as

    No one is arguing here about the possession of the AF I am arguing the unjustifiable use of that very AF against a nation which legitmately provoked no action against her.

    the day israelis send someone to bomb busses in Damasqus, that's when your point will become valid.


    I know that Israel attacked Cairo with her B-17 bombers in 1948 I believe. So really relevance oth? And then Israel who destablized Lebanon with a raid on Beriut in 1968:

    The raid

    without any aggression? what the fuck is wrong with you?


    Did Syira attack Israel? Nope, Did Israel attack Syria? Yup! . 1,2,3.

    stop comparing Syria's actions to Israel's actions


    Then how can I rationally discuss this when you are proposing irrational compares. Israel has done the same as Syria yet I do not see a Israeli accountablity act.

    The Galil was never "syrian territory".

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    In 1981 Israel also unilaterally annexed the Golan Heights. The international community has not recognized these declarations.

    source

    Also let's look at this map shall we:

    Le map

    The purple area shows the area that was annexed by Israel, Syria was on the Lake of Tiberias and Israel along with the Golan seized the land, using simple geography one could easily come to the conclusion that to get to the Golan u have to get Galiee.

    syrians lost a war which they initiated, tough fuckin luck. should've thought about it before attacking. at any rate, the golan is a subject of peace negotiations.

    You do realize that I supported 1967, I don't support Illegal occupation of land that is internationally recognized as Syrian territory. Syrians lost a war yes, but they didn't lose any land (or least they shouldn't have), kicking out 130,000 Syrians in Israel's second phase of ethnic cleansing is ammoral, and we just waiting for the 3rd.

    * I'm not sure about the goggles. i know syrians were accused of it, in a pretty harsh way. they didn't criticize Lybia because Lybia wasn't involved... they criticized Syria. period

    The goggles came from Russia shouldn't Russia be on this as well?

    *Syria was hampering US's military operations, endangering US soldiers' lives, and this is relevant to US's passing of the Syria Accountability Act.


    It was a war oth... and remember who is it that went to fight along side the US against Saddam Hussein in 1991?

    to US? not israel, surely. it is an ally and a partner.

    And what a partner indeed, selling sensitive radar systems (American) to China. Why is there so much animosty towards the US in the region? And not France or the UK.... Israel. So really Israel is doing the US a horrid job as a "Friend".

    plz spare me the conspiracy theories about israel nuking US..

    Not nuking, blackmailing the US and god damnit it's worked.

    well it's only 1 attack and it's not on syrian military/civilian/gov't installations. so i'ts not like syrians would have to rush to defend their own.


    Ahh do you even know what territorial sovereignty is? Oh.. i bet you don't ur a Israeli. Ahh you know it was only one Israel too.

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    Hail o mighty Israel. Just give us Phalcons AWACS and do whatever you want to do. Thank you Israel and great Israeli soul " otheadp ".

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  11. jps Valued Senior Member

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    The only rational response to this act is for Syria to get nuclear weapons FAST. The US may well be making these statments so that they can set up their justification for a future invasion. Without a deterrent there's nothign they can do about that.
     
  12. nico Banned Banned

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    Syria cannot even get nuke weapons within the next 10 years. So I no possible threat from a non-existant Syrian nuke program. Syria's strength lays with it's Chem. weapons and Hezbollahs ability to destroy central Haifa from Southern Lebanon. This isn't 1973 here ok... we are talking about ballistic forces here.
     
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    alright then, I'm not real familiar with the state of syria's weapons programs, but if you'll recall, just prior to the invasion of Iraq, Saddam was pretty much agreeing to everything he was asked. It didn't do him any good, and it may well be the same for Syria. Even if they do exactly what the US asks, we may just claim they're hiding something and attack anyway. Real WMD are the only thing that would deter an invasion. Perhaps the reason we're putting this pressure on Syria is because we know they don't have any.
     
  14. nico Banned Banned

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    Oh yes, your right Syria really could open her doors to all the UN inspectors she wants invasion is going to happen. It's ME manifest destiny, with the US at the helm. What we do know Syria has is some Chem. weapons in which Syria is totally justified in having with 175 mm cannons facing Damascus everyday, armed with nukes. Hmmmm.... Saddam was a threat? Syria is now under nuclear and geo-political blackmail. Is the invasion of Syria going to happen? If Bush is in power for 4 more years. Yes the Syrians need two things to deter any invasion, a nuke, and a IRBM probably a No Dong from NK would be best. These stupid Americans don't realize they are not de-escalating the race to proliferation with there non-sensical bills. Rather as Wes Clarke said yesterday the US policy of pre-emption has increased nations awareness of the need for WMD.
     
  15. DeeCee Valued Senior Member

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    With all that in mind Otheadp why did the UK government invite Syria to the London arms fair in september '03?

    Who knows?
    Dee Cee
     
  16. truth Registered Senior Member

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    It utterly astounds me to see people defending Syria. You choose, what is the better country to live in. If Syria would pull back its own ambitions, the Israelis would back off too. Syria lost the Golan Heights because of its own stupidity. Personally, I would love to have seen Israel keep the the Sinai, West Bank, Gaza. Why do you think Israel does what it does? It is because the entire world has treated her like a pariah and then everybody gets upset when Israel acts like it or retaliates. But the Arabs, they never start anything, they behave so well. Israel is the little kid on the playground that kicked the bully's butt and everyone cries unfair.

    If Syria gets theirs, it is because they asked for it. They know how to prevent future problems and conflicts with Israel and the US. They should have learned from the past.
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    During the Six Day War, this division of Arabs is making its way across the burning desert sands towards Israel, when the Arab commander, bouncing along in his jeep, spots an aged Israeli on top a distant sand dune. The commander drops his binoculars and shouts orders to a foot soldier to run up ahead and kill the infidel Israeli. The soldier sprints ahead of the advancing troops, and soon disappears over the sand dune. The general stops the troops and waits to see what happens.

    Nothing happens. The commander sends a whole platoon of soldiers to investigate. All twelve Arabs disappear over the sand dune, never to be seen again. The now-slightly-anxious commander dispatches 3 tanks to find out just what in the heck is going on, and they disappear over the dune, too. Sweat pours down the commander's forehead as he orders his entire division to overrun the solitary Israeli behind the sand dune.

    But just then, the first soldier reappears on the distant sand dune and cups his hands to his lips. "Go back!" he shouts. "Go back! It's hopeless-- there's TWO of them!"
     
  17. truth Registered Senior Member

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    At the Russian War College, the general is a guest lecturer and tells the class of officers that the session will focus on potential problemsand the resulting strategies. One of the officers in the class begins by asking the first question,
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    "Yes, comrades, in all likelihood, you will," answers the general.
    "And who will be our enemy, Comrade General?" another officer asks.
    "The likelihood is that it will be China."
    The class looks alarmed, and finally one officer asks, "But Comrade General, we are 150 million people and they are about 1.5 billion. How can we possibly win?" "Well," replies the general, "think about it. In modern war, it is not the quantity, but the quality that is key. For example, in the Middle East, 5 million Jews fight against 50 million Arabs, and the Jews have been the winners every time."
    "But sir, " asks the panicky officers, "Do we have enough Jews?
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  20. I agree, My country needs the nukes, maybe we should ask our Pakistani muslim brothers to lend us some.

    We do have Chemical and Biological weapons, we can wipe out Israel if we want, but we are civilized nation, when attacked, we take the matter to the UN Security council unlike the nazi jews who act like the MAFIA.

    LONG LIVE SYRIA....

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  21. And last night the FRENCH PRESIDENT said, France and the EU are against any sanctions against SYRIA and they will go ahead and sign the European-Syrian Strategic partnership, who give a shite about American sanctions, most of our trade is with EUROPE, SO SCREW AMERICA.
     
  22. Ghassan Kanafani Mujahid Registered Senior Member

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    Will the ignorance ever stop ? Or slow down at least ?

    Is this the way you judge a political and military situation , by what country you believe it is better for you to live in ?

    It is absolutely pathetic that this is your level of arguing political matters , but because my superiority over you reflects absolutely on all levels , I can go along just fine :

    1) Syria has no apartheid-laws based on race and religion
    2) Syria has no suicide bombing every other week
    3) Syria has a modest society with proportionant western modernism there where it is desired by its peoples (let us not doubt the reflection of ignorance you are about to give us on this issue , let it be known that it was foretold

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    ) , while Israel is one big fake of everything . It is fake-peacefull , it is fake-religious . it is fake-social and in specific areas western consumerism reaches levels Las Vegas cant even imagine .

    Sure , the aggression stops when resisting cease to exist no ? Who is attacking who ? Who is occupying who ? Who is the native and who is the colonist ?

    Im sure you would , you would rather see the entire biblical Eretz Yisroel in the hands of the zionists state as that is required by your pathetic and disgusting pseudo-Christian ideals .

    You dont care about 130.000 of Syrians (of whom less than 30% Muslims , lets contemplate what religion they might be ..... ) that have been ethnic cleansed from Golan , you dont care about the millions of peoples that suffer under a foreign hostile military rule after already being chased out of their villages they rebuild their zionist settlements and city's on .

    All you care for is the work of your devils , because your heart is as demonic as theirs is .

    If the whole world would have treated her as such she would not exist this day . Your ignorance on that what keeps Israel alive is completely pathetic , your ignorance on the society you live is just as pathetic .

    How ignorant can you be ? Do you actually base some pathetic bully-little kid relations on Israeli inhabitants ?

    If that would be the case the USA with her shitty 280 million would mean absolutely shit in compare to China or India , does she ? How dumb can you be man ? Is this ignorance even possible ? Should we reconsider your status as a human being and categorize you with other mammals ?

    Thats not your argument thats your premis .

    What you desire is for peoples to SUBMIT themselves to your so9called superiority and blackmail . Fuck you and fuck your disgusting mind . You can only go sofar , untill our resistance will become YOUR submission .

    Might have been a Christian shouting to the other Christian . Become aware of this you disgusting excuse for oxygen consumption .

    Your ridicule is pathetic and shows once more your ignorance .

    Pathetic

    Disgusting

    Only camel that needs action is that corpse you call mother .

    Holy shit Arabs include non-Muslim society's , but once more your ape brain cannot coprehend anything outside of JVI logic .

    Huge oil wealth is what destroyed our societies , but ofcourse you dont care to look at anything that happened in history regarding the oil-enrichment proces . Thats because you are an ignorant motherfucker who has the heart of a devil .

    You describe situations that have many causes of which the heart is in your demonic hands , to some Arab inferiority .

    It is disgusting , and shows the digusting racist motherfucker that you truly are .

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  23. DeeCee Valued Senior Member

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    Ghassan
    You missed out 'Ignorant'

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