Why Mohammad invents Islam

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  1. Mohammad invents Islam for his sexual satisfaction

    “Much has been spoken about the inhuman treatment of women in Islam. If one wants to know the reason behind this, one has to closely examine Mohammad's personal life. As far as women are conecerned, they were just objects of sexual desire for Prophet Mohammad.
    Here you are going to see the insatiable sexual appetite that Mohammad possessed. This goes to show that among others, one of the main reasons for forming this religion, Islam, was so that sex was freely available to the male followers in the name of Allah.”
    From: http://derafsh-kaviyani.com/english/women2.html

    “Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:
    When I got married, Allah's Apostle said to me, "What type of lady have you married?" I replied, "I have married a matron' He said, "Why, don't you have a liking for the young virgins and for fondling them?" Jabir also said: Allah's Apostle said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?' ( Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 17)”
    From: http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/abulkazem/holy_family.htm

    “As many Western and Eastern apologists for Islam repeatedly tell us that what is happening to women in the so -called Islamic countries is not according to real Islam, and that real Islam is egalitarian, I mainly refer to the Koran. Laws about women are the most cruel, inhumane and cunning aspects of the Koran and Islamic Shari'a.”
    From: http://www.secularislam.org/women/womislam.htm


    “The life of Mohammad's first wife Khadija, for example, flatly contradicts Muslim descriptions of the Jahaliyya period as one of Darkness. Khadija was a widow. But she retained ownership of her business. She remarried, choosing her husband without an intermediary. Nor did she seek permission from any male member of her family. She also insisted that her marriage with Mohammad be monogamous. Khadija was the first convert to Islam, the one person to whom the Prophet always returned for advice and comfort. In short, Khadiha was very much a woman of the Jahiliyya.
    Contrast this with A'isha, perhaps the most famous of all of Muhammad's later wives. A'isha was married off to Mohammad as a small child. She had no say in the matter. She was probably Mohammad's favorite, but only one among eight other wives. Although A'isha remained headstrong, outspoken, a sexually active wife, her wit and wisdom prized and enjoyed by her husband, an intellect respected throughout her long life, she was to all intents and purposes marginalized and muzzled after Muhammad's death. In other words, A'isha is the exception to the rule, just a couple of generations later.”
    From: http://www.ibaradio.org/Islam/living_islam/LIC.htm
     
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  3. Ghassan Kanafani Mujahid Registered Senior Member

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    Mohammad invents Islam for his sexual satisfaction

    If anyone invented anything it would have been Abraham .

    Interesting how in one thread you claim Pagan heritage of Islam and in the other Muhammads "invention".

    http://derafsh-kaviyani.com/english/women2.html

    full of bull sorry

    too much to mention . one thing though .

    Muhammad was not Perfect Man . Al-Insan al-Kamil Allah is what such refers to , and Muhammad was not . He was the final Prophet , not anything else .

    http://www.secularislam.org/women/womislam.htm

    more bull , check out Sharia Law thread in WE&P if you care to have a clue .

    And Aisha .......

    Oh man why do you try to refute Islam with such sad lies repeatedly ? Do you feel so threatned by Islam to disprove it somehow for yourself ?

    I bet you'll convert within 5 years .
     
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  5. Zero Banned Banned

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    Just a side note. Speaking as a person who thinks Ghassan and all these **** are all **** ...

    ... Randolfo, there is no need to start three+ entire farking threads just to bash a religion. This is spamming.

    Moderator edit: Personal insults add nothing useful to the discussion.
     
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  7. Ignore this hateful scumbag and let us instead concentrate on the bible and its message of love and peace by clicking here:

    http://www.evilbible.com

    And if you want some sexual tutorials for free, again, refer to the bible, it is the best X-RATED PORNOGRAPHY BOOK in the world:

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    And if you want to refute all the christian PATHETIC lies against islam and its great prophet Muhammad(pbuh) then this is the site just to shut these scumbags for ever:

    http://www.answering-christianity.com

    And if you still wondering who to choose Jesus or Allah, your suffering is over with this amazing site:

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    Have a nice day everyone.
     
  8. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Proud’s qualifiers:

    Ignore this hateful scumbag… christian PATHETIC lies against islam… shut these scumbags for ever

    So, is this what one becomes by idolizing Muhammad?
     
  9. chalcedony Registered Senior Member

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    True prophets of God always knew the revelations were from God. There was never any doubt.

    Yet Mohammed was not sure of the source of his revelations. He believed himself to be possessed by demons. It was Khadija who convinced him he was a prophet. By what authority, experience or qualification did Khadija have to make the claim that Mohammed’s revelations were from God and not from an evil spirit?

     

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    My, sounds like you need a 'Damascus Road' experience, have a nice eternity
     
  11. Read more of "Genesis", you missed the part just before, were God destroyed Sodom & Gomorrah. Hmmm & I was told by many muslims that islam held the "Bible" in high regard as one of the "Books", are you being unmuslim? What will you tell Moses, when he asks you to explain your defaming of one of the Prophets?
     
  12. Ghassan Kanafani Mujahid Registered Senior Member

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    Stop crying like a baby , go look for an argument instead ****.

    You know my brother , your hatefull shit against Christianity is starting to make me sick . It is stupid reactionary crap like this that divides Arab peoples in Arabia, its their ignorant intolerance of eachother that makes them an easy pray for outside interests .

    FUCK your bullshit against Christianity . My niece is Christian , she is from Halab , from Sureeyah just like you . Does she now study evil scriptures ? Is she now some perverd reading pornography and all that crap ? You're the one here linking sites that are porn & hentai affiliated , not any Christian .

    Why do you try to insult an entire peoples because of this other Christan bigot who tries to insult the Ummah ? Why do you do exactly the same as he does ?

    Its pathetic man and it divides our peoples .
     
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  13. So now and just know you want to beg muslims to remeber the BOOK !!!

    Look man, when someone so ignorant of islam like you come and try to defame islam, you will find muslims who will stand up for your lies and hate.

    Yes, we muslims believe in christianity, we muslims believe in Jesus and in his miraclour birth, we do believe in the ORIGINAL bible not this corrupt one......ISLAM IS FAR MORE TOLERANT THAN YOU ARE....WE RECOGNIZE JESUS AND MOSES AND WE RESPECT THEM, WHILE YOU: THE SCUMBAGS, INSULT MUHAMMAD USING FILTHY WORDS..YOU WONT FIND A SINGLE MUSLIM INSULTING JESUS..

    You are really the evil christians.
     
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  14. I wont respond to your nonesense but i will tell you this: who gives a shite if your niece is christian ? I am from Halab and I know VERY WELL how those EVIL SYRIAN CHRISTIANS think of us muslims and the amount of hate they carry against us !!

    So stop being PODDLE and claim yourself FULL TIME MUSLIM and remeber this verse from the noble Quran:

    ''And the Jews will not be pleased with you, nor the Christians until you follow their religion. Say: Surely Allah's guidance, that is the (true) guidance. And if you follow their desires after the knowledge that has come to you, you shall have no guardian from Allah, nor any helper.'' The Noble Quran 2: 120
     
  15. chalcedony Registered Senior Member

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    Then why does this sura claim muslims are to accept the gospel and torah?

    So if you (O Muhammad SAW) are in doubt concerning that which We have revealed unto you, [i.e. that your name is written in the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)] then ask those who are reading the Book [the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)] before you. Verily, the truth has come to you from your Lord. So be not of those who doubt (it). (Yunus 10:94)

    Please tell me when the bible was corrupted as you claim. Was it before Mohammed? Was it after the time of Mohammed? Then why is the Bible and Torah of Mohammed’s time the same as it is now and before his time as shown by dated documents of the bible and torah?
     
  16. So by posting the ayat YUNUS 10:94, you are CONFIRMING that the prophet muhmmad was foretold in the bible and torah ??

    the bible got corrupted before the coming of islam, and THIS IS WHY GOD ALMIGHTY sent the prophet muhammad with the noble Quran to correct the mislead christians who believe so absurdly that jesus is god !!

    regarding the history of bible corruption, you need just to look at couple of contradictions in the bible to find out by self:

    II Samuel 24 :1 says that God incited David to number Israel .
    I Chronicles 21:1 says that Satan incited David to number Israel.

    God and Satan are not synonymous.

    II Chronicles 36:9 says that Jehoiachin was 8 years old when he became king.
    II Kings 24:8 says Jehoiachin was 18 years old when he became king.

    A difference of 10 years

    II Samuel 10:18 talks about David slew the men of 700 chariots of the Syrians and 40,000 horsemen and Shobach the commander.
    I Chronicles 1:18 says that David slew the men of 7000 chariots and 40,000 footmen

    Contradiction: one says 700 the other 7000. One says 40,000 horsemen(cavalry), the other 40,000 footmen (infantry).

    I Chronicles 9:25 says that Solomon had 4000 stalls for horses and chariots.
    I Kings 4:26 says that he had 40,000 stalls for horses

    A difference of 36,000.

    and the list goes on and on........
     
  17. chalcedony Registered Senior Member

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    No. I accept only the words of God, not the lies of a man possessed by demons (as Mohammed himself believed).

    Then where is it written in the quran that the gospel is false? Everything I have read in the quran says the gospel is true. There is nothing that says the gospel was corrupted in the quran. The bible is the inspired word of God, a promise of His salvation through Jesus Christ, His Son.
     
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  19. Ghassan Kanafani Mujahid Registered Senior Member

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    I give . By this you are insulting my family and therefor you are insulting me .

    You are the disgrace of Halab , disgrace of Arabia and disgrace of Islam . The only Christians that carry the ammount of hate you speak of are those who are paralel to YOU .

    It is peoples like you that are the very first responsibles for the tearing up of our peoples and our countries . Worse than the European colonists , Brits , Amerikan and Zionists , it is peoples like YOU who divide a people because of such hate based on creed .

    You are no better than a racist , and a trator of the Arab peoples .

    FULL TIME MUSLIMS ?!!!! Do you think it is some job to be a Muslim ? Do you think being a Muslims means taking Ayat out of context and mis-representing as hate to divide a peoples ?

    Do you think that makes you a Muslim ? You have shown your true self and I will hold no respect whatsoever for someone who consciously insults me and my family , who is trator of my peoples and who strives for anarchy and division , only for colonists to take advantage of . You might as well be a demon mossad agent payed to cause strive between Muslims and Christians , you do their job for them .

    It is peoples like YOU who are fully responsible for every single war an Arab has fought against another Arab . It is peoples like YOU who have tried to make sure there is no place for ARABS in Arabia because of their religious creed .

    If that is who you are , your place is in war . Go to Israel where you can kill Jews . Go to Kashmir where you can kill Hindu's . Go to Amerika where you can kill Christians .

    But dont come spread your ignorant creap in here , your intellectual contribution is not desired .
     
  20. chalcedony Registered Senior Member

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    No, I spent some time debating whether to fully expound on what you claim are errors or whether I should just do what you do and post websites that you will never bother to look at.

    Here's one

    Another

    Another you will not look at
     
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  22. LAMO...........All the hate anti muslim sites you posted did not refer me to the contradictions in your evil bible, could it be you dont have an aswer to these contradiction and hence the bible is NOT the word of God but the word of humans ??

    but hey until you sniff for more garbage, May I entertain you with these sweet sites:

    http://www.evilbible.com

    http://www.biblesexstories.com

    http://www.answering-christianity.com

    http://www.jesus-or-allah.com

    ENJOY !!!!

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