A challenge for the theists out there

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  1. TheNatMan Chlamydia-free since 1934 Registered Senior Member

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    Searching online today, i found an interesting statement, made by the Greek philosopher Epicurus:
    "Is_God_willing_to_prevent_evil, but not able? Then_he_is_not_omnipotent.
    Is_he_able,_but_not_willing? Then_he_is_malevolent.
    Is_he_both_able_and_willing? Then_whence_cometh_evil?
    Is_he_neither_able_nor_willing? Then_why_call_him_God?"
    I had never before thought of that, but its a really good point, i think. Does anyone have a REASONABLE explanation for this?
     
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  3. okinrus Registered Senior Member

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    God would have to force you to love him and then that would not be love. At some point, you would have to choose freely to be with God or not.
     
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  5. wayne_92587 Registered Senior Member

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    Evil is not Relative to God.
    God does not recognize Evil.
    God is Amoral.

    Evil is not God's Son, Creation.

    Evil is relative to Man not God.

    The Reality of the Material World is relative to God's Law of Singularity.

    Only the Whole of a Single Material Reality, a Singularity, is Free to occupy a given Moment of Time in Space.

    Evil is a Duality, a Duality is Evil, two separate and different opposing Singularities Occupying the same given moment of Time in Space.

    A duality is not a simple pair of opposites, which can not occupy the same moment of Time in Space.

    A singularity may be tall or short but never both at the same time.

    The motion, the form, shape, of a singularity alone in the Emptiness is without meaning, is uncertain, without dimension, without definition, is immaterial, without cause, without effect, is relative only to itself, the Whole of a Single Reality.

    It is when One is Two, that One becomes Irrational.

    The Knowledge of Good and Evil causes Man to be irrational, to be guileful, Duplicitous, to be of Two Minds, to be a double dealer, two faced, to talk out of both, two sides of his mouth, to speak with a Forked Tongue, to lie, to be wily, to be deceptive, to be Evil.

    Man’s Truth, the Knowledge of Reality that he speaks of, if it is a Duality, a half-truth, a Lie, a deception , that is Evil.

    Evil is a Lie, God does not Lie.

    Lies, the Truth that Man Speaks of is not the Truth, the Whole Truth and nothing but the Truth, the Singularity of Truth, The Absolute Truth.

    Evil is not Relative to God, Evil is Relative to Man’s Truth, the Knowledge of Reality that he Speaks of.

    Man is Free to do, to speak, as he Will.

    Evil is Man’s Responsibility, she was told not to eat that damn apple.

    Evil made manifest, duality, the Knowledge of Good and Evil, is the Creation of the One that is Two, the One that is of Two Minds, the One that is two speaks with a forked tongue is Irrational, Evil.

    Two, Duality, the differentiation of a Singularity is Irrational.

    Hermes Pythagoras Trismegistus, Keeper of the Holy Grail,--->O


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  7. everneo Re-searcher Registered Senior Member

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    These type of selective logic will not be helpful to find the truth. It assumes God exists and on that basis it questions his attributes which is not explainable with a limitted knowledge on complex entity like God and it comes to a 'logical'(?) conclusion too such as this: "Then_he_is_malevolent."

    On the other hand if you assume that God exists then 'after life' explanations could not be rejected as rubbish. In the context of 'after life' eternity, good and evil in this temporal world would seem to be mere instruments of God in the endless unknown wierd process of creation, sustenance, improvement and destruction of universe and the living and non-living things.

    If this explanation is not acceptable then we should not assume that God exists and try to assess him as 'malevolent' with our limited 'wisdom'.
     
  8. Zero Banned Banned

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    God IS evil AND good! lol read Demian
     
  9. wayne_92587 Registered Senior Member

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    God can not be, do Evil, Wrong.

    God is Amoral, is Free to do as God Will.

    God is innocent of the Knowledge of Evil.

    Every thing that is bound to the Reality of God is Good.

    God, can not be Judged, is Innocent of any Wrong- Doing.

    Two, Duality, is Irrational.

    Keep to the way of the Void, nothingness, zip, zero-->O


    The Reality of One, the Law of Singularity.

    Keeper of the Holy Grail-----„³O
     
  10. EvilPoet I am what I am Registered Senior Member

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    "the Reality of God"

    "God is dead. God remains dead. And
    we have killed him." -The Madman
     
  11. Whew, that's a load off my mind.
     
  12. wayne_92587 Registered Senior Member

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    Did that thought come from the seat of your pants?
     

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