Why is god so hard to disbelieve?

Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by Zero, Jul 3, 2003.

  1. Zero Banned Banned

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    There is no evidence of even a possibility that a god/gods exist. Gods are only created from the human mind. To paraphrase Cris, they're figments of human imagination. Believing in god(s) is akin to believing that the great big hairy monstery under your bed (perhaps you made his acquaintence around the age of five?) is real.

    Why believe? There is no logical reason.
     
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  3. VitalOne Banned Banned

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    You can't prove that what you see is real, so why believe that?
     
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  5. DefSkeptic Registered Senior Member

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    Human intellectual and emotional weakness.
     
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  7. VitalOne Banned Banned

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    There is no logical reason for anything. Quantum Physics isn't logical, yet its true.
     
  8. fadingCaptain are you a robot? Valued Senior Member

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    If you are raised religious it can be very hard...at least initially.

    It requires the brain to take a left turn and an admission that everything the people you love has told you is probably hogwash. Basically, you have to realize that the people you trust and respect have no clue. When you are a kid in high school this makes the world seem like a lonely and desolate place. Luckily things get better in college.

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    Social conditioning is a bitch to unwind...
     
  9. Raithere plagued by infinities Valued Senior Member

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    Quantum physics is perfectly logical (evinced by the fact that it has been worked out mathematically), it's just not commonsensical. That is, the macroscopic laws of nature that we are familiar with on the level of human perception do not apply on the quantum level.

    ~Raithere
     
  10. VitalOne Banned Banned

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    You are right, after one studies Quantum Physics it becomes completely logical. I meant that by using common sense it would seem wrong.
     
  11. Philosopher Wannabe Philosopher Registered Senior Member

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    May I ask why you made the same thread twice?
     
  12. Pete It's not rocket surgery Registered Senior Member

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    Actually, that's not quite true. Evidence is there (eg miracles), but is dismissed as unreliable or invalid by non-believers, quite possibly correctly.

    Have you taken the time to investigate the investigation of any miracles? Even one?
     
  13. Cris In search of Immortality Valued Senior Member

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    Pete,

    Do you have one you can share with us?
     
  14. Pete It's not rocket surgery Registered Senior Member

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    Surely at least one person who thinks that there is no evidence for God knows of at least one alleged miracle?

    Maybe start with Jean-Pierre Bely. He was allegedly miraculously cured of MS.
    Look him up. Be careful of generalising.
     
  15. Zero Banned Banned

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    It's logical. Not my problem if you're too stupid to comprehend it.
     
  16. Zero Banned Banned

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    Can you read? What same thread? Are you fucking illiterate?
     
  17. Zero Banned Banned

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    "Allegedly". Not "proven to be".

    I have yet to see a credible, neutral, non religious website acknowledge that it was indeed a miracle. "Allegedly" means nothing.

    If I sue your mother for murdering mine, the news will say that your mom "allegedly" killed mine. Means nothing; hasn't been proven.

    Nice try.
     
  18. ConsequentAtheist Registered Senior Member

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    Logic belongs to the domain of the a priori.

    Apparently, "you're too stupid" to make your point without childish ad hominem.

    Now that was a literate comment.

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    The issue is not that God constructs are necessarilly 'illogical', but that there is no compelling evidence warranting belief.
     
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  19. everneo Re-searcher Registered Senior Member

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    Why do you get pissed-off yourself and others of late..? got menopause..?
     
  20. Zero Banned Banned

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    Eh, do men get menopause?

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    *runs off to check*

    Apparently some people found my most recent post a bit too hard to deal with. Cool.
     
  21. Philosopher Wannabe Philosopher Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, one thread asking why is it so hard to believe. Well wouldn't you think the other sides question would be why so hard to disbelieve. There was no need to start a seperate thread. Both sides were being discussed. But now you're just spliiting groups up with this thread. Threads subject lines might take the side of one group, but trust me, the other side is being represented and is asking the appropriate questions. There was no need for this thread.
     
  22. ConsequentAtheist Registered Senior Member

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    You confuse "too hard to deal with" with "puerile and ignorant".

    Particularly puerile.
     
  23. VitalOne Banned Banned

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    Zero,

    Getting angry does nothing to anyone but yourself. Explain this, Logically, why is surviving important to everything?
     

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