07-01-03, 01:12 PM #61
"I don't know where you got this statement..."
I knew that I was clear enough.
07-01-03, 05:42 PM #62Originally posted by drnihili
Too bad Jesus didn't say anything about not taking quotes out of context. You'll notice I did not say she was a hypocrite. I said:If you think your way of dealing with other people is pleasing to your God, and if you would be happy to see your children follow suit, then by all means continue. Otherwise you're just a petty hypocrite.
07-01-03, 07:31 PM #63
Creating a conscious machine would only add probability to the argument of design for no such sentient machine could have ever been possibly created on its own (by natural processes of evolution.)
The evolutionary arrival of a conscious machine will be the result of natural evolution where the role of man was that of a catalyst and not a creator.
But let’s not deceive ourselves that man will tomorrow design a conscious machine. I suspect such a machine is inevitable but it will take man many attempts to make it work. The whole process will yet again be an evolutionary process, with many rejects and errors, in a very similar way that the electronic computer has evolved over the past 60 years and is still evolving.
There is a temptation to consider man as something special, but he is not. In terms of the evolutionary history of life man is a very recent arrival and the evolution of intelligence probably means that he will not stay as he is for very long since he is already starting to take control of the next stages in his own evolution, e.g. genetic engineering.
Even if the machine ever truly becomes conscious (not programmed to act consciously) then their would be another problem: how would consciousness be possible without a programmer?
(programmer: individual that places all the parts together and organized their harmonious interdependance and capability of recognition between each part)
The key components of the human brain are its ability to learn and adapt. The key components of an AI machine will have similar capabilities. The human brain comprises essentially a very simple mechanism, the neuron. But when 200 billion of them interact with each other and form patterns then what you see is “consciousness”. Note that all your brain patterns weren’t programmed; they were formed gradually over time from the time your brain first formed inside the womb. A new born baby has very few capabilities since those complex neural networks haven’t formed.
An AI machine only needs the essential learning seed for it to grow just like a human brain. It is the development of such seeds that are the focus of much development in the field of AI.
Thus the two problems still remain:
1- How was OUR consciousness 'made\originated'?
2- Is outside interference necessary to create such consciousness?
In the event of a conscious machine, we would not be able to answer any of these two questions in the favor in which you proclaim... it would certainly go in the opposite direction.