Militant Aborigines embrace Islam

Looks like its getting popular over there now!

Militant young Aborigines are converting to Islam in increasing numbers, and some are flirting with the fundamentalist ideologies that have inspired recent terrorism.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/australasia/story.jsp?story=382371

 

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kill them. i am tired of fundies treating me like dirt

 

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From the linked article: "it gives me strength to endure and not lash out at all the things that we've been through".

How scary :bugeye:

 

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Where is Adam this is his domain.

 

adam had a fight with xev and quit

 

Hi Asguard your opinion will do you live there.

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my opinion is good for them, everyone has the right to chose what they belive in

 

Asguard

I agree with you!

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his domain? i champion these freaks in a very vociferous manner. the abo's are mine !

 

Militant, Islamist Aborigines: in Adam's immediate neighborhood, no less.

Proof-positive the Universe has a most perverse, albeit emmensely satisfying sense of humor (beyond the usual, traditional, faith-based issues).

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I'm having a bit of a chuckle over it myself

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A cleft stick situation here...

You give them the right to believe in what they want to...

They want you to believe in their belief " or else "...

 

Same with any American point of view ... Choose freedom - or else!

 

Maybe the ADF had a good reason to concentrate more spending on combatting terrorism after all, eh adam? lol You know what they say, aboriginies.. <FONT COLOR=BLACK><FONT SIZE=1><FONT FACE="TIMES NEW ROMAN"><I>you can't live with 'em, you can't stop 'em from embracing militant islam! </I></FONT></FONT></FONT> *grin*

Honestly though, it's hard to place any freedom above "freedom of religion". If they want to dump "dreamtime" for "muslim" great for them. It's a different story when buildings start blowing up in the name of "allah".

 

Treat 'em right, no worries.

 

Yeah, make sure you dress your daughters in burkas, bow your knees to allah and surrender any freedoms which aren't allowed by the koran... anything less isn't "treating 'em right".

 

Living 18 years in the Middle East and in 3 Muslim-majority countries, I was never pressured to do any of the above. They treated me right.

 

Does your "good for them" include the ones who are turning to Islam because it's "empowering" as well, Asguard? Not because they believe in god, but because they feel empowered? Does it include the militant ones who seemed to be the focus of that story?

I have nothing against Muslim aboriginals (find it rather amusing actually, and wonder if they'd stay muslim if courts ruled they weren't eligible for land rights after having severed ties with their ancestry...). I do have something against people who become muslim for reasons other than religion... It seems to be percieved as a religion which condones violence and revenge, and regardless of whether this is the truth or not, some are turning to it in the belief that it is so. It appears to be a problem the muslim community should address in more detail.

 

i agree with you

religion is not politics (i wish the yanks would work that out when they say "oh there just religious fanatics") but then we also dont santure people for there politics either, not here at least

rember pauline hanson?, apart from the major political partys who put her on the botom of there how to vote cards

so still what right do we have to judge?

do we ridicul people for belonging to the, um damit i cant rember the other shoters party (not the sporting shoters party)

 

Hmm.. Pauline Hanson is a tricky subject. While the woman herself was a racist (I don't think there is much doubt of that) her policies were dismissed for ad hominem reasons, ie. if the woman is racist, her policies must also be racist.

Some of them no doubt were. Others were worth considering. She was against, for example, the separation of educational grants for aboriginals. Here in Australia we have austudy (an education allowance for students) and abstudy (an education allowance for aboriginals). Why the separation? Some argue it's because they have differing needs.. and yet they are both administered by the same public service branch, using very similar grant rules. Others argue that separating the two is more racist than having a single education grant which does not discriminate between black, and everyone else. Such a policy would be more anti-racist than anything, in my view.

Perhaps this type of legal separation between aboriginals and everyone else, is adding fuel to the fire, causing them to see themselves as being "different" while attempting to help? Perhaps some of Hanson's policies wouldnt have been so bad after all.