08-20-12, 06:18 PM #1
Republicans/Tea Partiers Gone Wild
After taking the nation to the brink of financial disaster, Republican/Tea Party congressmen party like rock stars in the Holy Land.
“While on one of those phoney-baloney AIPAC “fact-finding junkets” vacation thingys in the Holy Land, a bunch of Republicans were partying like it was 29 AD, got ripped to the gills on Manischewitz (Jewish Zima) and next thing you know clothes were flying off and everyone was a’splishing and a’splashing in the throes of some kind of sex-rapture aquatic-orgy in the sacred water upon which Jesus once moon-walked. First in to Shrinkage City was Kevin Yoder who showed the Middle East and other Congress-people’s families what it’s like to rock out with your xxxx out.” - Fire Dog Lake
I think we have to appreciate all the good humor our Republican/Tea Party fellows bring to us on regular basis. However, it would be nice if they could spend at least as much time doing something more relevant to their profession and something that could help the nation like some practical courses in applied ethics.
If their fact finding mission was so important to the nation, it should have been paid for by the US taxpayer and not a special interest group. Additionally, would it be too much to ask our Republican/Tea Party brothers and sisters to act with decorum when overseas on public business.
08-20-12, 06:23 PM #2
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08-20-12, 09:01 PM #5
But it was only the one guy who was actually naked? And Eric Cantor chastised them for it? Yoder can be rebuked for his antics (I'm not sure if he "should be" as I have certainly shown worse judgement, on occasion), but I'm not sure why Cantor found "swimming while intoxicated" to be untoward. Having fun while drunk isn't against the rules where I went to church. I suppose "party like a rock star" sounds bad, but surely that's more spin than substance.
Were any of them hardcore evangelicals or Mormons? (As at least they do, so far as I understand it, have rules against drinking.)
08-20-12, 09:19 PM #6
08-20-12, 11:46 PM #7
What if President Obama visited Israel, got drunk, got naked, and went partying in a holy place? Do you think this is acceptable behavior for our officials when they go overseas?
08-21-12, 12:02 AM #8
08-21-12, 12:11 AM #9
There is a difference between getting naked and swimming in holy places and going nutty on vacation and doing it when you are on duty, on official business. How would you like it if your employees got drunk and win skinny dipping in your neighbor’s pool? These Congressmen were not on vacation. They were on an official fact finding mission.
It is one thing to get nutty on vacation. It is quite another when you are on official business of state. These guys are representing The United States of America on an official fact finding mission. So you don’t mind if representatives of our country go to another country in an official capacity and act like asses? Ok. That is your opinion and you are welcome to it. But I find it rather embarrassing.
08-21-12, 12:42 AM #10
There is a difference between getting naked and swimming in holy places and going nutty on vacation and doing it when you are on duty, on official business.
How would you like it if your employees got drunk and win skinny dipping in your neighbor’s pool?
These Congressmen were not on vacation. They were on an official fact finding mission.
It is one thing to get nutty on vacation. It is quite another when you are on official business of state.
These guys are representing The United States of America on an official fact finding mission. So you don’t mind if representatives of our country go to another country in an official capacity and act like asses? Ok. That is your opinion and you are welcome to it. But I find it rather embarrassing.
08-21-12, 01:14 AM #11
I think Joe is getting off message. It isn't so much a matter of how bad this was, it's a matter of how badly Republicans would lose it if it were democrats who had done it. Sort of like imagining if a Democrat president had given a press pass, to a "reporter", who only asked the softest of softball questions, and then turned out to be a male prostitute. If it had been a democrat, I imagine it would have rivaled the Lewinsky scandal. But who remembers Jeff Gannon now?
08-21-12, 02:36 AM #12
“Members of Congress make fact-finding missions to learn about other countries and stay informed, but these outings can cause controversy if the trip is deemed excessive or unconnected with the task of governing. For example, the Wall Street Journal reported lawmaker trips abroad at taxpayer expense, which included spas, $300-per-night extra unused rooms, and shopping excursions. Lawmakers respond that "traveling with spouses compensates for being away from them a lot in Washington" and justify the trips as a way to meet officials in other nations.” - Wikipedia
Two you need to brush up on the meaning of a straw man.
I did not misrepresent the position of an opponent, I merely pointed out some obvious errors. Two there were more than freshmen congressmen in attendance. Eric Cantor was there too. Is Eric Cantor a junior congressman? No. What I find interesting here is that you don’t have any qualms about our law makers going to foreign lands and acting like asses. How would you feel if Israel's law makers came here and acted like asses?
08-21-12, 06:50 AM #13
Swimming is allowed in the Sea of Galilee by anyone. I have a big problem not knowing much about when the Democrats go on there "junkets" as to their behavior because the media never brings their agenda up at all. Fair and balanced media, baloney, the media is only trying to find anything wrong with the Republicans they can and turn their heads when Democrats do something foolish.
08-21-12, 08:38 AM #14
Oh, now the infamous “liberal media” is responsible. Ok here is your big chance to prove the big bad “liberal media” exists. Show us where Democrats have done similar things while on fact-finding missions? If you cannot, are you suggesting that the media is obligated to create fiction in the interest of bipartisanship? If that is the case, is Fox News, Limbaugh, Levin, Hannity, et al. going to be similarly obligated?
08-21-12, 09:30 AM #15
that mantra is misplaced, just flat out wrong and obviously pulled out of your ass
aief was the sponsor. a lobby such as aipac is not allowed to directly sponsor trips but does so thru other means
A Cantor spokesman confirmed that the majority leader dressed down his Republican colleagues and that a staffer was later interviewed by FBI agents.
“Twelve months ago, [Cantor] dealt with this immediately and effectively to ensure such activities would not take place in the future,” said Doug Heye, Cantor’s deputy chief of staff.
Heye added: “Last year, a staffer was contacted by the Bureau [FBI], which had several questions, the staffer answered those questions and that appears to have been the end of it.”
...but i get it that shit like that simply does not compute with you
08-21-12, 10:04 AM #16
so ahh.. around the same time 26 dems took aief's blood money and flitted over to israel where.......
House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer, who is leading a congressional delegation on a week-long trip to Israel, broke with U.S. policy on Thursday and said the Jewish state should be allowed to build in disputed East Jerusalem.
Just two days after the State Department blasted Israel’s recent authorization of additional housing construction in the eastern section of the holy city, Hoyer told POLITICO in an interview that he sees the area as a Jewish neighborhood that must be expanded to accommodate growth.
skinny dipping drunk in the galilee would have been eminently more preferable
i say hang for treason
08-21-12, 10:38 AM #17
As to showing about what the Democrats do, I can't really come up with their nonsense as easily because the media doesn't say much against them, interesting isn't it?
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08-21-12, 11:32 AM #18
You have concluded that the media you hear is biased, the magical mystical liberal media is behind every fault in the Republican Party in your mind. But you cannot support your notion with evidence, so just maybe your conclusion is wrong. Conclusions should be based on evidence, and you have none.
News organizations are businesses, they sell news. They are biased toward what sells. The media is biased towards sensationalism regardless of party affiliation. So if Republicans present more comedic/sensational opportunities, the media is going to pick up on it. And you are going to see it in their programming. So just because you see one party being reported more for silliness, it does not mean the media is biased against them. It is because they are silly.
And some media organizations are deliberately peddling to a specific audience (Fox, Clear Channel, MSNBC and CNBC, etc.) versus the broader news market and selling a specific agenda. Those are definitely biased sources. I view news from a variety of sources. But here is where I draw the line. When news is created out thin air, when facts are created to suit the political need; that is where I draw the line. And that happens all the time in the conservative media (e.g. Fox, Clear Channel, et al.). You don’t see that in news sources like MSNBC or CNBC.
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