# Thread: STRENGTHS and WEAKNESSES of the THEORY OF RELATIVITY

1. When I read "the becoming" I think of "the Quickening" from Highlander. There can be only one!!

2. Originally Posted by origin
Ah, yes the law of changing matter. How well I remember that chapter in my text book Natrual Sciences and Junk Like That.
haha

3. HERACLITUS:

“No one ever steps in the same river twice” was one of the most famous sayings of the Greek philosopher Heraclitus of Ephesus (540-480 BC ). He believed that the universe is constantly changing and is never the same. Nothing in this world is constant except change or becoming.
ISAAC NEWTON:

"Absolute, true, and mathematical time, in and of itself and of its own nature, without reference to anything external, flows uniformly and by another name is called duration. Relative, apparent, and common time is any sensible and external measure (precise or imprecise) of duration by means of motion; such a measure - for example, an hour, a day, a month, a year - is commonly used instead of true time." -Principia
According to our conceptual thinking the Newton's absolute time agrees with the regular becoming and the relative time agrees with the quantitative measurement of time (clocks). Newton didn’t refer himself to the irregular becoming.

DURATION = DUALITY BECOMING-TIME (ABSOLUTE-RELATIVE)

4. Newton was wrong. He lived and worked in a low-energy, slow moving universe. His laws are simply an approximation which work well in a limited subset of reality, but are not applicable outside that limited realm.

5. I wouldn't go quoting Heraclitus, there are only a few 'quotes' reportedly from him and even they are second/third hand.

Also Newton wasn't wrong, he was perfectly correct for the observations of the day.

6. I have quoted Heraclitus and Newton, but they made ​​their contributions according to the time. Even now are not entirely wrong.

Regards.

There is a difference between space, time, and spacetime.

7. The answer to my last post's question was "No" then. If you could at least have the decency to say it clearly rather than running around the houses that'd help discussion.

8. I wonder if by way of the invention of words there was a struggle between the word realativity and the word relativity........
O, the relatives heaha...........

The space is 3D, the time is 1D and the spacetime is 4D.

10. Posted by Alphanumeric:
If you could at least have the decency to say it clearly rather than running around the houses that'd help discussion.
This is something personal, but I was attacked strongly and they wanted to take me to a mathematical plane.

11. GPS CLOCKS

d = Δgt, x. The duration is equal to the gradual increase of time "t" since the moment x. x is the time to start to count the duration.

If t is uniform, then d is periodic and precise. (clocks, Newton).

If t is variable, then d is imprecise. (Einstein's Relativity).

The relative time is not convenient to do measurements.

Clocks in GPS satellites require synchronization with ground-based (Newton) for which we must take into account the General Theory of Relativity and Special Theory of Relativity (Einstein). If you do not take into account the effect on time has the speed and gravity in relation to an observer on the ground, would be a sliding of 38 microseconds per day, which in turn would cause errors of several kilometers in determining position.

12. GPS is a daily demonstration that Einstein, and not Newton, is correct. Newton is a good aproximation in a low-energy, slow moving invironment.

13. AlexG says:
GPS is a daily demonstration that Einstein, and not Newton, is correct. Newton is a good aproximation in a low-energy, slow moving invironment.
I respect your opinion, but what I say is that GPS clocks are not enough, we must synchronize them.

And remenber:
The variable time is a strength of Relativity.
In the Duality becoming-time (Duration) I consider both theories.

14. Originally Posted by Sibilia
I respect your opinion, but what I say is that GPS clocks are not enough, we must synchronize them.

In the Duality becoming-time (Duration) I consider both theories.

15. You mean Wisdom, Tenacity and Focus?

Well, I'm going to bed. Good night.

16. THEORIES THAT COMPLEMENT TRUTH

1 - Isaac Newton referred to a uniform rhythm time and never thought that this could vary, because
in measuring the pattern should remain unchanged.

2 - For Henri Bergson becoming, that he understood as duration, it is only subjective.

3 - The Albert Einstein's Relativity focuses on the variable rhythm time, which many observers
get different measures. Before time is the absolute becoming. Without the property of becoming no time.

It follows that:

DURATION = BECOMING-TIME DUALITY (ABSOLUTE-RELATIVE)

17. You've now descended into incoherence. At least try to form cogent sentences.

18. You've now descended into incoherence. At least try to form cogent sentences.
How am I going to convince someone that puts before the incoherence to that I think.

19. No, Einstein says nothing about time having rhythm. It's simply relative from one inertial frame to another, to the degree set forth in the Lorentz transformation. GPS does not synchronize clocks in the manner you seem to think. The time dilation of a particular satellite is calibrated into the measurements, however. Geolocation is done by time difference of arrival (TDOA), which is in itself a relative measurement of a sort. George Washington, a surveyor, knew how to do this, by having two observers posted at different map coordinates with synchronized stop watches. They were to record the time at which any canon shots were heard. He knew he could draw a hyperbola on the map from their data (one parabola of which was discarded because it went inland and the canons were on board British ships).

The key to getting accurate TDOA is (normally) to have perfectly synchronized clocks. Under the relativistic scenarios of the various satellite trajectories this is not physically possible. By accounting for the calculated time dilation during the differencing (subtraction) of one time of arrival from another, the hyperbola can be more accurately "drawn". A third satellite that emits a timestamped pulse - which is also corrected for relativity - is compared to either of the first two and a second hyperbola is "drawn. Where the hyperbolas intersect is where you are. A fourth fix clarifies it and refines it.

You can't get anywhere denying relativity (if that is your intent) without claiming that GPS doesn't work. But that would be absurd. You know it works. Therefore, Einstein was correct.

All of your rhetoric could be cut down to a few simple statements simply by restating the idea directly from Einstein, without the gloss and bluster. Or else simply explain GPS. In either case, we converge to the truth quicker, and much, much more reliably.

20. Originally Posted by Sibilia
How am I going to convince someone that puts before the incoherence into that I think.
Case in point....

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