We live in a physical universe

[Ostronomos]

This cannot be denied.

Thoughts?

[Ostronomos]

This assertion is not to say that there is no meaningful metaphysical aspect to our universe that we don't as yet have any way of knowing. For example:

The physical universe of space, time, matter, and energy has not always existed, but was supernaturally created by a transcendent personal Creator who alone has existed from eternity.

http://www.icr.org/physical-science/

[absolutely]

any must b absolutely to exist, so very much objective since else existence is the way, so reality of each must b clear related to all in order for any to exist out of its true reality

it is not about bein physical but about having to admit else existence rights and true objective existence superiority rights

existence is a right to b, which mean what is right existing first so what is superior objectively and what is enslaved subjectively

[spidergoat]

Interesting response, is that English?

[absolutely]

is the response english, yes of course knowing that english is pointed as world language not from the begining but at the end
then if u believe that from admitting it objectively being true, then u would stop considering english existence while perceiving in english words humans minds

[spidergoat]

Try making sense.

[absolutely]

try to make ur own will, while im never related nor mean any sense

objective facts are absolute things, moron hypocrit

[Aqueous Id]

This cannot be denied.

Thoughts?

Not many, until you said

This assertion is not to say that there is no meaningful metaphysical aspect to our universe that we don't as yet have any way of knowing. For example:

Which is a contradiction. Worse is the cite from ICR which is notorious for its fundamentalist pseudoscience.

Yes, we live in a physical universe and no, "meaning" doesn't attach to physics, only to human sentimentality. And no, the physical universe is not the product of a literal fundamentalist reading of the creation myth. It's the product of nature and nothing more. Fundamentalism, especially as belched out of the beast that calls itself ICR, is a sham, and the tactics ICR uses are utterly dishonest.

ICR is the enemy of knowledge and understanding of Nature. Nothing is to be gained from them, except the recognition of their childish naivete and narcissistic arrogance, coupled with deliberate false and misleading statements about science.

To what end? The statement "We live in a physical universe" is best followed by cites from any credible scientific authority. Pick any standard text from an accredited school or university. Then ask yourself why none of them have anything to offer to support metaphysics, God, the literal interpretation of the Bible, or ICR.

It's gotta be for a reason. Look into this, and you'll find all the meaning you seek.

[Aqueous Id]

try to make ur own will, while im never related nor mean any sense

objective facts are absolute things, moron hypocrit

The point is, if you want people to understand you, you should try to be clear. I can't understand what you are posting.

[absolutely]

it is not a point since u r not making any, using others free expressions to mean smthg is ur ways of proving meaning nothing but urself free pleasures

whatever u need others to post something is ur problem not anyone point

internet forums are existing for whoever can post freely regardless who is there or reading it, while u mean to use forums for free inventions about an environment that do not exist, this is ur problem not a point

like saying look for a reason and u will get it, how that is clear english, moron hypocrit dirty wills

[spidergoat]

Are you using google to translate from Chinese or something?

[absolutely]

what is chinese??? cant he reply by himself?? so u r paid by chinese or u pay to him
and i dont use anything, wat is that google thing u use

[absolutely]

soon hypocrits wont have subjective existence anymore u gonna b all things objects moves only for the best of u

[spidergoat]

Baffling.

[C C]

We live in a physical universe. This cannot be denied. Thoughts?

The concept universe certainly seems physiogenic in terms of origin. Without a noun-making "ism", the adjective physical can imply the characteristics and concrete phenomena of extrospection / external experience. Which thereby also concerns living with the intersubjectively verified bodies located in space that are seen, heard, felt, smelled, tasted (tangible). From whence universe was inferred, to include all of what was not perceived or empirically available. Even when referring to "physics", physical [universe] indicates a cosmos that can be described, experimented upon, and understood in the context of that practice.

[Crunchy Cat]

Baffling.

He is kind of like a foreign word salad bot.

[gmilam]

This assertion is not to say that there is no meaningful metaphysical aspect to our universe that we don't as yet have any way of knowing. For example:



http://www.icr.org/physical-science/

So - you link to "examples" of what "we don't as yet have any way of knowing".

[Ostronomos]

So - you link to "examples" of what "we don't as yet have any way of knowing".

You cannot test for the existence of God or the spirit world.

[gmilam]

You cannot test for the existence of God or the spirit world.

That's probably because they aren't there.

[Ostronomos]

Probably. But maybe they show up occasionally as omens or come to us when summoned. If we are clueless about them they remain hidden. Another view is that they are simply hallucinations or that the universe is intelligent but it contains no place for the dead.