Batman Rising Massacre; At least 14 dead, 50 wounded

[kmguru]

How about actually learning something from the incident?

Carry laser sighted guns at all times. If someone starts shooting, fire at that person's head and be done with...

[Syzygys]

The dude sure looked like on medication or missing his medication in the courtroom today.

[Syzygys]

What is "healthy"?

Not dwelling on a tragedy forever, that is healthy...

Experiencing same shit again and again but doing nothing about it,

You can't outlaw crazy. In China a dude went ona rampage with a KNIFE,...

"FUZHOU, April 28 (Xinhua) -- A man who murdered eight children outside their primary school last month was executed Wednesday in east China's Fujian Province.\
Zheng Minsheng, 42, was shot in Nanping City after the death sentence had been approved by the Supreme People's Court (SPC).
Zheng, a former community doctor, stabbed eight children to death and seriously injured five others on March 23 at the gate of the Nanping Experimental Elementary School."

See? You don't need a machine gun, but you can try and outlaw knives...(of course, it won't work)

Can we do anything to prevent this?

Sure. We can put a policeman next to every citizen.... But I am listening, tell me how we can catch mentally ill people in time...

[joepistole]

Listening to conservative/Republican/Tea Party talk radio this weekend, I heard a number of conservative hosts speak of the potential culpability of the theater owners for making the theater a gun free zone (meaning guns were not allowed in the theater). Frankly I think blaming the theater owners for banning guns on the premise is a bunch of partisan hogwash. And in this case, the carrying weapons by the audience would have been pointless anyway, unless they were packing 50 caliber sniper rifles as the gunman was well protected with body armor.

Republican Congressman Gohmert went further this weekend and claimed the Aurora travesty is the result of ongoing attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1689099.html

“WASHINGTON -- Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) said Friday that the shootings that took place in an Aurora, Colo. movie theater hours earlier were a result of "ongoing attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs" and questioned why nobody else in the theater had a gun to take down the shooter.

During a radio interview on The Heritage Foundation's "Istook Live!" show, Gohmert was asked why he believes such senseless acts of violence take place. Gohmert responded by talking about the weakening of Christian values in the country.” - Huffington Post

[kmguru]

The dude sure looked like on medication or missing his medication in the courtroom today.

I agree...I saw that too. I thought the guy did not know what he did as if it was some other person who was involved...It is like, he wants to die and make sure that is what happens and not bother about any wasted time...

We need to know exactly what messed up his brain for good? And that there are others who will be flipping out too...I think we will see more issues due to bad economy...but time will tell...

[iceaura]

The mentally unstable loner slant is compelling but it does not explain why this culture produces so many examples of the lone terrorizing gunman. I mean the Norwegian massacre was really an anomaly, just as it was in the Finland school massacre, those things NEVER happened, in the US it happens on the regular.

The US has fifty times the population of Norway or Finland. We would expect something that happened every year in the US to happen once or twice per century in Finland or Norway. If it has happened in both those countries within the past twenty years, and not twenty times in the US in the same span, we have a small indication that some factor in Norway and Finland predisposes their young men to flip out like that with comparatively higher frequency.

More likely, the fact that these lone wolf massacres happen as often as they do in Western European countries is evidence that factors unique to the US are not the most likely explanations. And we have many other such indications: the English term "run amok", for example, derives from the language of a culture not even Western.

Here's Wiki on a certainly suggestive sociopathology in the stereotypically calm, tropical, relaxed culture of whom Kipling called "The Lazy People":

Amok originated from the Malay word mengamuk,[4] which roughly defined means “to make a furious and desperate charge”.[5] According to Malay culture, amok was rooted in a deep spiritual belief. They believed that amok was caused by the hantu belian,[6] which was an evil tiger spirit that entered one’s body and caused the heinous act. As a result of the belief, those in Malaysian culture tolerated amok and dealt with the after effects with no ill will towards the assailant.[7]

Although commonly used in a colloquial and less-violent sense, the phrase is particularly associated with a specific sociopathic culture-bound syndrome in Malaysian culture. In a typical case of running amok, a male who has shown no previous sign of anger or any inclination to violence will acquire a weapon, traditionally a sword or dagger, but presently a variety of weapons are used, and in a sudden frenzy, will attempt to kill or seriously injure anyone he encounters. Amok typically takes place in a well populated or crowded area. Amok episodes of this kind normally end with the attacker being killed by bystanders or committing suicide, eliciting theories that amok may be a form of intentional suicide in cultures where suicide is heavily stigmatized.[citation needed] Those who do not commit suicide and are not killed typically lose consciousness, and upon regaining consciousness, claim amnesia.

[Tiassa]

Carry laser sighted guns at all times. If someone starts shooting, fire at that person's head and be done with...

What would that say about the state of our society? One can carry a concealed firearm in Colorado; we can presume either of the following:

(A) Nobody in that theater had undertaken the "responsibility" of obtaining a concealed weapons permit.

(B) Nobody licensed to carry a concealed weapon felt like packing heat while going to the movies, thus shirking their "duty".

I would suggest that it's a sad commentary if Americans need to carry firearms at all times.

To the other, maybe if we reinstituted dueling protocols? And why not?

.....Morrolan left Her Majesty's presence, and, upon leaving the room, found himself face-to-face with Khaavren, who bowed and said, "Two words with you, sir, if you please."
....."Two words?" said Morrolan. "That is not so many. How are they divided?"
....."Why, one each, upon two different subjects."
....."Very well, then, let us hear the first word."
.....However sanguine the Empress may have been about her own safety, Khaavren was required by his post and by his sense of duty to be less so—there were, therefore, a thousand things to arrange, all of them focused on what was now his primary concern: the protection of the Empress.
.....With this in mind, he said, "The first word concerns the posting of my company of guardsman, which I should like to place, for the most part, directly behind your division, but in front of Her Majesty. This will necessarily entail a gap in the ranks sufficient to permit the dust to settle—for, you perceive, Her Majesty cannot be expected to eat the dust kicked up by your infantry.
.....Morrolan, who had never previously considered this matter, said, "Very well, I see no trouble with this. What then?"
....."Then it is only a question of insuring good communication between your division and my corps, so that this gap in the lines cannot be used by anyone thinking to make a direct attack upon Her Majesty, and also of providing certain mounted outriders to guard against the same thing."
....."Very well, I will have Fentor speak with you on this subject. What is your second word?"
....."My second word concerns looks I may have given you on the occasion of our first introduction. It occurs to me that you may have found these offensive and, if so, I will observe that I should wish to delay any discussion of this matter until Her Majesty has arrived safely in Adrilankha."
....."Ah. You wish to play, then?"
.....Khaavren shrugged. "In fact, I do not. I lost interest in such games several hundreds of years ago. But, if you wish to play, I will certainly agree to entertain you."
.....Morrolan frowned. "You must understand, good Captain, that I have not long been in these lands, and, where I was raised, matters are arranged in a rather simpler way."
....."How, then, are they arranged?"
....."If someone offends me, I pass my sword through his body, and then the issue is settled."
....."Well, in fact, sir, I believe there is a great deal to be said in favor of such a custom. It saves time, and is easily managed, and anyone left standing is able to devote his energy to other concerns, rather than considering games to be played in the future. But then—"
....."Well?"
....."The fact that you did not, on that occasion, attempt to run your sword through my body—because I give you my word, I would have noticed if you had—indicates that, perhaps, you did not consider there had been an offense."
....."In fact, I did not. Ought I have?"
....."As to that, I cannot say. Some would, some would not. But I assure you, it has not for an instant crossed my mind that you might be timid."
....."I am glad of that. Because if you did think me timid, well, I should have to endeavor to change your mind. It would grieve me to have someone of your mettle have such an opinion of me, and the esteem in which I hold you would require me to dispatch you at once."
....."I understand entirely, and permit me to thank you for the kind words you have directed to me."
....."You are entirely welcome, sir. And so?"
....."And so, it seems, there is no cause for a quarrel, and that pleases me, because of the admiration I have for all that you have done."
....."You are too kind."
....."Not at all."
....."Farewell, then, Count, and permit me to say that I look forward to speaking with you again."
....."And I, you. Farewell for now."
.....And, with courteous bows, they took their leave, Morrolan to look for Fentor, Khaavren to set about arranging the guard for the Empress's place in the general movement toward Adrilankha.

—Steven Brust

Or maybe Morrolan has a point. Maybe there is too much pomp and procedure about proper dueling.

But to return to a more serious point, if our courtesy in civilized society results strictly from the fear that someone might interpret us wrongly and thus put bullets through us, how civilized are we?
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Notes:

Brust, Steven. The Lord of Castle Black. New York: Tor, 2003.

[quadraphonics]

Carry laser sighted guns at all times. If someone starts shooting, fire at that person's head and be done with...

Yeah, that's a real effective plan against someone who is wearing bulletproof body armor and a ballistic helmet.

Not that I expect the gun nuts to give up on this line of rhetoric, but the sooner we can reduce it to something laughable like "anyone who ventures outside of their heavily-armed survivalist compound deserves the terrible fate they receive!" the better...

[The Esotericist]

No but there were at least huge stressors which created the situation, you know like mass US carpet bombings and shit and a US backed civil war. In the US you guys freak out IN PEACE TIME when there's nothing to worry about but which Hot Pocket to choose from and what ipod to purchase!!!! AND YOU HAVE 500 TV CHANNELS. LOL! See my point?

No, I don't see your point. YOU think that is the worst thing that Americans have to worry about, but quite frankly, it isn't. If you go to Cambodia, take me and my son and I with you, I'll bet the water and the air there aren't poisoned. But the ironic thing is, Cambodia probably has stricter immigration policies than the US does. Here in America, our air and our water is poisoned, with out the consent of the masses. Or if it is with our consent, the majority of the populace actually believe it is in their best interest. Once the chemicals are in the water, it serves to make them more docile, and more receptive to suggestion. That's where mass media, and yes, movies such as this, manipulate the culture. Slavery to debt is our worst problem. Now that problem his bitten us in the ass, and I fear it isn't the last time. As things deteriorate, they will get worse. This is a symptom of the slavery, just as the OWS protests all over the country were symptoms of that same disease.

Can't you see it is a culture in crisis? The perpetrator that caused this massacre actually BELIEVED that this was his only way out because he was failing out of his chosen path in life. If he could not succeed in the endeavor he had started down, he was, according to our culture, doomed. Why? Because our culture has cut the individual off from the community. We sit in our separate dorms, apartments, houses, flats. . . isolated from each other, and what we value are material things, things of status and wealth. These things the shooter was slowly beginning to realize he would never have. Not only would he never have them, but he would forever be in debt. In essence, he would be a slave to the system forever more. So, who really is the criminal here?

Is it the shooter, or is it the society and the makers of that society that have forced people into prisons, into forced slavery of their own making? When we have come to the point where disturbed individuals lose sight of the trees inside the forest, and begin to actually internalize everything they have been taught in their schooling, and begin to believe everything on the tv and the radio, that things and status are more important than the lives of people, what does it matter if he goes out and shoots up a movie theater? He has seen our government do no less to innocent civilians throughout the world, and the perpetrators of those crimes go unpunished. They "protect our freedom." The freedom of Americans to dominate and make money. Property and status is more important than the debt he incurred to finance his education. If he failed at his education? Well, too bad for him, his life means nothing to anybody from now on. Well, now I guess his life does mean something to a lot of people. . . He has made news across the globe, hasn't he? He has shown the sickness of the elites slavery project.

The US is a prison. We can't get out, no one will take us.

[Tiassa]

Republican Congressman Gohmert went further this weekend and claimed the Aurora travesty is the result of ongoing attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs.

He said those things mere hours after the shootings, while the shockwaves were still reverberating.

The weekend brought Gohmert's non-apology. Steve Benen considered the episode earlier today:

The implication was hardly subtle: a madman killed 12 people because Americans separate church and state. Over the weekend, however, Gohmert made an effort to walk back his offensive comments.

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) said Saturday that his controversial comments about the Aurora, Colo., shootings were "grossly taken out of context" and apologized to those whom he may have offended. [...]

"As a father, my heart goes out to those who lost loved ones in this heartless attack. The killings were a senseless, outrageous act," Gohmert said. "Our thoughts and prayers continue for all those so tragically affected, and I am very sorry if my comments caused heartache to anyone in Colorado."

As Gohmert explained it in a statement, he was supposed to be on the radio show to talk about a different subject, but the show switched gears in light of the morning's developments. Apparently, this was supposed to serve as some kind of excuse for the congressman connecting the massacre to "attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs" that exist only in his imagination. It's almost as if he's saying, "I can't be held responsible for the words that came out of my mouth; I'd been prepped to talk about a different subject."

But Gohmert is, well, something of a gomer. He's also one of Bachmann's cohorts in the would-be Crescent Scare. Still, the Aurora comments will definitely be one of his greatest hits. Very possibly number one.

Update: Speaking of Gohmert's Greatest Hits, Texas Democratic consultant Jason Stanford observed today, "if laughter is the best medicine, Congressman Gohmert should be the Surgeon General". Or, in greater detail:

It takes a full-body commitment to stupid to link prayer at graduation to a massacre in a cinema before the families had even buried their dead. But we're talking about a guy who compared letting gays and lesbians serving in the military to putting "the disabled on the front lines" and likened Obama to Hitler for making BP pay to clean up their oil spill. A "measured response" isn't exactly Gohmert's strong suit.

A while back there was a congressman in the Texas Panhandle who tried to explain to an angry town hall audience that he voted for Bill Clinton's 1993 tax increase because he had considered all the facts. Replied one of his angry constituents, "We don't send you to Washington to make intelligent decisions. We send you there to represent us!"

This is how taxpayers end up paying the salaries of yappy little congressmen like Louie Gohmert. Sure, he poops on the carpet, but he's too dim to hate and runs into walls so enthusiastically that you love the poor guy a little. It's hard not to feel affection for a politician who seems so happy to say this on national TV: "With all due deference to Forrest Gump who said life is like a box of chocolates, it's really more like a jar of jalapeños—what you do today can burn you in the rear."

Gohmert is a free-range lunatic, unburdened by the moderating effects of wise counsel. No sticking to the focus-grouped message for Gohmert. Damn the talking points, full stupid ahead.

Crazy Uncle Louie tends toward the alarmist wing of the asylum and is something of an expert in crackpot terrorist schemes. He accused Obama of "trying to create a new jobs bill by allowing terrorism back in New York" and of intervening in Libya in order to deplete our military—stay with me here—so he could call up the secret military that was created by Obamacare.

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Notes:

Benen, Steve. "Gohmert's regrets". The Maddow Blog. July 23, 2012. MaddowBlog.MSNBC.MSN.com. July 23, 2012. http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_new...hmerts-regrets

Stanford, Jason. "Thank God for Louie Gohmert". The Cagle Post. July 23, 2012. Cagle.com. July 23, 2012 http://www.cagle.com/2012/07/thank-g...louie-gohmert/

[Mrs.Lucysnow]

The US has fifty times the population of Norway or Finland. We would expect something that happened every year in the US to happen once or twice per century in Finland or Norway. If it has happened in both those countries within the past twenty years, and not twenty times in the US in the same span, we have a small indication that some factor in Norway and Finland predisposes their young men to flip out like that with comparatively higher frequency.

Dude you can only name one bloody mass murder in Norway. There have been 50 mass murders in the US over a 30 year period and didn't even count serial killershttp://www.motherjones.com/politics/...-shootings-map

Doesn't that strike you as too common an occurrence?

And here was the criteria for making the list:


We used the following criteria to identify incidents of mass murder:

• The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, both of which involved two shooters.)
• The shootings happened during a single incident and in a public place. (Except possibly in the case of a hunter in Meteor, Wisconsin, who killed his victims after a trespassing dispute, and in the case of a party at an apartment complex in Crandon, Wisconsin.)
• The shooter took the lives of at least four people. An FBI crime classification report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—as opposed to a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), and typically in a single location.
• If the shooter died or was hurt from injuries sustained during the incident, he is included in the total victim count.


I mean how many foreigners go so loop-de-loop they dress up like their favorite Hollywood characters? The Matrix and now Batman. Just give it a few more and there can be a whole new category of American stylized mass murder. I myself wouldn't mind perpetrating one myself dressed up as Carrie Bradshaw. Now wouldn't that be novel? Then the politicians can get together and blame the lack of enough wealthy single men or feminism drove her over the edge angle. Not enough liberal programs so she can "have it all". They could even blame the dried up ovaries blues.

I'll be the one in the Christian Loubitan heels and Gucci wedding gown. White of course to highlight the blood stains. "Ohh I'm so excited".

I mean seriously something is wrong.

[Mrs.Lucysnow]

Can't you see this is a culture in crises? The perpetrator that caused this massacre actually BELIEVED that this was his only way out because he was failing out of his chosen path in life. If he could not succeed in the endeavor he had started down, he was, according to our culture, doomed. Why? Because our culture has cut the individual off from the community. We sit in our separate dorms, apartments, houses, flats. . . isolated from each other, and what we value are material things, things of status and wealth. These things the shooter was slowly beginning to realize he would never have. Not only would he never have them, but he would forever be in debt. In essence, he would be a slave to the system forever more. So, who really is the criminal here?

Well yeah I do think its in crises but really what does it say if all you need for a major flip out is a bit of difficulty finding your dream job? I mean he was in a PHD program, he had an apartment, a car, he wasn't desperate. So he's in debt who isn't in debt in the US. The whole bloody country is in debt, that's no reason to go round the bend

Is it the shooter, or is it the society and the makers of that society that have forced people into prisons, into forced slavery of their own making? When we have come to the point where disturbed individuals lose sight of the trees inside the forest, and begin to actually internalize everything they have been taught in their schooling, and begin to believe everything on the tv and the radio, that things and status are more important than the lives of people, what does it matter if he goes out and shoots up a movie theater? He has seen our government do no less to innocent civilians throughout the world, and the perpetrators of those crimes go unpunished. They "protect our freedom." The freedom of Americans to dominate and make money. Property and status is more important than the debt he incurred to finance his education. If he failed at his education? Well, too bad for him, his life means nothing to anybody from now on. Well, now I guess his life does mean something to a lot of people. . . He has made news across the globe, hasn't he? He has shown the sickness of the elites slavery project.

But its been 30 years of individuals rampaging. I'm not saying you're analysis is wrong because I do think this society is in crises and that the crisis is more than just economic. Its economic is Greece, far worse than the US, and yet they will fight with the police, burn down a government building, riot in the street, blow their brains out in a public square in protest of their economic situation and still no one has resorted to mowing down their peers. Which is what's so strange about this, everyone is blaming the economy but he went ahead and killed the everyday man, people like himself taking part in the simple pleasure or an opening night at the movies. So sad. Why is it americans turn on their peers? You see it as everyday dems blame everyday reps. No one blames top tier, hell no one even seems to be aware of top tier.

[iceaura]

Dude you can only name one bloody mass murder in Norway. There have been 50 mass murders in the US over a 30 year period and didn't even count serial killershttp://www.motherjones.com/politics/...-shootings-map

So the US and Norway seem more or less equivalent in their frequency of massacres - providing a similar research job turned up no further massacres in Norway. I didn't bother, because the point was made with the first one.

Doesn't that strike you as too common an occurrence?

Yep. We should definitely look into this phenomenon.

Some cultures see this stuff so frequently they have a special word for it (Malaysia), some cultures don't seem to see it at all (not sure of that, but it seems possible). We might start by looking for correlations.

[kx000]

His plan was this. Return to theatre. <Release gas. <Open fire, killing or harming, shouldn't matter. <Take a hostage. <Using the single hostage order the entire crowd to stop moving, when he would take his held hostage to the center of the crowd and order them to walk most likely binding their hands. <Walking them back to his booby trapped apartment complex for relocation. He had grenades and drums of gasoline, most likely to shoo off police, and the gasoline to burn people alive, until everyone was dead, or he got what he wanted. <Then he would have began to make further demands when he was safe and sound. This is the big potato, I can't escape that feeling.

His philosophy is simple. I take hostages, I get what I want, or they all die. This can happen time and time again, eventually you WILL give in. He didn't get this far.

Simple and plain, a picture is worth a million words.

[The Esotericist]

Well yeah I do think its in crises but really what does it say if all you need for a major flip out is a bit of difficulty finding your dream job? I mean he was in a PHD program, he had an apartment, a car, he wasn't desperate. So he's in debt who isn't in debt in the US. The whole bloody country is in debt, that's no reason to go round the bend

Nice. I like the way you minimize the heart and soul of what it means to be an American. It's ugly, but yeah, there it is. He was a PhD candidate. The rest? Well, that was probably all bought and relied on student loans and grants. Now that his selected career paths is over, what is he left with? Broken dreams and debt? He is not a loser, in societies eyes, he is lost. No fine car, no nice pad, he probably will barely be able to afford an ipod now. Who will be his friends? Will he ever be able to compete for mates that are his intellectual equal? What kind of future could he ever have with medical school debt working at Starbucks? No, I just don't think you can understand the mentality of an unstable American who knows their whole life's worth, their entire social value, their power in society and ability to pay their debt and get credit is a measure of their worth has been reduced to negative till they rot in the grave. I can see where an unstable individual might be compelled to feel worthless at that point.

But its been 30 years of individuals rampaging. I'm not saying you're analysis is wrong because I do think this society is in crises and that the crisis is more than just economic. Its economic is Greece, far worse than the US, and yet they will fight with the police, burn down a government building, riot in the street, blow their brains out in a public square in protest of their economic situation and still no one has resorted to mowing down their peers. Which is what's so strange about this, everyone is blaming the economy but he went ahead and killed the everyday man, people like himself taking part in the simple pleasure or an opening night at the movies. So sad. Why is it americans turn on their peers? You see it as everyday dems blame everyday reps. No one blames top tier, hell no one even seems to be aware of top tier.

Myself? I think it has to do with population dynamics, a culture of violence, the nature of our compulsory education system and the culture of the schooling, the mass media, the fluoride in the water and food, how that effects development and growth, and consequently, the rising discomfort in mental states of the population. They then turn to the pharmaceutical industry which attempts to cure their ills with chemicals, which may work on the vast majority of the populace, but in a small, very small psychotically prone portion, it can have dire results. Americans turn to these drugs more than any other nations, so the odds of this bad reaction are probably greater.

This explanation is the more sober and reasonable of explanations. I am not however naive. I do understand that when incidents like this occur, there is often powerful interests that benefit. It is not until sometime later that we realize what has really gone on. So for that, I suspend judgement. If it were the sixties or seventies, I might be inclined to say, "Did the local authorities find more than one copy of "Catcher in the Rye?" with pages marked or missing?

Of course, these days, they do it to us in movies and music, and it is far more sophisticated.

Here is what the British press reported on the incident (while the American press was censored):

“… an unbelievable and highly classified psy-ops program utilizing ‘Silent Sound’ techniques was successfully deployed. The opportunity to use this method occurred when Saddam Hussein’s military command-and-control system was destroyed. The Iraqi troops were then forced to use commercial FM radio stations to carry encoded commands, which were broadcast on the 100 MHz frequency. The US psy-ops team set up its own portable FM transmitter, utilizing the same frequency, in the deserted city of Al Khafji. This US transmitter overpowered the local Iraqi station. Along with patriotic and religious music, psy-ops transmitted ‘vague, confusing and contradictory military orders and information.

“Subliminally, a much more powerful technology was at work, however. A sophisticated electronic system designed to ‘speak’ directly to the mind of the listener; to alter and entrain his brainwaves, to manipulate his brain’s electroencephalographic (EEG) patterns and thus artificially implant negative emotional states —- feelings of intense fear, anxiety, despair and hopelessness were created in the Iraqi troops. This incredibly effective subliminal system doesn’t just tell a person to feel an emotion, it makes them feel it; it implants that emotion in their minds.”

While utilizing such a “non-lethal” covert psy-ops weapon resulted in many lives being saved, both American, Coalition, as well as Iraqi, the question begs to be asked: how can Americans be assured that such a weapon is not being used on them by “Big Brother” on a daily basis?

http://www.wariscrime.com/2008/12/15...nd-of-silence/


Con Job: Mass Shootings and Pattern Recognition

It is my belief that military software has to recognize this, the anthrax poisonings, other events we miss, the patterns of attacks across Africa and elsewhere.

They see the hand of an organization tasked with building fear and distrust, government, personal safety, dependence, disenfranchisement.

Add rigged elections to this like Scalia brags about whenever he gets near a camera and more pattern emerges.

All this data is subjected to military software and I know for certain that they have these conclusions, know the culprits but may actually also know they may be an integral part of the problem themselves.

Think of the 12 year wars.

Time to stop.

I listened to podcast by the editor of Natural News, he found it a little suspicious that a theater with 70 people didn't rush the guy as he was walking up isles/switching guns/looking for targets, etc. He is an expert on this sort of thing, and he found the whole thing a little odd. His questioning of the event, how it was reported, etc. have me wondering too. I hadn't thought anything about it at first, I just thought it was another nut job. But behind every nut job, there is some serious causal factors usually. And they are usually linked to some powerful people that wish to stay rich and powerful. In this case, probably just pharmaceutical companies, but maybe it's more, who knows. . . .

[madanthonywayne]

DHS has put out a video on how to survive a nutjob shooter:

Run, hide, ......fight

[Fraggle Rocker]

I listened to podcast by the editor of Natural News, he found it a little suspicious that a theater with 70 people didn't rush the guy as he was walking up isles/switching guns/looking for targets, etc.

Huh??? The guy sprayed the place with tear gas before he came in. Everyone was incapacitated. He was the only one wearing a gas mask.

[The Esotericist]

Huh??? The guy sprayed the place with tear gas before he came in. Everyone was incapacitated. He was the only one wearing a gas mask.

See. . when I was listening to his podcast, that was sort of my reaction to it. . . the crowd was sprayed with gas. But I could not find out if the gas was a simple smoke grenade, or tear gas. From most reports I have heard, it makes it sound that it was a simple smoke bomb and people were just, I don't know, confuzzled. How some of them could act to protect loved ones and others not rush him is beyond me.

[Captain Kremmen]

And don't forget your Red Hair Dye. Aisle 23

[youreyes]

Doesn't Wallmart sell guns? I am pretty sure they do.

Anyways the star of Batman Rising showed up at the ceremony