The list is out! Top baby names for 2011 are...

[KilljoyKlown]

Once again my name didn't make these popularity list. If any of you are looking for a name the link will give you the top 1000 names for 2011.

On one of the trending names Declan I heard this name watching some movie or TV program. Does anybody know which program or movie that was?

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The top ten names in 2011

BOYS

1. Jacob
2. Mason
3. William
4. Jayden
5. Noah
6. Michael
7. Ethan
8. Alexander
9. Aiden
10. Daniel

GIRLS

1. Sophia
2. Isabella
3. Emma
4. Olivia
5. Ava
6. Emily
7. Abigail
8. Madison
9. Mia
10. Chloe

Here is the social security administration's list of top trenders:

BOYS

1. Brantley
2. Iker
3. Maximiliano
4. Zaiden
5. Kamden
6. Barrett
7. Archer
8. Declan
9. Atticus
10. Nico

GIRLS

1. Briella
2. Angelique
3. Aria
4. Mila
5. Elsie
6. Nylah
7. Raelynn
8. Brynlee
9. Olive
10. June

[albertjohn]

1=Noah
2=Michael
3=Jayden
in boys are good
1=Sophia
2=Olivia
3=Emily
in girls are good names

[Tero]

I think it's really "cute" when parents name the kids by the city where they were conceived. Like a Vegas and a Sidney we know. Boy and girl. Parents are rich hippies .

[GeoffP]

Once again my name didn't make these popularity list. If any of you are looking for a name the link will give you the top 1000 names for 2011.

On one of the trending names Declan I heard this name watching some movie or TV program. Does anybody know which program or movie that was?

There's a book called The Elements of Style, by a literary pedant called Strunk, and considered highly influential. I know, because I had to read the atrocious thing. It has been described as a "forty-three-page summation of the case for cleanliness, accuracy, and brevity in the use of English." It attacks jargon, improper usage, and colloquialisms from the perspective of the unimaginative and - as I've said - pedantic. Yet, it has its good points also.

So could someone, perhaps, please explain what in the name of Strunk is meant by:

Here is the social security administration's list of top trenders:

I've never been in this position before. I'd never considered it possible that I would actually not understand a phrase written in actual English, with English words. Normally I'm a fan of jargon; my co-authors tell me that all the time. But what the hell can the above mean? How does it differ from the actual list, which is given above it?

[KilljoyKlown]

So could someone, perhaps, please explain what in the name of Strunk is meant by:

I've never been in this position before. I'd never considered it possible that I would actually not understand a phrase written in actual English, with English words. Normally I'm a fan of jargon; my co-authors tell me that all the time. But what the hell can the above mean? How does it differ from the actual list, which is given above it?

Are you referring to "top trenders" ? I believe the SS administration is only measuring how fast some names are moving up on the list of top 1000 names from one year to the next. (It's a trend)

I don't imagine very many people in the U.S. would have had any problem with that phrase and wording.

[KilljoyKlown]

1=Noah
2=Michael
3=Jayden
in boys are good
1=Sophia
2=Olivia
3=Emily
in girls are good names

So you would name your kids with names in the top 10 list? I've heard growing up with a name that's both common and popular can be a problem for the child.

[KilljoyKlown]

I think it's really "cute" when parents name the kids by the city where they were conceived. Like a Vegas and a Sidney we know. Boy and girl. Parents are rich hippies .

I've heard that when criminals choose street names they wish to be called by, cities are a common theme. However I believe Sidney is a popular female name and may have nothing to do with being named after a city.

[Fraggle Rocker]

Once again my name didn't make these popularity list. If any of you are looking for a name the link will give you the top 1000 names for 2011.

It's interesting to look back through old lists, especially the female names. Most modern American parents would name their daughter Turd Blossom before they'd use many of the most popular female names of 100 years ago. Oh wait, I didn't check the list. Perhaps Turd Blossom is on there.

On one of the trending names Declan

I know a man named Declan who is about 35, so it's been around for at least that long. It's the name of an Irish saint from the 5th century so I'm sure it's not uncommon in Ireland. There's been a trend to use names from other nations, and especially Irish names, for quite a while. Sean, for example, the Irish equivalent of "John."

I heard this name watching some movie or TV program. Does anybody know which program or movie that was?

Declan was the daughter's boyfriend on "Kyle XY."

There's a book called The Elements of Style, by a literary pedant called Strunk, and considered highly influential.

Strunk & White. I'm a professional writer and editor so I probably have it memorized.

I know, because I had to read the atrocious thing. It has been described as a "forty-three-page summation of the case for cleanliness, accuracy, and brevity in the use of English." It attacks jargon, improper usage, and colloquialisms from the perspective of the unimaginative and - as I've said - pedantic. Yet, it has its good points also.

It was written in 1918 and widely published in 1959. Although it's been revised a few times, it is still a bit old-fashioned. A good writer knows which parts to accept as gospel and which are merely good suggestions that could stand to be rewritten for the Post-Industrial Era. As for "pedantic," all I can say about using that word for a book written by a writer for writers is, "Duh?"

So could someone, perhaps, please explain what in the name of Strunk is meant by:

Here is the social security administration's list of top trenders

I don't understand what about this sentence throws you off so I may not be able to give you the best possible answer, but I'll try.

First off, the Social Security Administration is a U.S. government agency so it should be capitalized. Perhaps that alone will help, because now it's clear that this list was complied by the arm of the U.S. government that attempts to maintain a record on every U.S. citizen and everyone else who works here (legally). They keep track of births and deaths so they are the first ones to know which names were given to all babies in the previous year--at least those who were not born off the grid in a camouflaged polygamist compound in the Southwest fifty miles from civilization.

"Top trender" is the writer's term, certainly not official bureaucratese. If a million boys are named "Rocky" in one year (without even looking that up, I'm positive it must have happened after the movie was released), that pretty much automatically defines a trend.

I've never been in this position before. I'd never considered it possible that I would actually not understand a phrase written in actual English, with English words. Normally I'm a fan of jargon; my co-authors tell me that all the time. But what the hell can the above mean?

I would guess that you were confused by the words "social security administration" in lower case. This could imply that you're not firmly connected to the grid yourself, since it's an agency we all deal with every payday when they take a deduction from our paychecks--or at my age once a month when they give it back but without the interest it would have earned if we had been allowed to manage our own retirement accounts.

How does it differ from the actual list, which is given above it?

It is the actual list. It's just somebody's cutesy name for it. You used the phrase "trending name" yourself, so you ought to understand what they meant by "top trenders."

As I said, please forgive me if I didn't understand or answer your question.

[Syzygys]

If any of you are looking for a name the link will give you the top 1000 names for 2011.

What is the difference between the 2 lists?

[KilljoyKlown]

What is the difference between the 2 lists?

The top 10 list are simply the names used most often in 2011. The top trenders list are the names moving up the most in popularity. Example: in 2010 a name in position 700 moves to position 300 in 2011. That name is moving up the list fast and may actually become a real top 10 name in the next few years.

[KilljoyKlown]

"Declan was the daughter's boyfriend on "Kyle XY.

I have never watched that program, so I must have heard it somewhere else.

First off, the Social Security Administration is a U.S. government agency so it should be capitalized. Perhaps that alone will help, because now it's clear that this list was complied by the arm of the U.S. government that attempts to maintain a record on every U.S. citizen and everyone else who works here (legally). They keep track of births and deaths so they are the first ones to know which names were given to all babies in the previous year--at least those who were not born off the grid in a camouflaged polygamist compound in the Southwest fifty miles from civilization.

I copy and pasted that title as it was in the article, so if it was wrong, I didn't really give it a second thought.

[GeoffP]

Are you referring to "top trenders" ? I believe the SS administration is only measuring how fast some names are moving up on the list of top 1000 names from one year to the next. (It's a trend)

I don't imagine very many people in the U.S. would have had any problem with that phrase and wording.

Then I am glad to be a horrible alien.

So a "trender" is one moving up in frequency, year-to-year? I contrast this with Fraggle, below:

Strunk & White. I'm a professional writer and editor so I probably have it memorized.It was written in 1918 and widely published in 1959. Although it's been revised a few times, it is still a bit old-fashioned. A good writer knows which parts to accept as gospel and which are merely good suggestions that could stand to be rewritten for the Post-Industrial Era. As for "pedantic," all I can say about using that word for a book written by a writer for writers is, "Duh?"

Bah. It's pedantic. Or possibly I'm just bitter.

"Top trender" is the writer's term, certainly not official bureaucratese. If a million boys are named "Rocky" in one year (without even looking that up, I'm positive it must have happened after the movie was released), that pretty much automatically defines a trend.I would guess that you were confused by the words "social security administration" in lower case. This could imply that you're not firmly connected to the grid yourself, since it's an agency we all deal with every payday when they take a deduction from our paychecks--or at my age once a month when they give it back but without the interest it would have earned if we had been allowed to manage our own retirement accounts.It is the actual list. It's just somebody's cutesy name for it.

I assure you that my forest shack is firmly on the grid. I have the entire grid of landmines plotted out exactly.

Well, almost all of them.

Actually it's the conflict that appears to occur between the 2011 list of top baby names via Social Security - which surely must be those in 2011, and thereby the most recent complication? - versus the top trenders. Are the trenders a new set of names that hasn't been compiled into the previous list? 2012+? The last few weeks? The last few months? What interval are we talking about? Is it reasonable to conclude such a radical shift in top names - note, not one in common with 2011 and 3/4 of them wildly off the "WTF were on when you named this kid" scale - over whatever period exists between the 2011 list and today? Is it, thereby, coming also from Social Security? It's all madness.

You used the phrase "trending name" yourself, so you ought to understand what they meant by "top trenders."

That was Killjoy's source, not me.

As I said, please forgive me if I didn't understand or answer your question.

The mystery only deepens.

[Syzygys]

Example: in 2010 a name in position 700 moves to position 300 in 2011. That name is moving up the list fast and may actually become a real top 10 name in the next few years.

OK, thanks. Although it is possible that even such a relative big move means only a small move in absolute numbers. Example: in 2010 the name had 12K people, and in 2011 it had 13K people. But that 1 K increase meant a 400 place position jump.

Also trending can be very shortlived, so I wouldn't put too much into that.

[GeoffP]

The top 10 list are simply the names used most often in 2011. The top trenders list are the names moving up the most in popularity. Example: in 2010 a name in position 700 moves to position 300 in 2011. That name is moving up the list fast and may actually become a real top 10 name in the next few years.

Ah, I see. Still evil language tho. "Trenders".

[KilljoyKlown]

Ah, I see. Still evil language tho. "Trenders".

I can sympathize with your position on this issue, but I understand the intended communication as I'm sure most everybody else did, and as long as I understand, I'm not going to be to picky about it.

[GeoffP]

I only have one question: what happened to the word "increasing"?

[Syzygys]

I only have one question: what happened to the word "increasing"?

Its usage decreased...

[Fraggle Rocker]

I only have one question: what happened to the word "increasing"?

"Trend" has more connotations than "increase." It usually implies human causation. Temperature can increase, but the popularity of country music can trend.

[GeoffP]

Its usage decreased...

I think you mean "trended downwards". Speak English, for God's sake.

"Trend" has more connotations than "increase." It usually implies human causation. Temperature can increase, but the popularity of country music can trend.

Or human involvement, I suppose. In the recent vernacular. But don't you see this is what I'm trying to rail against? The revolution will not be grammar-checked.

[quadraphonics]

The revolution will not be grammar-checked.

It's been suggested that English grammar and spelling were only ever standardized in the first place because of practical considerations involving printing and distribution of books in the pre-electronic era. The implication being that modern infrastructure has rendered those concerns moot, and that we should expect a renewed bifurcation of English usage commiserate with that. So, be thankful we aren't already reduced to nothing but LOLspeek already, I say...