Duality becoming-time

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  1. Asexperia Valued Senior Member

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    DUALITY BECOMING-TIME (B-T)

    The becoming is the continuous series of changes.

    The time is the successive extension of phenomenons.

    The duration is the quantitative measurement of time.

    In the Duality B-T, as the becoming as the time are objective, but their measurement (duration) es an (subjective) entity. We perceive the becoming in changes and the time like an illusion, but is objective, it depends of the extension of phenomenons. We use clocks and calendars to adjust ourselves to the constant flow of the becoming.

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    I like the way you think

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    . Perception of reality is but a faculty for recognizing phenomena, which encourages the survival of the organism.
     
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    Bergson and the duality b-t

    Thanks a lot Mr K.


    BERGSON AND THE DUALITY B-T

    Let’s see the following points:

    1) The Bergson’s duration is the Sibilia’s becoming.

    2) Sibilia and Bergson agree with the concept of time: abstract and mathematical.

    3) For Bergson the duration is the real time of the conscience. Here, we disagree because the becoming is objective and generates the illusion of time.

    4) Although, we intuit the becoming, this is not exclusive of the conscience.

    5) The Bergson’s negation of the time it was not just right. The time must be consider as a convenience.

    ORIGIN OF THE DUALITY B-D

    Arrived the moment to consider the time as an illusion, the definition of this concept lead us to the becoming. An illusion is the distorted interpretation for a perceived stimulus really. This stimulus is the becoming. So, the becoming plus its perception (illusion) conform the duality B-T.
     
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    Thanks robitty, but in this website we call the Duality becoming-time (B-T) instead of becoming-duration (B-D). I have revised the ideas.
     
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    THE LAW D = ∆GT, X

    This law makes older to a being. They read as: duration is equal to the gradual increment of the time since x. The unknown value x is the moment of beginning to count the duration. X can be the hour, the date or a specific year. A grade is each one of the divisions of a scale adapted to an instrument. This means that in the duration we have to pass for each one of the values to a constant rhythm. We obtain the duration starting from an uniform rhythm, and this is divided into units. The displacement is ∆d (distance) and the acceleration is ∆s (speed).

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    Let’s see the following examples (uses of x):

    a) 2 hours = ∆gt, 9:00 AM of today.

    b) 3 days = ∆gt, 02-18-2011.

    c) 20 years = ∆gt, 1985 aC
     
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    THE TIME ACCORDING TO ISAAC NEWTON

    "Absolute, true, and mathematical time, in and of itself and of its own nature, without reference to anything external, flows uniformly and by another name is called duration. Relative, apparent, and common time is any sensible and external measure (precise or imprecise) of duration by means of motion; such a measure - for example, an hour, a day, a month, a year - is commonly used instead of true time." -Principia

    According to our conceptual thinking the absolute time agrees with the regular becoming and the relative time agrees with the duration (quantitative measurement of time). In this sense the duration is an abstract concept (mathematical). Newton didn’t refer himself to the irregular becoming.
     
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    Rhythm and destiny

    RHYTHM AND DESTINY

    The rhythm is necessary or casual management in the occurrence of events. For thousands of years man had understood that there is a rhythm of time. The man followed the rhythm of time thanks to the Sun (the day always follows night) and the rhythm of the seasons. Another sense of the word rhythm is the speed at which something develops.

    "In nature, rhythm is said to exist in the infinite series of activities such as sleeping and waking, nutrition and reproduction that govern the existence of all living things. These activities are often closely related to the rhythmic processes of geophysical phenomena such as ocean tides, the solar day, the lunar month and the changing seasons. The flow rate is controlled or measured movement, sound or visual, usually produced by an arrangement of different elements of the medium in question. Rhythm is a basic feature of all the arts, especially music, poetry and dance. Can also be detected in natural phenomena. "

    The destiny is defined as the concatenation of events must have occurred to a person or a society. These developments are shaping the subconscious mind in the case of the people and history in the case of societies.
    The ability of the prophets is to identify these linkages, and therefore are ahead of their time. But this ability is subject to errors due to false beliefs behind the prophet.
    "The destiny (also called fate) is inevitable and unavoidable supernatural power that is believed to guide human life and that of any being chosen for a purpose not so necessary and fatal, as opposed to free will or freedom."

    In conclusion:

    1) The destiny is equivalent to the personal and social rhythm of an individual.

    2) The duration is only measured the extent of the phenomena, the rate is recorded as TAO or total activity occurred.

    3) An elementary form of rhythm is the alpha and omega, the birth and death.

    4) The destiny comprises 50% of free will and 50% of the circumstances.
     
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    TYPES OF RHYTHM

    1 - Natural

    Astronomical and Physical: day and night, seasons, phases of the moon. These are periodical cycles.

    Biological: the vital development of an individual.

    2 - Artificial

    Grammar: the spoken and written language.

    Math: Numbers and the graduated scale of watches.

    Aesthetic: the metric (poetry), musical notes, novels and movies. The latter two correspond to the imaginary target.


    RELATION BETWEEN THE CHRONOLOGY AND PHILOCHRONY

    "Chronology (from the Greek chronos,"time"and logos,"study") is the science which aims to identify the temporal order of historical events, is part of the discipline of history. The concept is also used in other areas of knowledge to relate historical facts in chronological order.
    No event in history that does not arise from others that have preceded and not come be a source of other more or less important.
    All great civilizations have adopted various methods, using the course of the heavenly bodies, to measure time.
    The varying success of this operation is more or less depended on the respective people advance in astronomical knowloedge. Also have influenced the calculation of the days, months and years, religion, historians and even the political habits and civil rights of people."

    First, the chronology as a tool of history, is social. The chronology orders social facts, but not within its jurisdiction the nature and measure of time. The Philochrony classifies things according to their duration, does not establish an order of occurrence between them. Philochrony also offers an explanation of the nature of time with the duality becoming-time.
     
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    HENRI BERGSON AND THE PHILOCHRONY

    Henri Bergson, French philosopher (1859-1941). Nobel Prize for Literature in 1927. He made the intuition the only method to get to the knowledge of the duration of the facts of consciousness and life. Bergson rejects the physical-mathematical time, which the time is a result of a previous abstract spatialization, just a succession of static moments. In the inner self, the states of consciousness melted and organized in a unit that is not spatial, but has the characteristics of the duration: continuous succession that links this with the past.

    If Bergson had not rejected the concept of time (magnitude of the future) perhaps would have coincided with us on the concept of the duality B-T. Because just as Bergson thinking we thought that the duration is a intuitive concept, a mathematical mnemonic-intelligible entity. Although we sense time as an interval, this is a concrete concept.
    The individual constructs the duration based on the insights it has had on the different periods of time. I have an intellectual or pure intuition over a period and this is retained in memory structuring chromnesias.
    Thus, the passage of the years in our lives we built our intuitions. That is because we affirm that the duration is a mnemonic-intelligible mathematical entity.
     
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    RELATIVITY OF DURATION

    INSTANT AND MOMENT

    What is the difference between an instant and a moment?
    The instant is zerodimensional, is the point in time. The moment is short or very short period in relation (relativity) to a longer period, for example, the second is a moment in relation to a day, the day is a moment in relation to a year and the year is a moment in relation to a period or history. Time is imperceptible because it flows from instant to instant.

    The types of moment are:

    One: second:day or s:d
    Two: day:year or d:y
    Three: year;period or y;p
    Four: Millennium:big-bang or m:bb

    Actualy, the duality B-T flows from instant to instant, but into the subject this duality flows from moment to moment.

    The uses of the duration scales are:

    1 - second:day. It is used in the daily activities of home, school and work.
    2 - day:year. Corresponds to the Meteorology, the Sociology and Journalism.
    3 - year;period. Used in History and Anthropology.
    4 - Millennium:big-bang. This is used in Astronomy, Cosmology and Astrology.

    The four scales are used in both Physics and Philosophy.
     
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    FORMULAS OF THE DURATION

    1 - The formula d = Δgt, x. The duration is equal to the gradual increase of time since the moment x.

    2 - R x:y, relation of x in y, where x is the moment and "y" is the period of time. R x:y is the abbreviation of the four scales of the duration. Thus, using this formula we think that the moment must associated with a longer time.

    THE METACHRONY

    The metachrony, beyond time, is the figure representing the duration, it is a mathematical entity. The metachrony is a static figure, but it helps to the subject to be at a certain moment in the becoming-time.

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    Henri Bergson is our favorite thinker.

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    WHAT MEANS 2 PETER 3:8?

    Reina Valera Gómez (© 2010)
    But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.


    This verse does not refer to time measured by a clock, but the duration as we have discussed in
    this topic. The time as magnitude is very rigid, but the duration is flexible. This verse is a
    application of the metachrony.

    FROM THE ILLUSION TO THE MATHEMATICAL ENTITY

    Mankind has always perceived changes or phenomena of reality (becoming) and has also learned that
    they have an extension (time), which is a product of illusion continuous succession of moments.
    We all know the efforts made to establish or specify the time from sundials or sand.
    With the pendulum clock (second) manages to give "shape" the illusion of time. With metachrony
    moving from a mnemonic illusion to a mathematical entity.
     
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    DUALITY B-T (IMAGE)

    After the raid on the duration and metachrony retook again the concept of becoming-time or B-T. The joint definition of this concept is the continuous succession of changes subject to a certain pattern (direction). For B-T has must be rhythm. In an image or photograph there is not rhythm. The rhythm is the necessay or casual ordination in the occurence of events. For thousands of years man had understood that there is a rhythm of time. The man followed the rhythm of time thanks to the Sun (the day always follows night) and the rhythm of the seasons. Another sense of the word rhythm is the speed at which something develops.
    We're all going in the same direction, some went before, others after.
    The becoming only has one way: time.

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    IN THE RIVER: The water is the becoming and its course the time.
     
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    Here isn’t a problem – you compare two different things. The Time/time is universal absolute rule/ possibility that governs over whole Set’s “Information” informational processes totally, when It states that in some logical chain the cause is always before ("earlier") then the effect. At that "time interval" appears – when in the Set any informational exchange happens instantly, so corresponding time interval is infinitesimal, but the interval is never equal to zero exactly.

    In Matter by some reasons, the observed time intervals aren’t infinitesimal (so maximal speed of informational exchanges is limited). Why that is so? – that is a next problem, but it is non-essential in this case.

    So "Time/ time" cannot "change" at all. As that is more evident for its [in certain sense, but for Matter rather good] analogue – for the rule/ possibility “Space/ space”. In Matter only material objects change ("are becoming")– and, since all the objects, including clocks and, e.g., humans’ bodies, are changing constantly (Great computer "Matter" never stops in any Its subroutines, including, e.g., in elementary particles) – this process a human calls "time flow". Or this process is seemed as “a becoming flow”- if human doesn’t look at a clock. Why the Computer never stop? – that is an other question again, but again in this case it isn’t essential. Note only, that any material process passes "without friction", so to go on for [very] long time it is enough, for example, to transmit to Matter some energy at Beginning only.

    More – see http://arxiv.org/abs/1110.0003 and http://arxiv.org/abs/0707.4657 , V3.
    It may be useful also to see http://arxiv.org/abs/1004.3712 and a thread on a forum “1/0”

    http://www.thescienceforum.com/physics/19552-1-0-a.html
    (The thread is spammed, so it is enough to read posting "SSDZ – Guitarist")

    Cheers
     
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    time is the translation of truth and freedom gaps
    that is why it is the idea of becoming as it will b adjusted right and according to objective and subjective rights

    till then, what u see is what u didnt realize while u must admit its superior existence facts and respect of its own rights but also what is u that must be understood and kept out as being urself freedom rights so ur legitimate existence ways

    existence is bc of the else recognition rule becoming absolute

    so for any there is its true reality which is objective always and its freedom rights which is then by definition plural

    logically one day some entities even abstract will confirm existence right, by quickly moving to point what is else what is real and what is owned
    so reality then would b of true existence and not time

    ones limits would be clearly bc of reality and else
     
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    THE ENTROPY AND THE DUALITY B-T

    In the entropy the heat goes from the hot body to the cold body in only one direction.

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    DUALITY B-T MODIFIED

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    ANALOGY LIGHT : DURATION

    "Wave–particle duality postulates that all particles exhibit both wave and particle properties. A central concept of quantum mechanics, this duality addresses the inability of classical concepts like "particle" and "wave" to fully describe the behavior of quantum-scale objects. Standard interpretations of quantum mechanics explain this paradox as a fundamental property of the Universe, while alternative interpretations explain the duality as an emergent, second-order consequence of various limitations of the observer. This treatment focuses on explaining the behavior from the perspective of the widely used Copenhagen interpretation, in which wave–particle duality is one aspect of the concept of complementarity, that a phenomenon can be viewed in one way or in another, but not both simultaneously".

    From wikipedia

    So we have suggested that the duration is also a duality: becoming-time. The duration is the stay or course of events in reality. Becoming is the inherent property of matter to experience changes. no a cause for the becoming, nor be deprived the matter of this property. Therefore the becoming is absolute. Time is the rhythm or speed, in one sense, that phenomena and events occur. We refer to a steady and conventional rhythm (watches) to measure the duration of events. The rhythm of time can be variable, this is regarded as relative.

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    Image of the wave-particle duality, in which you can see how the same phenomenon may have two different perceptions.

    DURATION = DUALITY BECOMING-TIME (ABSOLUTE-RELATIVE)
     

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