Game Called 5 Dice

**scheherazade** · 04-09-12, 08:33 PM

Well, my averages are getting higher by scrutinizing the patterns before playing them.

I looked at 10 games today and played three of them.

One was just under 57,000.

The second was 57,850 and the one I played just now was 58,150.

Your record remains safe for the moment Captain.

**scheherazade** · 04-10-12, 02:21 AM

I played a pattern that didn't look particularly promising but something to do just before retiring.

Shiver me timbers, Captain, but I was rather startled by the outcome.

**Captain Kremmen** · 04-10-12, 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by scheherazade

I played a pattern that didn't look particularly promising but something to do just before retiring.

Well done.
That 60K is not far off now.

**Captain Kremmen** · 04-10-12, 09:53 AM

I've made a 58380, but that's it.
My second best score.

Added later.
No better. A couple of 57Ks.

That was quite a big jump in score.
It might take some beating.

I wonder if there is something in the algorithm other than randomness.
It seems to take quite a while to work out the numbers.
About a couple of seconds.

**Captain Kremmen** · 04-14-12, 06:35 AM

Can't beat your score Shez.
I'm still wondering if the numbers are completely random.
I would have expected a 60K plus by now.
I've come close, scoring a 58,180 with the final score being a double pair.
If I'd had the full house, I'd have been over 59K.

Looks like that score of yours won't be beaten for a while.
New challenge.
Best 3 games in a row.

Rules.
Total score is the addition of 3 consecutive scores..
Note down your scores as you play.
If things start going badly, you can abandon the attempt, but the score for that game is zero.
Effectively, you must start completely afresh.

**gmilam** · 04-14-12, 09:33 AM

To get 60K, you're going to have to avg 3750 per move.

5 of a kinds are worth from 4050 to 4300.
4 of a kinds are worth ~3600 to ~3800.
Full houses ~3070 to ~3280.
Straights ~2700.

So you're going to have to get a LOT of 5 of a kinds to break 60K.

**Captain Kremmen** · 04-14-12, 01:11 PM

You need to be scoring 5's and 4's virtually every play, with high numbered dice, and then finish off with at least a couple of full houses.
You would need a very lucky selection of tiles to do it.

Regardless,
If a million people were playing it, you would be getting a few every minute.

My best 3 in a row, is
54360
53450
55320

Score to beat 163110

**KilljoyKlown** · 04-14-12, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Captain Kremmen

You need to be scoring 5's and 4's virtually every play, with high numbered dice, and then finish off with at least a couple of full houses.
You would need a very lucky selection of tiles to do it.

Regardless,
If a million people were playing it, you would be getting a few every minute.

Yes it's a numbers game. It would be interesting to see a bell curve on a million games. I would bet that getting those last few hundred points to make 60,000 are very rare indeed. Not only do you have to have the luck of a good starting configuration, you must also be a very good player.

**scheherazade** · 04-15-12, 01:30 AM

Originally Posted by Captain Kremmen

You need to be scoring 5's and 4's virtually every play, with high numbered dice, and then finish off with at least a couple of full houses.
You would need a very lucky selection of tiles to do it.

Regardless,
If a million people were playing it, you would be getting a few every minute.

My best 3 in a row, is
54360
53450
55320

Score to beat 163110

Hmmmm......I need 52,390 to meet that. Only had time for two games today. I'll see what score I get when I am winding down after shift.

**Captain Kremmen** · 04-15-12, 03:14 AM

Originally Posted by KilljoyKlown

Yes it's a numbers game. It would be interesting to see a bell curve on a million games. I would bet that getting those last few hundred points to make 60,000 are very rare indeed. Not only do you have to have the luck of a good starting configuration, you must also be a very good player.

I'd like to see that too.
I don't think it's a classic bell curve. (could be wrong)

I'll see what my own curve is,
by recording my scores on 50 consecutive games, playing as well as I can.
Then I'll make a graph, and post it.

A better player should be similar but shifted to the right, and the contrary for a worse player.

It is a fascinating game.
We are playing a very simple version of the game here, but it is still interesting.

A game where two players took turns on the same grid would be very skillful.

**scheherazade** · 04-15-12, 04:45 PM

I played my third game today.
54,970.

Yesterday I played 56,840 and 53,880.

Three game total of 165,690.

I played these three games in succession.

I did not play three patterns as offered by the game back-to-back. I looked at and rejected about ten boards that did not look worth playing. I won't engage unless something about the pattern offers inspiration.

Not sure if this meets the criteria you stated above.

It would be great fun if we could both play the same pattern and compare outcomes.

**Captain Kremmen** · 04-15-12, 07:05 PM

The total of three games played in succession.
No games intervening.

Say you played 6 games.
1. 55K
2. Abandoned, or rejected as not worth playing. Counts as 0.
3. 55K
4. 58K
5. 53K
6. 49K

Your best result would be total of 3,4 and 5, equals 166K
not 1, 2 and 4 which would equal 168K, because they are not in succession.

If you played 3 and 4 in the morning, and game 5 at midnight, that would be fine.

**scheherazade** · 04-15-12, 10:00 PM

If you expect me to play the game boards in the order presented, not a chance.

I am getting a pretty good eye for any pattern that will play 53,000 or more.

If I look at several patterns in a row and they aren't going to make the grade, I'm not going to play them. I have only abandoned one pattern that I started, just too tired to care and shut down the computer and went to bed.

Spring is here and I have less time for such matters. I think I shall play one game per day, a pattern of my choosing, and see if I ever reach 60,000.

Perhaps KJ will take up the challenge or maybe someone else following this thread....

**Captain Kremmen** · 04-16-12, 04:35 AM

I see you are a driven woman.
Try Blocky.
http://www.brainbashersgames.com/games/blocky.asp
Best score. 4591. First go.

13993. Second go
17813. Third go. I'm a rank D now.
22657 Fourth go. Rank B
31541 Fifth go. Rank A

**scheherazade** · 04-16-12, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by Captain Kremmen

I see you are a driven woman.
Try Blocky.
http://www.brainbashersgames.com/games/blocky.asp
Best score. 4591. First go.

13993. Second go
17813. Third go. I'm a rank D now.
22657 Fourth go. Rank B
31541 Fifth go. Rank A

Hardly 'driven', lol.....

I just don't believe in flogging a dead horse. If a game has little potential, it's a waste of my time and effort and provides no feedback gratification.

I played two games last night and one this morning, once again selecting from about 10 boards overall.

56,110 55,960 56,590

There seems to be a pattern that approximately 30% of the boards have potential to score over 53,000 and apparently my eye for selecting is getting better.

I don't choose by looking for the blocks of five.

I look for where the problems are going to be in dealing with the isolated dice.

Can they be moved into a full house or four of a kind position?

I think I have only played one straight in the last 10 games and only once got stuck with just one pair at the end. I knew that might be a problem but I decided to try that game anyway.

Thanks for the suggestion of the game Blocky. I shall check that out at a future date as my 'pointless activities' time is currently all in use.

I may be slightly obsessive compulsive about small details but I don't think I qualify as 'driven'. Many small challenges and problems do I keep in reserve on the back burner and come back to amuse myself with them on occasion.

For that reason I enjoy on-line chess with a limit of 7 days per move and I have always enjoyed Scrabble as a diversion, even against the computer.

Most of my time, though, I spend in more physical outdoor pursuits, working with the horses, yard maintenance and gardening.

**Captain Kremmen** · 04-16-12, 10:48 AM

The trouble with the game in this form is that it is limited.
Once you reach a fair level of expertise, you would not find it difficult to get over 60K, if you had the right starting grid.

As this is a matter of chance rather than skill, your attempts to get over 60K are similar to someone throwing 6 dice, hoping to land all on sixes.
A bit of a waste of time.
Having said that, I would like to get such a score myself, and I've wasted far more time in the attempt than you have yourself.

Much more skillful would be to compete with someone faced with the same starting grid, to see who gets the highest score.

Or for two opponents to take turns scoring from the same grid.
That game would be quite challenging, as you would have not only to score your own points, but leave your opponent with the poorest grid possible.

Unfortunately those options aren't available.

There is no evidence on the site as to who wrote the game.
If there was, I would get in touch with them.

**scheherazade** · 04-16-12, 11:33 AM

You have summarized the matter quite nicely, Captain.

I also did a search to see if I could find the highest game score posted, to no avail.

The idea of playing an opponent on the same grid sounds like it could be fun.

Not unlike pool or billiards, where you want to score but also leave your opponent tough if you lose your turn.

**scheherazade** · 04-16-12, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by gmilam

To get 60K, you're going to have to avg 3750 per move.

5 of a kinds are worth from 4050 to 4300.
4 of a kinds are worth ~3600 to ~3800.
Full houses ~3070 to ~3280.
Straights ~2700.

So you're going to have to get a LOT of 5 of a kinds to break 60K.

Thank you for posting the handy reference table, gmilam.

Have you played the game?

If so, what's the best score you have attained?

**KilljoyKlown** · 04-16-12, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Captain Kremmen

I see you are a driven woman.
Try Blocky.
http://www.brainbashersgames.com/games/blocky.asp
Best score. 4591. First go.

13993. Second go
17813. Third go. I'm a rank D now.
22657 Fourth go. Rank B
31541 Fifth go. Rank A

Sense you came up with a new game which requires a high degree of mouse control. I thought I'd find another one that's more mental and I came up with

http://www.thegamehomepage.com/play/3-slices/

The object is to remove as much red as specified by the required percentage at the bottom. I made it to the 14th screen before I've not been able to get past the problem. If anybody can figure the solution let me know.

**scheherazade** · 04-16-12, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by KilljoyKlown

Sense you came up with a new game which requires a high degree of mouse control. I thought I'd find another one that's more mental and I came up with

http://www.thegamehomepage.com/play/3-slices/

The object is to remove as much red as specified by the required percentage at the bottom. I made it to the 14th screen before I've not been able to get past the problem. If anybody can figure the solution let me know.

An interesting game in that comes with it's own video tutorials I observe, therefore it may be considered more challenging for most.

Do the patterns stay the same at each level or are they variable?

Is it a constantly changing challenge or one that can eventually be overcome by trial and error and learned by rote?

I'm a bit short of time to investigate for myself and thought you might have already made these observations.