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04-29-12, 12:40 AM #41Registered Member
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ok hold on a second
the mind body problem that is being alluded to at the beginning of the post is how can we prove that any "body" exists outside of the mind (assuming that the world is all a dream and that everything is a result of our mind sensing certain properties). This is the Cartesian problem and he never solves it. To those using scientific empirical data to explain the answer, I say that you are barking up the wrong tree. The question is how do we tell anything is really real? by using the perceptions that are understood through the mind, you further prove that there is only a mind feeling and that there really might not be any body. Another way of looking at it is that science seeks to always explain why. It in essence is an infinite regress because all it ever tell is the previous cause. It never gets to an ultimate cause because it is all based on how we perceive the cause. This is getting into a Humeric philosophy now. The answer to the mind body problem is that there is no legitimate answer because we are all stuck in our own sensing perspective and that we are only able to understand the world through our MIND'S senses (which scientists agree is essentially electrical signals). Argument against mine: "but wait you are using science to explain why science isn't the answer." My response: yes but that is only to make it understandable. the essential point is that our mind (or soul or whatever existential term you wanna call it) is something that we understand the world through, but because it is only how WE perceive the world and NOT how the world ACTUALLY is, we can never answer the mind body problem. That spoon of sugar tastes sweet is only how I PERCEIVE sugar to taste based on my SENSES (which are fallable). It does not tell me anything about sugar outside of my senses because I don't know anything true of the world outside of my senses.
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