M. Merah / Forsane-Alizza Arab Islamic racist 'school massacre'

[Badawiout]

Jihadi 'racial hatred':
Forsane Alizza - Mohammed Merah: French "Jewish school massacre." March 19, 2012

A racist{1}{2}{3}{4}{5}{6} Arab-Muslim murders a Rabbi and 3 children outside Jewish school in Toulouse, France. - He took aim at victims and chased some into schoolyard.{7} - He shot at such close range that the gunfire burned the skin.{8} - The killer got off his motor bike to grab an eight-year-old girl and shoot her in the head. He picked her up -as she was bleeding- shot her in the head again, to make sure she died.{9} - He also filmed{10} his crimes for sick-kicks.{11}

Muslim fanatic... was so proud of his unspeakably evil work that he uploaded sickening video to the Internet showing him executing a helpless, terrified 8-year-old girl... Mohammed Merah is seen yanking Myriam Monsenego by her hair - then firing a bullet into her head while he holds her... Pure Evil: Mohammed Merah.{12}

- The sadistic Arab-Muslim felt 'endless pleasure' during school massacre... wished he could have killed more.{13} His 'Very proud' brother of Merah charged after explosives found in his car.{14} Abdelkader Merah: "I'm proud he executed those 3 kids."{15}

- The Arab Muslim, Mohammed Merah, was affiliated with 'al-Qaida' and (Sharia pusher{16}) 'Forsane Alizza.'{17} Dedicated to strict implementation of Sharia, to abolish demoratic regimes and replacing them with Islamic ones, and to 'restore the Caliphate.'{18}

According to Forsane Alizza, the return of the Caliph is the only way for the Muslim community to regain a safe living environment.{19}

WSJ explains: 'The Jihadist was no lone wolf.' He was practically a prince in violent extremist circles.{20}

'Forsane Alizza,' is an Islamic hate group inciting and training for terrorism, acting under a banner of "fighting Islamophobia." Banned in France -two months prior to the massacre-{21} for inciting racial hatred.{22}

In 2010, it invaded a McDonald's restaurant, shouting anti-Semitic slogans. {23} Two members of the radical Islamic group “Forsane Alizza” were convicted of 'inciting racial hatred' by a court.{24}

- It reminded French Jews, that they "live in constant fear of Arab attacks, and the government does nothing."{25}

- He said his only regret was not having been able to carry out his plans for more killings.{26}

- After a 32 hours siege, the 'racist serial killer'{27} al-Qaeda militant died in a hail of bullets... as he jumped out of an apartment window{28}

- A Facebook page, which bore a picture of the self-proclaimed Al-Qaeda militant and was titled "Homage to Mohamed Merah", was consulted by more than 500 people before it was removed just hours after it appeared,{29} French police had to disperse a Muslim march in his "honor,"{30} and Jihadist produced video glorifying Mohammed Merah.{31}

- (Some also suspect Iran's proxy Hezbollah aided{32}, possibly even working in coordination with al-Qaida{33}).

- Murderer was motivated by propaganda and lies,{34}{35} the fraud of {self-inflicted} Palestinian-Arab "suffering."{36}

He certainly was influenced by a general fraudelant "Palestinian" images (like al-Dura) and hype - atmosphere, with Euro media bias picking/backing it up.{37}

- It comes, a week after an inflammatory tweet by a "Palestinian' propagandist, a UN worker Khulood Badawi,{38}{39}{40} posting a bloodied image of an old accidental dead Arab child, tweeting it around as a supposed "Israel" recent deed. (Typical Pallywood{41}).

(It has been suggested{42}, that Merah might have even see the tweet and inspired by it. Especially since he specifically talked about 'Palestinian children'{43}).

The terrible racist murder of schoolchildren in Toulouse has shocked France.{44}

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NOTES:


1.^ Fiona Govan, "Toulouse shooter may have filmed attack to post on internet," Independent IE, March 21 2012, independent.ie/world-news/europe/toulouse-shooter-may-have-filmed-attack-to-post-on-internet-3056241.html

2.^ "Toulouse shooting: Jewish groups call for action after 'anti semitic attack', Telegraph.co.uk, March 19, 2012, telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9152992/Toulouse-shooting-Jewish-groups-call-for-action-after-anti-Semitic-attack.html

3.^ Tom Goulding, "French 'racist serial killer' shot dead in police raid,' Examiner.com, March 22, 2012, examiner.com/headlines-in-detroit/french-racist-serial-killer-shot-dead-police-raid

4.^ "Mohammed Merah author of seven racist murders in France died," Mediapuzzlenews, March 23, 2012, mediapuzzlenews.net/en/news/791/mohammed_merah_author_of_seven_racist_murders_in_f rance_died.aspx

5.^ Jewish Federation of Northern New Jersey Federation Newsletter Issue #31, March, 2012, jfnnj.org/page.aspx?id=252951

6.^ "Europe's blind spot on anti-Semitism." By Frida Ghitis, Special to CNN updated 9:30 AM EDT, Fri March 23, 2012, cnn.com/2012/03/22/opinion/ghitis-toulouse-palestinian/index.html

7.^ "Forensics links 3 French motorbike attacks," CBS News, March 19, 2012, (CBS/AP), cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57399931/forensics-links-3-french-motorbike-attacks/

8.^ "All French shooting victims shot in the head at close range, prosecutor says," NBC News, msnbc.com staff and news services, March 20, 2012, worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/20/10771465-all-french-shooting-victims-shot-in-the-head-at-close-range-prosecutor-says

9.^ "'Toulouse killer executed the little girl' Eye witness accounts of Toulouse school shooting reveal killer's savagery, state he carried out execution-style killing of 8-year-old Miriam Monsonego, shooting her repeatedly in order to confirm kill." Menachem Gantz, Ynet, March 20, 2012, ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4205221,00.html

10.^ "Al Jazeera says won't air French gunman film," By Catherine Bremer, March 27, 2012, reuters.com/article/2012/03/27/us-france-shootings-idUSBRE82J10Z20120327

11.^ "Gun fiend filmed school bloodbath for sick kicks," TheSun, thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4207949/Fiend-filmed-French-school-bloodbath-for-kicks.html

12.^ "French terrorist recorded murders, including girl's execution, investigators say," NYPOST.com, Last Updated: 3:29 PM, March 24, 2012 Posted: 2:15 AM, March 23, 2012, nypost.com/p/news/international/horror_movies_If1IoTdmgr5zyYbpo2chIL

13.^ "Merah felt 'endless pleasure' during school massacre," Ynetnews, March 25, 2012, ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4207446,00.html

14.^ Peter Allen, "Toulouse gunman Mohammed Merah's brother charged with 'complicity,'" Daily Mail, March 25, 2012, dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2119782/Toulouse-gunman-Mohammed-Merahs-brother-charged-complicity.html

15.^ "Mohammed Merah's brother: I'm proud he executed those 3 kids," The Sun, March 24, 2012, thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4215262/Im-proud-my-brother-executed-those-3-kids.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News

16.^ islamistas - Francia proscribe un grupo islamista que reivindica la lucha armada LaInformacion.com, February 29, 2012, noticias.lainformacion.com/religion-y-credos/islamistas/francia-proscribe-un-grupo-islamista-que-reivindica-la-lucha-armada_QLqKHTQ0GYtdXFiMAdYLw5

17.^ "Police hunting a gunman suspected of killing seven people in southern France have surrounded a house in Toulouse." BBC, March 21 2012, bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17446999

18.^ "Toulouse Shooter Ideologically Affiliated with Al-Qaeda," Memri, March 21, 2012, (Special Dispatch No.4593) memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/6204.htm

19.^ ICT - March 2012, ict.org.il/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=99fFLwpcQLQ%3D&tabid=320 .

20.^ "France's Jihadist Shooter Was No Lone Wolf Mohamed Merah was practically a prince in violent extremist circles." By Jytte Klausen, WSJ, March 23, 2012 online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304636404577299550343286104.html?m od=googlenews_wsj

21.^ Scott Sayare, "France - Government Bans Domestic Islamist Group," NYTimes.com, January 23, 2012, nytimes.com/2012/01/24/world/europe/france-government-bans-domestic-islamist-group.html

22.^ Duncan Gardham, and Nick Squires, "Toulouse killer's brother 'may have met radicals in the UK'", Daily Telegraph, March 23 2012, telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9164004/Toulouse-killers-brother-may-have-met-radicals-in-the-UK.html

23.^ Paul Cruickshank and Tim Lister, 'French killings refocus fears on 'solo' acts of terror,' CNN, March 21, 2012, (pp. 2-3) articles.cnn.com/2012-03-21/world/world_europe_france-solo-terror_1_french-nationals-french-intelligence-french-citizen/2?_s=PM:EUROPE

24.^ 09-2011 - CFCA - The Coordination Forum for Countering anti-Semitism, antisemitism.org.il/list/3?m=2011-09

25.^ "Boys Town Jerusalem students mourn their slain teacher," Canadian Jewish News, March 22, 2012 "They live in constant fear of Arab attacks, and the government does nothing." cjnews.com/index.php?q=node/89581

26.^ "French police say gunman was planning more attacks," The Irish Times, March 21, 2012, irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0321/breaking2.html

27.^ 'French "racist serial killer" shot dead in police raid,' Tom Goulding, Headlines Examiner, March 22, 2012, examiner.com/headlines-in-detroit/french-racist-serial-killer-shot-dead-police-raid

28.^ "French shooter Mohamed Merah dies after jumping from window in a hail of bullets," Agence France-Presse, March 22, 2012, by Laurent Lozano, (National Post), news.nationalpost.com/2012/03/22/french-shooter-mohamed-merah-jumps-to-death-in-a-hail-of-bullets

29.^ "Facebook removes page paying homage to Toulouse killer," France 24, March 23, 2012, france24.com/en/20120323-facebook-removes-page-paying-tribute-toulouse-killer-merah-france-interior-ministry

30.^ "French police stop march in memory of Toulouse killer, AGI, March 24, 2012, agi.it/english-version/world/elenco-notizie/201203242016-cro-ren1074-french_police_stop_march_in_memory_of_toulouse_kil ler

31.^ "Jihadist Produces Video Glorifying Mohammed Merah," SITE Intelligence Group, March 26, 2012, news.siteintelgroup.com/component/content/article/6-jihadist-news/1726-jihadist-produces-video-glorifying-mohammed-merah

32.^ "Victims of French Shooting to Be Buried in Israel," by Ian Deitch, Associated Press, March 19, 2012, abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/victims-french-shooting-buried-israel-15955550

33.^ "Don't rule out Iran in the March 19 attack on a Jewish school in France," March 20, 2012, worldthreats.com/?p=10315

34.^ "Toulouse Murder Suspect Was Motivated by Propaganda and Lies," by David Frum, TheDailyBeast, Mar 21, 2012, thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/03/21/toulouse-murder-suspect-was-motivated-by-propaganda-and-lies0.html

35.^ Barry Rubin: "The True Perpetrators of The Antisemitic Attacks in Toulouse and Throughout the World," IsraelInsider, March 21, 2012, israelinsider.net/forum/topics/barry-rubin-the-true-perpetrators-of-the-antisemitic-attacks-in-t

36.^ "Islamic Arab racism manufacures fraud of Victimhood," LibertyNewsOnline, March 23, 2012, libertynewsonline.com/article_343_31665.php

37.^ "French terror suspect dead -- what are lessons of Toulouse?" By R. Abraham Cooper FoxNews.com, March 22, 2012 foxnews.com/opinion/2012/03/22/french-terror-suspect-dead-what-are-lessons-toulouse/

38.^ "HR Comment: Time to End the Incitement Against Israel, HR, March 21, 2012, honestreporting.com//top-tweet-on-gaza-proven-false/

39.^ "Israel Calls for U.N. Employee's Dismissal For Tweeting Misleading Photo of Dead Palestinian Child," TheBlaze, March 18, 2012, by Madeleine Morgenstern, theblaze.com/stories/israeli-u-n-ambassador-calls-for-u-n-employees-dismissal-for-tweeting-misleading-photo-of-dead-palestinian-child/

40.^ "More on a gaza top tweet lie the Khulood Badawi affair," mooseandsquirrel, March 21, 2012, mooseandsquirrel.ca/2012/03/21/10:24/more-on-a-gaza-top-tweet-lie-the-khulood-badawi-affair

41.^ Pallywood, seconddraft.org

42.^ "Did Mohammed Merah murder Jewish children because little over week earlier, on March 12, UN worker Khulood Badawi posted a photo of a bloodied child on @KhuloodBadawi?," anorak.co.uk/316512/news/did-un-workers-anti-israel-tweet-provoke-mohammed-merah-to-murder.html/

43.^ The Jawa Report: UN Tweet Partly Responsible For Toulouse Massacre? March 21, 2012 mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/211589.php

44.^ Sunder Katwala, "Electorate Should Not Be Influenced by Toulouse," Huffington Post, March 22, 2012, huffingtonpost.co.uk/sunder-katwala/electorate-should-not-be-_b_1372883.html

[Captain Kremmen]

1. Is this your own writing or copy and paste?
2. What is your point?

[Captain Kremmen]

Hello?

[scifes]

pretty sad, i really mean it, for the kids.
but the grownups who write about it and report it are hypocrites.

[Big Chiller]

@scifes

Agreed.

[Crunchy Cat]

One post wonder?

[GeoffP]

pretty sad, i really mean it, for the kids.
but the grownups who write about it and report it are hypocrites.

@scifes

Agreed.

I guess it would be too much to hope that either of you could explain why that's supposedly so.

[p-brane]

The irony about arabic and islamic antisemitism is that it`s actually killed or harmed arabs and muslims - nearly exclusively by their own hands - much more than it has israelis and jews. But given how firmly entrenched the radical brand of antisemitism imported from the nazis during WWII is in much of middle eastern culture and islam, it`s hard to see a way out. As a jew, I find this very depressing.

[Shadow1]

Who do you think destroyed the Islamic civilisation? Muslims themselves, by their own hands, the muslims were the first to build an observatory, and they were the first to destroy it (at the time when the observatory of Bagdad have been destroyed, the scientist or the keeper of that observatory was asked if he is the gardien of the sky (?!), he said that that is just an observatory to see the stars and the movements of the celestial bodies and etc..., so they said that is blasomy (?!) and "kufr" (from "kafer"), and for that they destroyed it, and that is an example of the falling of the islamic civilisation.
Kairouan, one of the richest capitals of thje Islamic civilisation, and a great center of knowledge and economy, also destroyed by muslims themselves (after the muslim civilisation started to divide), the muslim Spain, when muslims again, divided and started to fight each other...can you see it clearly?
That's not only about the Islamic civilisation, there is no civilisation that falls because of an exterior reasons, it's the people who build it and who destroy it.

We have many other examples from the islamic civilisation history that destroyed it little by little, like cancer..

Today, Sudan before the war and etc... (you can find videos and pictures on youtube) was a peacefull developing north African country with all white buildings and happy people(partially poor), open-minded, intill they found oil and other resources, same for Afghanistan, and etc... but you see how they destroyed themselves? (effcorse with some exterior help).


I wish that you don't associate that with Islam, Islam condamn this job, and says only fight who fight you (self defence), and don't harm a woman, nor a child, nor an old man, and also an unarmed man, not even a tree for no reason.


First, this Mohamed Merah case, seems to be, a fake one, the police says that, he was in afghanistan some 7 or such years ago (can't remember exactly), that means he was around 14 then (??!) in Afghanistan, saved by Taliban and helped him to escape and go back to France (?!), etc...
Also, why the media only talked about him when he killed jews, while he did kill other military guys before that with a week, and the police didnt even find him(as they say) (common is it really hard that they couldn't get him?)
There are alot of question marks here, it's not all clear and smooth, I mean the story.

But, I can't say that it didnt happen or that it truly happened as they say and he was a muslim fanatic who killed some jews. (my only sadness is for the kids if they die or loose their parents.)



Anyway, even hes case is true, and any other case (wich is apparently not only in Islam, but it's something global, fanatism is in anything, even in sports (remember the clash and fights in the football stadium in Egypte that left about 40 dead person?)


I find your post very old-dated, and blind (ignorant?), it's like you are noting that muslims are terrorists and fanatics and such things, let me ask you something, what do you hear in news? good stuff? Or bad stuff? You surely hear about bad stuff, crimes, murders, wars, etc... more than anything else.

[Shadow1]

I wish if you start looking at people and the world, on a larger scale and a more general view on humanity, fanatism, crime, love, friendship, hate ... are all something human shared between all human, so you find fanatics in every culture, every country, in every domain and of every kind, same as for crimes, also for love and caring and help...

[Shadow1]

One more fact, the arab world is living it's dark ages indeed.

But it may go out to the light and get illumunated soon (maybe it is loading right now, I assume it is).

[GeoffP]

So if it's bad to report on the bad stuff, is it bad to report on any bad stuff? How exactly would we know what's going on in the world?

[Shadow1]

So if it's bad to report on the bad stuff, is it bad to report on any bad stuff? How exactly would we know what's going on in the world?

Did I say that it's bad to report bad stuff? -_-
I said you don't see good stuff on news do you? Most things you will see is bad stuff, so you can't really make your judgements on a whole category of people by just that...

I mean, seriously?...

[p-brane]

Who do you think destroyed the Islamic civilisation? Muslims themselves, by their own hands.

I was referring to violence among muslims which is a direct result of their own fevered antisemitism. More specifically, there are many places in the middle east in which muslims showing any kind of deference - real or imagined - towards jews or israelis are putting themselves in serious jeopardy of being dismembered by their fellow muslims.

I wish that you don't associate that with Islam, Islam condamn this job, and says only fight who fight you (self defence), and don't harm a woman, nor a child, nor an old man, and also an unarmed man, not even a tree for no reason.

It is well known that the Quran contains may antisemitic asides with the more "jew-friendly" portions occuring closer to the beginning when Mohammad was writing it still foolishly hoping that jews would forsake over 2000 years of judiasm to join him.

But if you want to see the effect that hitler's antisemitism had on islam in a more direct way, look at versions of the hadith created after WWII where you'll find many in which every sin has been explicitly attributed to the jews where few if any attributions were ever given to anyone before the nazis.

[Shadow1]

It is well known that the Quran contains may antisemitic asides with the more "jew-friendly" portions occuring closer to the beginning when Mohammad was writing it still foolishly hoping that jews would forsake over 2000 years of judiasm to join him.

But if you want to see the effect that hitler's antisemitism had on islam in a more direct way, look at versions of the hadith created after WWII where you'll find many in which every sin has been explicitly attributed to the jews where few if any attributions were ever given to anyone before the nazis.

Quran did not come in one time all together, but it took about 23 years, in the quran, there are many suras came as a result for some events at that time.
As your claim of that hadith that blame jews for everything or whatever, can you pleas post it here so we analyze it and see if it is correct or incorrect?
What are those versions, I'm interrested (p.s.: hadith, means like, a talk, or a quote, so there's not only one hadith)

Quran is very clear, fight only who fight you.


You can always start picking some verses from Quran to make an agressive statements and hate relegion out of it, but you can't just, take some verses from around here and there and done, because every verse, is surrounded by other verses, define the meaning of that verse, and taking a verse out of it's context, changes it's meaning, and word by word translation, is even worse, Quran have a kind of a poetic sense in arabic, and precise words that if you change one or take it out of it's context, can change alot and even the meaning, so one have to be carefull about it.
Concentrating on some verses and quoting them, (without looking at the entire sura, and previous verses and the next verses) and then sticking them together, can get you a missunderstanding.










My first reply, wasn't about relegion mainly, but was about a global view on humanity and societies, as this topic is not in the relegion section, and it's a news, an event, and as it is assosiated with Islam, I wanted to clearefy some points about that, because I noticed that the main idea of thise thread, is not just the event, but more than that, to discuss about the relegion fanatism and hate crimes, and finally end up in relegion discussion, as you see.

[Balerion]

But Islam is a religion of peace, you guys!

[Badawiout]

The irony about arabic and islamic antisemitism is that it`s actually killed or harmed arabs and muslims - nearly exclusively by their own hands - much more than it has israelis and jews. But given how firmly entrenched the radical brand of antisemitism imported from the nazis during WWII is in much of middle eastern culture and islam, it`s hard to see a way out. As a jew, I find this very depressing.

I couldn't agree with you more. The fact that: Islamic Taliban massacred so many Afghans; that Al Qaeda and Iranian "agents" caused most deaths in Iraq; that (militant) Arab Muslim Palestinians cause most civilian deaths (by using them) in order to blame Israel for their crimers against humanity...

[scifes]

I guess it would be too much to hope that either of you could explain why that's supposedly so.

because simply the crimes committed against palestinians by isreal overshadow such incident.

..if not completely, then to a degree less than the attention it's been given.

once again, i've only sadness for school kids shot in their own school. but i feel the hypocrisy of people when they cry and wail for it and it's happening 24/7 by isreali jews on palestinian children in their schools. and what they offer is "self defense" and that bullshit..

[GeoffP]

because simply the crimes committed against palestinians by isreal overshadow such incident.

Ah. So one should not report on any crimes but the ongoing Palestine/Israel conflict. So should I then, in turn, ignore that conflict until proper recognition of the Armenian Genocide or the massacres of the Hindu Kush take place?

..if not completely, then to a degree less than the attention it's been given.

Well, it hasn't been in the news lately.

once again, i've only sadness for school kids shot in their own school. but i feel the hypocrisy of people when they cry and wail for it and it's happening 24/7 by isreali jews on palestinian children in their schools. and what they offer is "self defense" and that bullshit..

They're not incorrect about the need for defense, but err in how they go about it, and ignore their own provocations.

[Captain Kremmen]

You can always start picking some verses from Quran to make an aggressive statements and hate religion out of it, but you can't just, take some verses from around here and there and done, because every verse, is surrounded by other verses, define the meaning of that verse, and taking a verse out of its context, changes it's meaning, and word by word translation, is even worse, Quran have a kind of a poetic sense in arabic, and precise words that if you change one or take it out of it's context, can change alot and even the meaning, so one have to be carefull about it.
Concentrating on some verses and quoting them, (without looking at the entire sura, and previous verses and the next verses) and then sticking them together, can get you a misunderstanding.

Great point Shadow.
There is a saying:
"The Devil can quote scripture for his needs"

It means that if you pick and choose what scriptures to quote, then even the devil will find use for sacred texts.