NASA UFO hacker exposes UFO documentation

[Balerion]

I'm not even sure what to make of the guy in the video. He sounds articulate, doesn't sound crazy, but then again the stuff he says are basically just stuff you hear in movies...nothing new, you know?

That's a very important point, Mr. B. He just seems to be regurgitating the same mythology we've been hearing forever. As far as not sounding crazy, he doesn't necessarily need to be in order to make up a lie that has now made him a cult figure among Believers. Then again, one does not have to sound crazy to be crazy.

Welcome to the forums, by the way!

[Arioch]

But, if you have access to the hard drive it's possible to reconstruct any data that was downloaded to your computer so long as you're competent and patient. And if this guy hacked government files then he's obviously competent and thus could recover the files he downloaded if he wanted to. The fact that he won't speaks volumes about the validity of his claims, it also indicates that there never were any files and the claim is bogus.

[Balerion]

But, if you have access to the hard drive it's possible to reconstruct any data that was downloaded to your computer so long as you're competent and patient. And if this guy hacked government files then he's obviously competent and thus could recover the files he downloaded if he wanted to. The fact that he won't speaks volumes about the validity of his claims, it also indicates that there never were any files and the claim is bogus.

Yup! And it should be obvious to everyone. Sadly, that isn't the case.

[Read-Only]

Yup! And it should be obvious to everyone. Sadly, that isn't the case.

Actually, it IS obvious to any rational, thinking person. The problem with the "alien-believers" is that they are MORE than willing to immediately suspend all rational thought so that they can maintain their myth.

[Balerion]

Actually, it IS obvious to any rational, thinking person. The problem with the "alien-believers" is that they are MORE than willing to immediately suspend all rational thought so that they can maintain their myth.

Yes, that's what I meant. It's obvious to those who do not allow their desire for conspiracy deliciousness shut down their rational mind.

[Arioch]

So, the conclusion that's been reached is that this guy is either a crackpot or a fraud? Yes?

[Balerion]

my personal oppinion is that top secret files are unhackable

Uh, no they're not. There is no dispute that this hacker got his hands on top secret material. What is in dispute is whether his story about aliens and anti-gravity tech is true.

[Arioch]

@JDawg --

Oh come on, that's not in dispute either. We know he was lying about that shit, else he would have provided the evidence already.

[Balerion]

@JDawg --

Oh come on, that's not in dispute either. We know he was lying about that shit, else he would have provided the evidence already.

Do you not know what "in dispute" means? If it isn't in dispute, then we accept that he stole secrets about alien technology. So obviously his claim is in dispute.

Enough with the semantic nonsense.

[Arioch]

Fair enough, fair enough.

[Stryder]

Do you not know what "in dispute" means? If it isn't in dispute, then we accept that he stole secrets about alien technology. So obviously his claim is in dispute.

Enough with the semantic nonsense.

"alien technology" can mean technology not related to people of your homeland. So it could mean technology from another country.

From what I heard of McKinnon's exploits, the attack itself exploited a grey area or loophole in how information at the time was being moved from one media to another and undergoing "reclassification". It was posed the exploit involved using the Archie gopher service which contained information stored in this older data format.

As for the US claim that a number of computers were "wiped", there is no third-party confirmation of this, if anything it's just a method to improve the reasons for extradition. However posed exploitation of such computers likely used the "Unmanned Installation" versions of certain operating systems that usually had "Administrator" being created with a "Blank" password, which actually proves a failing in the security protocols that would be assumed to be in place.

As for the information obtained, while UFO secrecy might of been McKinnon's objective, he was technically looking in the wrong place. The Roswell crash of 1947 wasn't investigated directly by the NSA or CIA, but was actually USA-AF with an attempted coup by the FBI head of the time (Hoover) to gain rights over continued investigation.

Any usage of "Alien" by the NSA or the CIA therefore is relationship to "person(s) not being of their country".

[Balerion]

"alien technology" can mean technology not related to people of your homeland. So it could mean technology from another country.

From what I heard of McKinnon's exploits, the attack itself exploited a grey area or loophole in how information at the time was being moved from one media to another and undergoing "reclassification". It was posed the exploit involved using the Archie gopher service which contained information stored in this older data format.

As for the US claim that a number of computers were "wiped", there is no third-party confirmation of this, if anything it's just a method to improve the reasons for extradition. However posed exploitation of such computers likely used the "Unmanned Installation" versions of certain operating systems that usually had "Administrator" being created with a "Blank" password, which actually proves a failing in the security protocols that would be assumed to be in place.

As for the information obtained, while UFO secrecy might of been McKinnon's objective, he was technically looking in the wrong place. The Roswell crash of 1947 wasn't investigated directly by the NSA or CIA, but was actually USA-AF with an attempted coup by the FBI head of the time (Hoover) to gain rights over continued investigation.

Any usage of "Alien" by the NSA or the CIA therefore is relationship to "person(s) not being of their country".

I sincerely doubt anyone in the NSA or CIA uses the term "alien technology" in reference to another country's technology. There are far less loaded ways to say that. Anyway, McKinnon wasn't the one who used the term. He specifically referenced "UFO technology" that was "not man-made."

He also said the government was suppressing free energy technology. What's most likely here is that McKinnon is just making shit up.

[Believe]

I sincerely doubt anyone in the NSA or CIA uses the term "alien technology" in reference to another country's technology. There are far less loaded ways to say that. Anyway, McKinnon wasn't the one who used the term. He specifically referenced "UFO technology" that was "not man-made."

He also said the government was suppressing free energy technology. What's most likely here is that McKinnon is just making shit up.

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