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    No I meant more than the Earth. I am speaking of the field 'entrapped' in cooled volcanic rocks. You will be familiar with the alternating magnetic pattern on the seabed that exists as a consequence of seafloor spreading and an occasionally reversing magnetic field. There are similar patterns on Mars and these are considerably stronger than their equivalent on Earth. If you require, I can provide citations.

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    That's more like it. I'm safe again. Especially with the new information from the Moon, which is exactly what I wanted, and gives Earth something special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophiolite View Post
    No I meant more than the Earth. I am speaking of the field 'entrapped' in cooled volcanic rocks. You will be familiar with the alternating magnetic pattern on the seabed that exists as a consequence of seafloor spreading and an occasionally reversing magnetic field. There are similar patterns on Mars and these are considerably stronger than their equivalent on Earth. If you require, I can provide citations.
    Oh, gotcha. I misunderstood and thought that you were speaking of the current magnetic field - thanks for the clarification.
    Last edited by origin; 03-13-12 at 02:13 PM. Reason: clarification

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    http://www-ssc.igpp.ucla.edu/personn...pers/mars_mag/

    Now there's no doubt. Here is both old and new data compared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HectorDecimal View Post
    That's interesting because it was recently revealed that magnetic "tornadoes" have been detected at the surface of the sun. Is this what you are referring to?

    BTW... Nun quam Illegitimus carborundum. (Basically what you said regarding that sole element of encouragement... )
    Nope. Recently, in trying to reason how the natural positive feedback to dynamic fusion (what I call the plasma process), keeps from blowing up the whole nine yards. I fancied that any surplus fusion mustn't raise the fuel temperature, avoids it by putting it into potential energy instead of heat. It lifts the stuff above it. Then, big joke on me, figured sun won't explode at all because at a given depth, how could pressure vary? Then bigger joke, figured that a vortex could do just that, (it is a gas after all), hence the center would cool due to reduction of density and the cooling plasma could snort up expansion from unchecked fusion under the ring-shaped hump surrounding. Silly me. Found out that authorized thinkers buy the magnetic plug crap as the cause and still scratch their heads on why the cold spot spins.

    The resulting sleeve of plasma under runaway fusion raises Macroscopically neutral flare but electron solar coating zooms up thousands of miles: some electrons come back down with landing dollops, some escape completely. Where the dollops land would account for the lesser, alternate magnetic polarities that pair with the heavy polarity for emerging stuff.

    Read Dr. Rob Roy Britt's decade-old explanation that says I got it backwords.
    But just in case he got it wrong, maybe doppler can tell us how the whirlpools grow in case their centers spin that deeply. Jimmy Wales said thanky same, but favors the consensual stuff over the truth so help me.

    Don't believe a word I said because users here expect documentary confirmation from new peer-reviewed stuff. I disavow anything that I think of myself. But you might keep an eye out in case I am also wrong about being wrong.
    Last edited by Dale; 03-13-12 at 06:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale View Post
    Nope. Recently, in trying to reason how the natural positive feedback to dynamic fusion (what I call the plasma process), I fancied that any surplus fusion mustn't raise the fuel temperature, avoids it by putting it into potential energy instead of heat. Then, big joke on me, figured sun won't explode at all because at a given depth, how could pressure vary? Then bigger joke, figured that a vortex could do just that, (it is a gas after all), hence the center would cool due to reduction of density and the cooling plasma could snort up unchecked fusion under the ring-shaped hump surrounding. Silly me. Found out that authorized thinkers buy the magnetic plug crap at the cause and still scratch their heads on why the cold spot spins.

    The resulting sleeve of plasma under runaway fusion raises Macroscopically neutral flare but electron solar coating zooms up thousands of miles: some electrons come back down with landing dollops, some escape completely. Where the dollops land would account for the lesser, alternate magnetic polarities that pair with the heavy polarity for emerging stuff.

    Read Dr. Rob Roy Britt's decade-old explanation that says I got it backwords.
    But just in case he got it wrong, maybe doppler can tell us how the whirlpools grow in case their centers spin that deeply. Jimmy Wales said thanky same, but favors the consensual stuff over the truth so help me.

    Don't believe a word I said because users here expect documentary confirmation from new peer-reviewed stuff. I disavow anything that I think of myself. But you might keep an eye out in case I am also wrong about being wrong.
    That's very hard to read. It would make a good song... dollops of lesser, alternate magnetic polarities that pair with the heavy polarity for emerging stuff.

    A bit like supercalifragilisticespialidocious.

    Basically, I can't fit any physics into that description.

    The sale of a toilet cleanser?...

    buy the magnetic plug crap at the cause and still scratch their heads on why the cold spot spins.
    Cillit Bang? This guy recommends it?....

    the whirlpools grow in case their centers spin that deeply. Jimmy Wales said thanky same, but favors the consensual stuff over the truth so help me.
    Last edited by Pincho Paxton; 03-13-12 at 02:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale View Post
    Nope. Recently, in trying to reason how the natural positive feedback to dynamic fusion (what I call the plasma process), I fancied that any surplus fusion mustn't raise the fuel temperature, avoids it by putting it into potential energy instead of heat. Then, big joke on me, figured sun won't explode at all because at a given depth, how could pressure vary? Then bigger joke, figured that a vortex could do just that, (it is a gas after all), hence the center would cool due to reduction of density and the cooling plasma could snort up unchecked fusion under the ring-shaped hump surrounding. Silly me. Found out that authorized thinkers buy the magnetic plug crap at the cause and still scratch their heads on why the cold spot spins.

    The resulting sleeve of plasma under runaway fusion raises Macroscopically neutral flare but electron solar coating zooms up thousands of miles: some electrons come back down with landing dollops, some escape completely. Where the dollops land would account for the lesser, alternate magnetic polarities that pair with the heavy polarity for emerging stuff.

    Read Dr. Rob Roy Britt's decade-old explanation that says I got it backwords.
    But just in case he got it wrong, maybe doppler can tell us how the whirlpools grow in case their centers spin that deeply. Jimmy Wales said thanky same, but favors the consensual stuff over the truth so help me.

    Don't believe a word I said because users here expect documentary confirmation from new peer-reviewed stuff. I disavow anything that I think of myself. But you might keep an eye out in case I am also wrong about being wrong.
    All you need are croutons, some dressing and it is ready to toss.

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    It's beautiful today! It's 24 degrees above the normal temperature, meaning it's 75 deg f.

    Here's something to ponder: How would any of you guys cut a tunnel through a mountainous body of gneiss and schist?

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrothermal_explosion
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    http://bulletin.geoscienceworld.org/...3/723.abstract

    Hydrothermal explosions are not a type of volcanic eruption. Although the required energy probably comes from a deep igneous source, this energy is transferred to the surface by circulating meteoric water rather than by magma. The energy is stored as heat in hot water and rock within a few hundred feet of the surface.
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    http://specialpapers.gsapubs.org/content/459/1.abstract

    http://www.yellowstone.net/hydrothermal.htm

    http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science...lowstone_N.htm

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/1408

    So all this may not be as silly as some think. When I'm speaking of a "slow erruption" this is more akin to what I'm describing. The question is now whether all this happening, should just such a wave of water interact with the magma chamber, would it cause a superexplosion, then, with the caldera overdue for erruption, could initiate an erruption?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HectorDecimal View Post
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrothermal_explosion
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    http://bulletin.geoscienceworld.org/...3/723.abstract

    Hydrothermal explosions are not a type of volcanic eruption. Although the required energy probably comes from a deep igneous source, this energy is transferred to the surface by circulating meteoric water rather than by magma. The energy is stored as heat in hot water and rock within a few hundred feet of the surface.
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    http://specialpapers.gsapubs.org/content/459/1.abstract

    http://www.yellowstone.net/hydrothermal.htm

    http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science...lowstone_N.htm

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/1408

    So all this may not be as silly as some think. When I'm speaking of a "slow erruption" this is more akin to what I'm describing. The question is now whether all this happening, should just such a wave of water interact with the magma chamber, would it cause a superexplosion, then, with the caldera overdue for erruption, could initiate an erruption?
    oooh that's interesting! I forgot all about those. Of course my posts go off at a tangent. So I will just keep quiet.

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    How would any of you guys cut a tunnel through a mountainous body of gneiss and schist?
    I'd hire an engineer who had an education and knew what he was doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexG View Post
    I'd hire an engineer who had an education and knew what he was doing.
    .. and that's why you have someone to dress you in the mornings!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton View Post
    .. and that's why you have someone to dress you in the mornings!
    Don't you know that arguing with a crank is useless?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton View Post
    That's very hard to read.
    Afraid you are right. Was trying to throw a clue to Hector without giving local chimps a place to hold me back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale View Post
    Afraid you are right. Was trying to throw a clue to Hector without giving local chimps a place to hold me back.


    I think I extrapolated some core concepts in all that.. (pun intended)

    I really just don't have time to make any meaningful comment at this point.

    As for the chimps: Ahhh... the bravery of being out of range...

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    http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquak...usb0008hb9.php

    Another quake near the Outback...

    We broke the record here in Indy today. 81 deg f. 30 degrees above the norm.

    This site doesn't bully eccentric scientifics... www.jootbox.websitetoolbox.com

    I've been continuing to search for evidence. It goes both ways. To me that says it's a 50/50 chance that fracking could set off a volcano. 50/50 there could be a connection between solar flares and seismic activity here and that seismic activity could set off volcanoes.

    Honestly, I don't blame someone for remaining in denial about Yellowstone if they live West of the Huckleberry Ridge. I feel reasonably safe to continue building here, but I still have the question of it being folly in the back of my mind. Building a destruction resistant houseboat that is self powered and provides for indoor farming sounds like the best bet to me. D'ya suppose there's 1000 people out there who are like minded?

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    http://jootbox.websitetoolbox.com/po...111?trail=15#2

    Now if they were living in one of these I could understand why someone wouldn't care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HectorDecimal View Post
    http://jootbox.websitetoolbox.com/po...111?trail=15#2

    Now if they were living in one of these I could understand why someone wouldn't care.
    Pity the forum views, and posts are mostly 0 0. I could do with more freedom of speech. I have about 2000 additions to my theory, and predictions that I have never posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton View Post
    Pity the forum views, and posts are mostly 0 0. I could do with more freedom of speech. I have about 2000 additions to my theory, and predictions that I have never posted.
    Just a thought. CBS News stated that over 380 cities in the US either tied or broke the record temps. Here we were 30 deg f above normal, beating the 1990 record of 79 degreees f by 2 deg f.

    They also spoke of anticipating more coastal flooding in the near future. They estimated that by 2030 millions of coastal dwellers will be flooded out of their homes.

    Voice in the wilderness

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    Quote Originally Posted by HectorDecimal View Post
    Just a thought. CBS News stated that over 380 cities in the US either tied or broke the record temps. Here we were 30 deg f above normal, beating the 1990 record of 79 degreees f by 2 deg f.

    They also spoke of anticipating more coastal flooding in the near future. They estimated that by 2030 millions of coastal dwellers will be flooded out of their homes.

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    If you knew what was happening you wouldn't be able to do anything about it anyway.

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