War Games: Iran Style

Discussion in 'World Events' started by S.A.M., Dec 9, 2011.

  1. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Some time back I commented on the fact that the whole hoopla over nuclear weapons programs has become outdated because now in the new age, people are going to be able to use invisible weapons that turn our own weapon systems against us.

    I've been reading up on how Iran acquired the latest cutting edge technology US drone [excellent article by Moon of Alabama] - of which the US reportedly has only 10 - presumably there in Afghanistan to counter the superior radar technology of the Taliban [

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    ]- and apparently you can trace it back to a supposedly benign but unshakeable virus which infected the Creech Air Force Base

    One of the biggest advantages of such "warfare" is the extremely low cost of investment and the difficulty in targeting any visible threat

    And the ability to do it from literally, anywhere on the planet

    and requires very little time from investment to results

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  3. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, the virus was probably written by programmers living in Iran's 3rd largest Martian colony. US drones never crash or take fire.

    BTW there indeed was an Israeli drone which crash landed in Lebanon. That one was deliberate, though. Booby-trapped to explode once Hezbollah took it to one of their arms depots, blew the whole place to smithereens.
     
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  5. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    Haven't the Iranians captured a USA drone just the other day?
     
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  7. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    You tell me if this one did

    Here Is The Drone: Hats off to Iran and its electronic warfare specialists.


    From the above link:

    Stages of grief:

    Denial - that is not our drone
    Anger - how dare they touch our drone
    Bargaining - please give it back we will give you a PC
    Depression - so sad, why send drones? lets go home ....
    Acceptance - that is our drone, we shall make it better and arm it next time
    Yeah I read that too. source:unnamed Israeli military officials

    http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=438974

    Yup see video in link above

    Here is a chance to get yours:

    http://www.salon.com/2011/12/06/nprs_domestic_drone_commercial/singleton/
     
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  8. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    That's the old model drone, they have newer ones now that far superceed the older versions. It doesn't matter if old ones are taken because that technology was last years and the advanced technology is even more elaborate and much harder to interfere with.

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  9. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Great. Now are you going to drop your ridiculous assertions that Iran is a benign force in the region?
     
  10. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    For landing a stealth drone inside Iran? What would the US do if an Iranian drone was found over its nuclear centers?

    As an American Jew, you should worry about the possible impact of Israel's Samson option:

    That old rag? Yup. That explains why the other 9 have been grounded by the US and why they decided to launch a raid to recover this drone and then cancelled it. It would have been interesting to see how the Americans would have explained a raid into Iran where they would have met with the pissed off Revolutionary Guards waiting for them

    US cancels high-risk commando raid to recover drone from Iran

    Q:whats the difference between the boy scouts and US commandos?
    A: The boy scouts have adult supervision
     
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  11. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Electronic warfare is still warfare.
     
  12. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Right. So lets talk about what Iran should do on discovering a stealth drone over its sovereign territory [besides selling the technology to Russia, China, Turkey, India and Pakistan]
     
  13. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    Your link also says the following:


    So they miraculously managed to hack this thing with a computer virus but didn't know how to land it intact? Next we're going to hear how Iran hacked the planes which crashed on 9/11. Puhleaze. We're talking about a country which frequently buys 1980's Soviet technology and repackages it as if it was some advanced new weapon ready to go on the mass-production lines. Those retarded sea-going magic carpets flying boats are based on technology from 90 years ago. Their Shahab missiles are basically renamed North Korean missiles which themselves were largely based on frigging German V2's built 70 years ago. And all this speculation about hacking, just based on a a few seconds of internet video? If a few seconds of footage is sufficient to fuel these kinds of conspiracy theories, why doesn't the Iranian media just play some clips from Terminator 2 and claim they destroyed America's T-1000 project while they're at it?

    Forgive me for being skeptical about navel-scratching speculative conspiracy bloggers with a grudge against all the pretty American women who wouldn't date them. We're talking about a country which still needs to buy spare parts for 1970's aircraft from its mortal western enemies, because they know how to put certain components together but don't know how those components actually work. It's pretty sad, really; you deserve to have a country you can cheer for which isn't run by fundamentalist retards. My advice: that drone won't be much use to them, the best thing they can do is sell it to China or Russia for more competent engineers have a look.

    And what is known for certain is that an illegal Hezbollah arms depot south of the Litani river went up in smoke shortly after they bragged about downing an Israeli drone. Coincidence? Maybe. At least you don't see me jumping the gun and claiming Mossad computer-hacked their Katyushas to detonate- maybe you need to have a basic understanding of computers and programming to know why that's a ridiculous assertion, just like your claims that Dimona's cooling systems could be hacked by a country which has no clue what components are even in there in the first place. Stuxnet was made possible because

    A) Iran's hacking capabilities don't hold a candle to western capabilities- too many idiots wasting their time studying how to beat their women
    B) Iran doesn't have the technical know-how to build their own reactor plants, hence they need the components spoonfed to them by real countries with real scientists, leaving them vulnerable to nations which can acquire and study the same components (in this case, Siemens electronics)
     
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  14. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Allow a Democratic election, end it's nuclear program, end it's proxy wars with Israel, stop it's human rights abuses and religious oppression.
     
  15. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Why? Why can't it be more like Saudi Arabia with its king or like Israel with its occupation of demographic bombs and gender segregated buses?
     
  16. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Because those are wrong too.
     
  17. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Right, so we have to assume then that since the US has admitted that its their drone

    it was generously donated to the Iranian regime as an early Christmas present complete with code:

    If Malfunction Then
    drone.action:"land.gently" ElseSelf.destruct<end sub=""></end>

    to ensure it landed safely in their hands

    Now all we have to do is ponder at US scaremongering of a supposedly technologically inept country when they themselves can't even keep their stealth drones, stealthy
     
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  18. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    According to the source you cited in your last post, it didn't "land.gently". As for self-destruct, if the U.S. knew where it crashed and wanted to blow it up, all it takes is one cruise missile launched from hundreds of miles away or even further. My guess would be that the drone wasn't important enough to risk sparking a regional war. So yeah, Merry Christmas and have fun living in the 70's while everyone else keeps progressing.

    So much hoopla over a stinkin' robot. It doesn't scare you that in half a century or less, hordes of Islamic fundamentalists will be martyring themselves for the honour of blowing these things up? There may be tears for martyrs, but there are no tears for cheaply mass-produced machines (we might cry over the time wasted in painting them, though).
     
  19. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    BTW for those who've never watched Iranian TV: watch S.A.M.'s clip, and you'll come to understand why Borat is such a brilliantly realistic satire on the way media works in that neighbourhood.
     
  20. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I'd say for a third drone landing in one year, a nearly intact one with millions of dollars worth of technology is pretty gentle landing. Did you see its size and weight????



    Right since you're so convinced its worthless, we'll just ignore what the "experts" have to say
    Pffft! what do they know?

    See there! [vague hand waving]
     
  21. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    The electronics and stuff do have a self-destruct mechanism, it just doesn't blow up the whole airplane.
     
  22. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I'm pretty sure its already in either Russian or Chinese hands with both their warships so close by. Even if the Iranians did not have the tech, either of those two would. You don't think the Iranians would keep such a hot dish on their plate, do you?
     
  23. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    Re S.A.M.:

    See? I didn't even have to do the research and I already knew the drone would only be useful for making a few extra bucks selling it to Russia or China, just as it says in the Seattle Times article you quoted. The biggest problem for the U.S. is that some of their more secretive drone capabilities might be exposed. They don't want countries like Iran to know exactly what America is capable of and what their limitations might be, that's why it sucks to lose a drone like this. The hacking claims or the idea that Iran has the ability to copy this thing are where your story tips into the land of woo.
     

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