03-24-12, 12:10 AM #121
1b) US oil prices = global oil prices and the POTUS does not control global oil pricing.
1c) Global oil prices and supply are managed/controlled by an oil cartel (i.e. OPEC). So increased domestic US oil production would likely be met with offsetting production reduction in OPEC states. Thus increased domestic US oil supplies would have zero global impact on pricing or supply. It is really stupid to blame Obama for oil price increases.
1d) Obama can be faulted for not pursuing realistic alternatives to gasoline (e.g. natural gas) more aggressively. Funny, why is Hannity and his fellows over at Fox not pursuing this line of attack? My guess is Exxon might not be to happy with that line of attack. God forbid that people should know there are better and cheaper alternatives available to gasoline.
2a) Where was Hannity and his fellow conservatives when George II and his fellows were on vacation every few weeks and traveling all over the country? As you point out, George II was on vacation every other day.
2b) The president pays his own vacation expenses. The government pays for his travel and security expenses just as they have done for every president for generations.
04-16-12, 05:08 PM #122
You have to be pretty brain dead to vote this puppet to office again, he has broken practically every campaign promise he made and with grand style...
Fall Of The Republic
And now, watch all the apologists, paid stooges and whatnots gathering to attack, lol
04-16-12, 07:00 PM #123
04-16-12, 07:27 PM #124keith1Guest
05-09-12, 09:38 AM #125
A man currently serving a 17 year sentence in prison (in Texas) received 40% of the vote in the Virginia Democratic Party Presidential Primary.
I'm sure this is a "protest vote" and I doubt most of the people who voted for him realized they were voting for an inmate, but it certainly isn't a good sign when an inmate can get that many votes.
Just how unpopular is President Barack Obama in some parts of the country? Enough that a man in prison in Texas got 4 out of 10 votes in West Virginia's Democratic presidential primary.
The inmate, Keith Judd, is serving time at the Beaumont Federal Correctional Institution in Texas for making threats at the University of New Mexico in 1999. Obama received 59 percent of the vote to Judd's 41 percent.
For some West Virginia Democrats, simply running against Obama is enough to get Judd votes.
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05-09-12, 10:40 AM #126
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05-09-12, 11:35 AM #127
05-09-12, 12:14 PM #128
So when you look at all the numbers, 80 percent of the party primary vote for Obama versus 66% for Romney in a red state like North Carolina, that is not a bad number for Obama.
It is not surprising to see Fox pushing Romney with this kind of lopsided stuff.
Romney won 70% of the Republican Primary vote in West Virginia, which means that 30% of the Republican voters in West Virginia wanted someone other than Romney yesterday. Thirty percent of the Republican West Virginia voters, a solid Republican state, voted against Romney yesterday - not just a "No Preference" vote. So when you look at the big picture yesterday and you think 20% of the Democrats in North Carolina voting "No Preference" is funny, then you have to be ROFL when you look at 30% of the Republican voters voting against Romney in a solid red state like West Virginia. And West Virginia was the best state for Romney in the primaries yesterday.
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05-09-12, 02:42 PM #129
Suffice to say, neither party is very enthusiastic about their standard bearer this time around. But I do think that Republicans are very enthusiastic about voting against Obama come November whether it's Romney, Paul, or Mickey Mouse running against him.
05-09-12, 02:52 PM #130
So Obama finally did the right thing today and came out in favor of gay marriage!
05-09-12, 03:15 PM #131
05-09-12, 04:07 PM #132
Now it's gay marriage. Republicans are playing defense.
05-09-12, 05:21 PM #133
In fact, I think that's just wishful thinking on your part. Voters are less enthusiastic about Obama now than they were in 2008 (which is almost inevitable, and also not saying much). Given how fractured the GOP is these days, I don't see how Romney can simultaneously energize both the teabaggers and the establishment and the evangelicals. You can assert that they all just hate Obama so much that they're dieing to vote for anybody, but I don't see it. Or rather, I don't see where the fact that the Republican base is exactly that adds up to an argument about the election - the Republican base, on its own, can't carry a Presidential election in the first place.
05-10-12, 07:58 AM #134
This and ThatOriginally Posted by Joepistole
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Originally Posted by Quadraphonics
And so on, and so forth. But conservative hardliners won the senate primary, which will give them some confidence.
Still, though, the lower turnout this year suggests Republican enthusiasm is down generally, and with folks like Bryan Fischer of the AFA openly criticizing Romney for everything—including those occasions that the bigot preacher gets what he wants—Republicans in "middle America" might well be facing an enthusiasm gap that translates to their undoing.
We'll see how all this goes. I hold with Maher that Democratic supporters cannot bank on Obama's re-election. Romney has a path to victory, but it's tight; losing even one necessary swing state could end the question for Republicans. Voter enthusiasm is imperative, and the primary in Madanthonywayne's state suggests GOP enthusiasm is down.
To the other, if he is overlooking that aspect, I understand. As you're aware, one of my constant criticisms of his analyses is superficiality. For the moment, hardline conservatives are on a high in his state, the omens are hard to read, and anti-institutionalism seems to be driving what voter enthusiasm there is.
And, of course, he might well be misreading liberal disappointment with some of Obama's political outcomes. Democratic supporters, ranging all the way to the leftists—who are never tremendously enthusiastic about voting for a center-right party—are protective of Obama. We've seen what happens if conservative hardliners get into office; we don't want to have to clean up Romney's mess in 2016. So the more the hardline right goes after women, religious and ethnic minorities, labor, and so on, the more determined Democratic supporters will be to turn out the vote.
Our neighbor's analysis is certainly wishful; but this is also a year when wishes are in play.
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05-10-12, 10:30 AM #135
I never vote based on campaign promises. My only criterion is fewer conservative judges for supreme court. We are falling behind times compared to librul Europe.
Romney will only appoint conservatives, limit EPA etc.
05-10-12, 10:53 AM #136
Quadra, dieing means to use a die such
as stamping a metal object. Dying results in death.
05-10-12, 11:35 AM #137
05-10-12, 11:52 AM #138
05-10-12, 12:31 PM #139
Also, now that the GOP primary is over and Obama has a fixed target to attack from the bully pulpit, I think we're going to get reminded of exactly how deft and powerful a campaigner Obama is. The guy is no limp-wristed chump like Kerry or Gore were - you don't just stumble into being the first black President. And Robocorp is about as fat a target as Obama could hope for. I, for one, am looking forward to several more months of Slow Jam The News vs. Let Them Eat Cake.
Not to be too complacent (intrade.com current has Obama victory odds at 60%), but it's Obama's election to lose as I see it. Provided he doesn't do anything completely stupid, or get hammered by an EU crack-up or somesuch, I don't see how Romney can realistically get there.
05-10-12, 08:16 PM #140
Obama does campaigns OK and talks well even with a short statement. Lack of experience showed mostly with congress. A troublesome one. And the two party system works poorly. Even in matters where all voters demand: do something, anything.
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