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    did it work ?

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    From the tweets it looks like the test went as planned, ran in self-sustaining mode for 4 hours, was stopped as planned, cooled down, disassembled, and is being inspected.

    Quote Originally Posted by tweets
    At 19:00, after 4 hours in continuous self-sustaining mode, the reaction has been interrupted as planned....
    ....this will allow some time for the E-Cat module to cool down. Afterwards, it will be disassembled and inspected...

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    wow . this could change everything .

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    Do we have confirmation from any independent sources yet? I looked around but I didn't see much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Believe View Post
    Do we have confirmation from any independent sources yet? I looked around but I didn't see much.
    Apparently not. And if the thing HAD worked as claimed, you can be sure the TV, radio, newspapers, etc. would be SCREAMING by now!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Read-Only View Post
    Apparently not. And if the thing HAD worked as claimed, you can be sure the TV, radio, newspapers, etc. would be SCREAMING by now!!!
    I turned on the news to see if it was creeping out . Nothing yet ? Tomorrow . Maybe the data has to be verified ? I don't know . I am going to cross Me fingers . God let it be .

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    http://peswiki.com/index.php/News:Re...011_E-Cat_Test

    October 6, 2011 Summary

    Hank Mills writes:

    So far, it seems that the test of the E-Cat went well. Around thirty scientists and engineers from around the world showed up. Among these individuals were Christos Stremmenos, who is on the board of directors of Defkalion. In addition, professors Levi and Ferrari from the University of Bologna were present at the test. Dr. Focardi also attended the test. Media representatives from NyTecnic, Radio 24, and Focus.it documented the test. They took many photos and videos that will be posted in the coming days.

    On the technical side of things, it seems the E-Cat performed well. We do not have final numbers for energy in and out, but we have been told the E-Cat self sustained for four hours with no input. We were told the E-Cat itself got incredibly hot (so hot those present could not touch it), the heat exchanger worked well, a steam temperature of 110 C was recorded inside of the E-Cat, and the energy output was so much larger than the input, that there was no need to extend the length test.

    What is very important is that no one has indicated the test was a failure, the results were bad, or that there was a major technical problem. From all reports, this test was a success. Of course we will have to wait until tomorrow for all of the information to be posted online, before we form a final conclusion.

    If this test was as successful as it seems, this could be the dawning of a new age. Perhaps in the next few days the results of this test will wake up the dumbstream media from their slumber, and force them to admit to the world that cold fusion is a reality.

    Keep checking here over the next few days for the latest news and information about the test! There is a flood of information that should be arriving over the next few days, and you can get all of the updates on this page!

    Updates and News Regarding October 6 Test

    (See also the Comments section at the bottom of the page. Feel free to post updates there.)

    October 6, 2011

    There are a few facts I think many people are not aware about the E-Cat module that is being tested. I think it is important that these facts are made known.

    1) Rossi has stated that the rated output for one of these reactors is 27 kilowatts, but for safety purposes during testing the devices will be throttled down to 1/3rd of that. The reason for this is that in self sustain mode E-Cats can "run away." This means that the output can become unstable, and can increase higher and higher. In torture tests, the units can explode.

    2) Due to the fact that there is a primary circuit that supplies heat to a secondary circuit through a heat exchanger, there will be some loss in efficiency. The efficiency of transferring the output energy from the E-Cat to the secondary circuit may be very low. So whatever the output is, the "real" output would be higher.

    3)The current E-Cat model being tested is not the "Fat Cat" E-Cat. The "Fat Cat" reactor is the model that has not yet been revealed, that will be attached to the output of the one megawatt plant, and will boost the output to one megawatt.

    4) The 52 modules that compose the one megawatt plant will not be the only modules used. An auxiliary unit will be attached to the output, to boost the output to one megawatt.

    -- Nocompromises 17:38, 6 October 2011 (PDT)

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    We posted #October 6, 2011 Summary above.

    -- SilverThunder 16:02, 6 October 2011 (PDT)

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    Here is a post by Daniele Passerini, that he made in the comment section of his blog.

    http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/10/...?commentPage=3

    @ All I see someone who continues to judge that is thought to be rather than what it is. Meanwhile, Bologna and Uppsala go forward, confident and even more convinced today than yesterday.

    The E-Cat warms, but the party is just beginning. It's a metaphor, of course, here it's over an hour and a half in advance and we're all leaving. I put my bike in between myself and a maximum of 3 hours I'll be home. Good evening to all.

    Over the next few days (but already starting tomorrow) will be released so much material produced here today that all the skeptics of the world are likely to go seriously overdose!

    -- Nocompromises 13:38, 6 October 2011 (PDT)

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    I get the feeling we are witnessing history. Like watching the Moon Landing back in the day . Exciting I would say. Monday could be a brand new day for us funny looking earthlings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Me-Ki-Gal View Post
    I get the feeling we are witnessing history. Like watching the Moon Landing back in the day . Exciting I would say. Monday could be a brand new day for us funny looking earthlings
    Hopefully it won't be a day that is remembered in imfamy.

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    Don't get too excited just yet.
    Yes, the ecat got very hot... but it uses an electric heating element to heat up!

    The last report we saw of the device in 'self sustaining mode', the device was cooling down, which doesn't sound self-sustaining at all. Maybe things were different this time, but we don't have enough info to tell.

    So, questions to be answered:
    How much heat was extracted from the device in 'self sustaining' mode?
    How much heat was lost from the device in 'self sustaining' mode?

    Or more concisely:
    How much energy went in?
    How much energy came out?

    Without that info, we can only make speculations not conclusions.

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    Odd that this is being completely ignored by the media.
    "Boffins with mad energy machine" should at least be a jokey end of news item.
    Is it a conspiracy?


    C J: And for our final item we go over to the University of Bologna, where batty Professor Rossi had an experiment that went a little too well.
    Kerry: That sounds just great CJ.


    Richard:Mmmh... Looks like he got his fingers burned on that one.
    Lily: Sure did. Ouch!
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    We'll only know for absolute definite when it is confirmed that it produces too much energy in that small a space to be a conventional reaction, and then when we know the catalyst, and others are able to make the devices.

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    Once I know the catalyst, I'll make one myself.
    I'll clear some space in my shed.
    Last edited by Captain Kremmen; 10-07-11 at 09:16 AM.

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    Here's a video of the 6th October test at Bologna from Ny Teknik.
    Apparently, it's a good result.


    http://media.shootitlive.com/talentu...PjV3Wq_768.mp4

    The e-cat looks like a large Christmas Turkey.
    A lot of the equipment is bound with tape.
    Any thoughts, sciforumers? I don't know what to make of it,

    Except an observation that if it was outright fakery, they could make it look very slick at little cost.
    This doesn't impress at all.
    Everything seems patched together.
    It looks genuine to me.

    I mean, if you were doing something to extract money out of the wallets of idiots,
    you'd make it look good wouldn't you? Not like something which is scraping money together, and patching and mending.
    Last edited by Captain Kremmen; 10-07-11 at 10:46 AM.

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    If this turns out to be true. . . .

    wait. . . .

    Don't we already have a fresh water shortage on the planet?

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    I don't know how the rest of you feel about this,
    but I feel excited to be enabled by the internet to be so close to such an experiment, and to be able to discuss it as it progresses,
    whether it turns out to be valuable or not.

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    Did that video say 600l and hour? Can you imagine every house in the U.S., not to mention the world using that much fresh water?

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    Did that video say 600l and hour? Can you imagine every house in the U.S., not to mention the world using that much fresh water?
    They are just using the water flow of 600l/hr through a heat exchanger to measure the energy output, that is not the amount of water used by the device to produce energy.

    The device itself doesn't need to use any water (they do heat water to make steam but they could condense and recirculate the steam generated if the device was in an area where water was scarce).

    Arthur

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    @Esotericist
    I don't think you have quite understood the experiment.
    What do you think it is about?

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