08-05-11, 10:35 AM #1
Rick Perry & The Christian Right
An interesting article from Mother Jones on the REALLY far, right wing movement (scroll to the bottom for the really good stuff):
What to Expect From Rick Perry's Prayer Festival
By Tim Murphy | Fri Aug. 5, 2011 3:00 AM PDT
On Saturday morning, Texas Governor Rick Perry will join Christian religious leaders at Reliant Stadium in Houston for a day of prayer and fasting for America. "With the economy in trouble, communities in crisis, and people adrift in a sea of moral relativism, we need God's help," Perry explained in a YouTube spot promoting the event. "That's why I'm calling on Americans to pray and fast, like Jesus did, and as God called the Israelites to do in the book of Joel."
Joel 2, the specific Old Testament chapter Perry is referring to, has a special meaning for many Evangelical Christians—and more specifically among a small but growing movement called the New Apostolic Reformation. Its adherents believe the nation has become unmoored from its moral foundations, and that our present misfortunes are a direct consequence. They believe it will take a new push by modern-day apostles—messengers who've received their instructions to directly from God—to put things back on course. And the apostles, as the Texas Observer's Forrest Wilder has detailed, believe Perry is one of them.
08-05-11, 11:31 AM #2
No surprises there about Japans suffering.
08-05-11, 03:09 PM #3
Beyond analogy?Originally Posted by Superstring01
I don't even have a good analogy for the difference.
Even the difference between now and Bush's inauguration is puzzling.
I mean, yes, I recognize that the Bachmanns, Perrys, and so on of the GOP still represent something a little bit off the main stream, but they're so damn powerful within the party that they really are mucking up the identity parameters.
To wit, we might say that it's unfair to bash the whole GOP for the words an actions of these people, but they seem more and more to be claiming the Republican banner, and what we might call the rational conservatives don't seem to be taking it back.
Which is curious, I suppose, because that makes the rational conservatives sound like Democrats for the appearance of staggering political inefficacy.
08-05-11, 03:32 PM #4
Hmm, I wonder if I will feel up to going down there to protest the loons after I get off work at 3 am.
Caffeine is my friend?
Edited to add: sign title- "I see wingnuts."
Last edited by chimpkin; 08-05-11 at 06:12 PM.
08-05-11, 06:07 PM #5
Originally Posted by Tiassa
You may remember the existence of "moderate Republicans" from your childhood, but they were being purged then and are gone now.
Bachmann, Perry, et al are not mucking up the identity parameters, but clarifying them. There has always been a fascistic faction in the US, a large one, and the Republican Party has been riding it to victory for more than a generation.
There has been little or no significant change in the Republican Party since W's inaugeration - revisit the political discourse during Reagan's campaign or Clinton's tenure for easy verification of that.
Last edited by superstring01; 08-05-11 at 11:45 PM. Reason: Edited post to show Tiassa as quoted, not me. No biggie.
08-05-11, 06:40 PM #6
Well there should be plenty of room there. It looks like they have only sold 1 out of ever 10 seats. So out of 75K available seats, they have only sold 8k.
08-12-11, 12:20 AM #7
Perry is running for President
That is some scary shit, eh?
On August 11, 2011, a spokesperson for Perry told the Associated Press that Perry is running for President. The spokesperson revealed that Perry is expected to announce his presidential bid Saturday, August 13.
08-12-11, 01:25 AM #8
"I almost wish that there would be, like, a simultaneous telecast, and all Americans would be forced — forced at gunpoint no less — to listen to every David Barton message, and I think our country would be better for it. I wish it’d happen." -Mike Huckabee, march 2011
08-12-11, 05:25 AM #9
David Barton is as close to evil as you get in political movements in the USA.
08-12-11, 05:58 AM #10
It amazes me that human society hasn't evolved to a point where the likes of Perry can simply be shot.
08-12-11, 06:10 AM #11
If you look at what Wisconson did and voted Republican in the last election and showed that they were fed up with the debt problems the state was having I can understand why why this attitude is being formed and can see this man as a Republican choice for President not because of his religious values but how he has organized his state and has created more jobs than anywhere in the US and has a much better economy than most other states. When states are always running debts and taxes are always being raised to pay expenses people get fed up no matter who is getting the paychecks especially those who insist upon 100,000.00 pensions and 60,000.00 paychecks or more with benifits and want to see that stopped.
08-18-11, 11:27 AM #12
08-18-11, 11:32 AM #13
And if you have not noticed, Wisconsin voted Democrat in the lastest Wisconsin elections with Republicans loosing two seats in the state senate.
08-18-11, 11:58 AM #14
Rick Perry reminds me an awful lot of that evil, insane senate candidate in the movie adaptation of Stephen King's "The Dead Zone". He definitely looks like he's out of his league though, with the way he shoots his mouth off. Still though, if a guy can win a presidential election based on a partisan court decision with less votes than his opponent, despite inexplicable gaps in his military, academic, criminal and medical records and plenty of not-so-flattering stories to fill those gaps... then Perry certainly has a fighting chance.
08-18-11, 05:45 PM #15
CA is close to adopting such a measure, which if it happens will put the effort within striking distance of succeeding. Note that it doesn't require all states to participate - just enough to get 270 electoral votes and so determine any Presidential election.
08-18-11, 05:54 PM #16
08-18-11, 06:33 PM #17
The liberals like to turn the electron process into a soap opera instead of a battle of skill. I suppose women like soap operas and liberal are feminine, therefore a soap star for president is their goal. I am more old fashion and think skill is more important than song and dance when the economic ship is sinking.
The liberals may be right Perry is not soap opera star material. He is more about skill which is not as important to liberals.
08-18-11, 06:39 PM #18
08-18-11, 06:41 PM #19
Bullshit. Republican politics are about winning, telling lies, stimulating irrational hate, and pushing our emotional buttons. Democratic politics are about solving problems for the people. The Republicans can't claim to do this since they don't represent the people, they represent their corporate donors.
08-18-11, 07:05 PM #20
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