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    wvw shape wing design

    so i was bored few weeks ago and i made paper rocket airplane.It looked random and i folded both wings so they make w shape(each wing has w shape).I threw it and instead of falling down or drasticly going up it was gliding really nicely.It flew about 20 seconds before crashing into another building without chanching height at all.I was really suprised .I made some resarch and i found out that plane like that wasnt build.
    So i wanna know can this design/idea succed?
    Plane can also be stealth cause of angles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blaster View Post
    so i was bored few weeks ago and i made paper rocket airplane.It looked random and i folded both wings so they make w shape(each wing has w shape).I threw it and instead of falling down or drasticly going up it was gliding really nicely.It flew about 20 seconds before crashing into another building without chanching height at all.I was really suprised .I made some resarch and i found out that plane like that wasnt build.
    So i wanna know can this design/idea succed?
    Plane can also be stealth cause of angles.
    Without actually seeing it , it is rather hard to help you. Take a look here to see if it was already done. They don't show all designs but many.

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&b...qi=g1&aql=&oq=

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    Why would anyone make a plane with that wing shape? It's extra mass (i.e. the wing structure would be "longer" for a given span than an "ordinary" wing).
    There have been a number of aircraft that have had significantly downturned wing "tips" (up to around 1/3rd of the semi-span each side) - XB-70 for one, which helped by adding compression lift, and an inverted "v" design (the caret wing) was an outcome of Nonweiler's waverider studies.

    There have been studies where the wing was "M" shaped in plan view (late '50s/ early '60s British designs).
    Last edited by Dywyddyr; 05-04-11 at 03:12 PM.

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    “Without actually seeing it , it is rather hard to help you. Take a look here to see if it was already done. They don't show all designs but many. “


    i didnt find it here,ill post picture but someone needs to tell me how

    “Why would anyone make a plane with that wing shape? It's extra mass (i.e. the wing structure would be "longer" for a given span than an "ordinary" wing).“

    by folding paper you dont add extra mass,cause wings mass would be the same but wings would be longer

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    i didnt find it here,ill post picture but someone needs to tell me how
    Take a digital picture of the wings as best you can then copy them into your computer. After you did that then go to Image Shack and upload them there. Once you have uploaded your images to Image Shack you will need to find the way to copy them from that site that they will explain how to do that and copy that link. After copying the link at Image Shack you come back here and follow the directions as to how to post pictures here.

    Here is the link to Image Shack:


    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...xOGr4rkGovxKvQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by blaster View Post
    so i was bored few weeks ago and i made paper rocket airplane.It looked random and i folded both wings so they make w shape(each wing has w shape).I threw it and instead of falling down or drasticly going up it was gliding really nicely.It flew about 20 seconds before crashing into another building without chanching height at all.I was really suprised .I made some resarch and i found out that plane like that wasnt build.
    So i wanna know can this design/idea succed?
    Plane can also be stealth cause of angles.
    Mybe the wind was strong enough to keep it going. Did you throw it several times to check it wasnt a fluke?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blaster View Post
    by folding paper you dont add extra mass,cause wings mass would be the same but wings would be longer
    Agreed. But you asked "i found out that plane like that wasnt build.
    So i wanna know can this design/idea succed?".
    I.e. in the "real world" (non-paper aeroplanes) the structure would be heavier.
    I would imagine that you're getting some "compression lift" (or at least a facsimile thereof) with your design*, but it's also starting flight in the air. Take-off performance is directly related to span loading, so a short-span heavy aircraft will have much more trouble getting off the ground than an aircraft of equivalent weight but longer span.

    * And the numerous "vertical" surfaces would help stability/ directional control at a guess too.

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    “Mybe the wind was strong enough to keep it going. Did you throw it several times to check it wasnt a fluke? “
    I also gave it a try indoors without wind.It was the same.

    Ill try to make a model plane.

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    imageshack doesnt work for me,any other way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blaster View Post
    “Mybe the wind was strong enough to keep it going. Did you throw it several times to check it wasnt a fluke? “
    I also gave it a try indoors without wind.It was the same.

    Ill try to make a model plane.
    Did you follow my advice?

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    yes,but i cant upload them on imageshack

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    Why not? Defective mouse? European keyboard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinwheel View Post
    Hmm, I read it as W-shaped when viewed from the front (or rear).

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    http :// imageshack .us /photo/my-images/196/unledsz.png/
    here it is,its rough design
    i have bellow 20 posts so i cant put link full

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    Quote Originally Posted by blaster View Post
    http :// imageshack .us /photo/my-images/196/unledsz.png/
    here it is,its rough design
    i have bellow 20 posts so i cant put link full
    http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9514/unledsz.png

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    So good it's posted twice!

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    Wow yes lets everybody show the newb how awesome we are at posting teh images!

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