Why the belief?

Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by praty, Apr 27, 2011.

  1. praty Registered Member

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    The fear of Death and Unknown creates a belief that we will be able to survive our own death. This is core belief of most of the religions, and if it was required earlier(centuries before) to believe this, why does it still persists? Why can't us humans admit that we don't know rather than putting our faiths in books written by people for whom wheel-barrow would be an emerging technology?
     
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  3. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Because we're not so sure of our ignorance after all.
     
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  5. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    Faith was forced upon me I can't help it.

    peace.
     
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  7. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    How do you figure that?
     
  8. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    my faith is the result of happenings while alive, not thoughts on, or fears of, death.
     
  9. YoYoPapaya Trump/Norris - 2012 Registered Senior Member

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    Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/6032960
     
  10. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    You do realize that the article offers absolutely nothing, much like praty's post, in regards to establishing how the presence of fear necessarily renders belief in a solution to it imaginary or baseless or whatever?
     
  11. YoYoPapaya Trump/Norris - 2012 Registered Senior Member

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    English please
     
  12. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    Just explain what makes you think solutions to fear are imaginary and you will have the beginning of a coherent argument

    Referencing some one else who also has the same gaping holes in the ir argument simply makes the problems within yours more pronounced
     
  13. YoYoPapaya Trump/Norris - 2012 Registered Senior Member

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    Speaking of coherent.... Your posts are a mess as usual.

    Say what you want directly. I assume you disagree with the article. Why?
     
  14. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    what part of the question "explain what makes you think solutions to fear are imaginary" are you having difficulty with?
     
  15. YoYoPapaya Trump/Norris - 2012 Registered Senior Member

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    It doesn't make sense to me. Could you ask it in a different manner?

    Also could you tell me why you disagree that people subconsciously believe their own immortality?
     
  16. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    Ok lets take it r...e...a...l... slow.

    Do you see the notion of having an after life as a solution to death (never mind whether you think its real or imaginary .... we will get to that later)

    I am not disagreeing with that.

    I am disagreeing with categorizing it as necessarily imagination or catalyzed purely by dire need... or as praty says in the OP

    The fear of Death and Unknown creates a belief that we will be able to survive our own death.
     
  17. praty Registered Member

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    light,

    The people who truly believe in afterlife like the Egyptians, who were most famous for it, have no other reason to do so.
     
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  18. praty Registered Member

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    Well its high time we should be.
     
  19. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Being sure of one's ignorance is a contradiction in terms.
     
  20. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    You will need to explain this, please.

    I see no necessary correlation between fear of death and belief in one's immortality.
     
  21. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    so you think if fear plays apart in granting value to a solution, the solution is necessarily farcical?

    so for instance, solutions to disease partake of the same farcical nature you attribute to religion since whatever erodes health and well being is a cause of fear?
     
  22. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    Praty has not said at any point that the solution is necessarily farcical, nor can anything he has said be implied as such.

    The point is that the holding of the belief, as part of a solution or otherwise, gives no credence to the tenet of the belief, but nor does it refute that tenet in any way.

    You really do like using inappropriate / fallacious analogies to help create and destroy your strawmen, don't you.
     
  23. praty Registered Member

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    Why else would someone want to be immortal? A wishful thinking that can't be asserted in any way, rather than admitting it's not possible to ever find out and live without fear of death, judgment and eternity.

    Don't stray, i wish to sort out the reason for believe in supernatural with no evidence and no chance of getting any evidence.
     

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