"Atheist proves god does exist"

[Jan Ardena]

It isn't. Unless you have evidence otherwise?

Nothing exists witout consciousness.

jan.

[spidergoat]

Matter existed during the 10 billion years before life arose on Earth.

[Enmos]

Enmos,

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Go to a religious site.

No. You made the claim here. Can you show me this proof you're talking about?

[Jan Ardena]

No. You made the claim here. Can you show me this proof you're talking about?

I made the claim within a context.
The religious sites are full with claim of god's existence.

jan.

[Enmos]

I made the claim within a context.
The religious sites are full with claim of god's existence.

jan.

The context:

I do agree though, that an atheist will likely be the one to prove God, just as it was a theist that popularized the Problem of Evil.

God has already been proven, it's just that you don't accept it.

I do not see how the context exonerates you from supporting your claim.

[Jan Ardena]

The context:
I do not see how the context exonerates you from supporting your claim.

If you go to religious sites, it will become clear.

Remember I'm the one who made the claim, so I know what I mean.

jan.

[Jan Ardena]

Matter existed during the 10 billion years before life arose on Earth.

What makes you think there was no conscious observer?

jan

[Enmos]

If you go to religious sites, it will become clear.

You made the claim. That means that you have to substantiate it, instead of telling me to do all the work.

Remember I'm the one who made the claim, so I know what I mean.

Yes, I do remember
So how about you start supporting it?

[Jan Ardena]

You made the claim. That means that you have to substantiate it, instead of telling me to do all the work.


Yes, I do remember
So how about you start supporting it?

That is the claim, hence you wont accept it.
Don't you get it?

jan.

[spidergoat]

What makes you think there was no conscious observer?

jan

What makes you think there was, or had to be?

[Enmos]

That is the claim, hence you wont accept it.
Don't you get it?

jan.

No, I don't get it. Why don't you explain it to me?

[Jan Ardena]

What makes you think there was, or had to be?

Nothing exists without consciousness?

jan

[Jan Ardena]

No, I don't get it. Why don't you explain it to me?

God reveals Himself through the Qur'an to the prophet Muhammad (pbuh)?

Do you agree?

jan.

[Dywyddyr]

Nothing exists without consciousness?
jan

That's the second time (at least) that you've said that.
It's a supposition.

[Jan Ardena]

That's the second time (at least) that you've said that.
It's a supposition.

How so?

jan.

[Dywyddyr]

How so?
jan.

It's quite simple: you no evidence to support it.

[spidergoat]

Nothing exists without consciousness?

jan

This appears to be a statement of faith.

[Jan Ardena]

This appears to be a statement of faith.

Why?

jan.

[Dywyddyr]

Why?
jan.

It's quite simple: you no evidence to support it.

[spidergoat]

Ditto. Put up or shut up.