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    The most uncivilized people on earth?

    Who are the most uncivilized people on earth?

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    football hooligans

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    My in-laws.

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    N i g e r i a n s

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    Most of Southeast Asia.

    Some really horrible countries:

    China
    Taiwan
    Hong Kong
    Korea
    Malaysia
    Phillipines
    Viet Nam
    Thailand
    Singapore
    And yes, those scamming bastards in Nigeria

    Basically, these countries are some of the world's worst human rights abusers currently. They also have hands down some of the highest rates of human trafficking in world history.

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    We should define the word first. If this definition isn't the one the OP was thinking about then they should define their word better.

    uncivilized, uncivilised [ʌnˈsɪvɪˌlaɪzd]
    adj

    1. (Social Science / Anthropology & Ethnology) (of a tribe or people) not yet civilized, esp preliterate

    2. lacking culture or sophistication.



    In my wildest imagination, those pictures of the so called UNCONTACTED TRIBES seems not true.I believe in their long years in the jungle they have HISTORY passed on by their ancestors from one generation to another.Moving from place to place inside the jungle means that they are aware o f others existence.They have language, system in survival, etc., they are creatures that made them adapt with the life in the forest.I am sure they talk and asking how to mingle and how to adopt others tribe ways of life.Who knows they think of us like other tribes just few kilometers away.


    Why not the government of Brazil form a commission to help those tribes.Careful studies will help us to come closer to them and will learn more about them and vice versa.Let say...send group of misionaries, bring them the tools like shovels, picks, rakes,varieties of fruit seeds and vegetables,.... they need hem to survive in the jungle if they dont want to move closer to our so called civilized society,Easier said than done but if we really want them to survive we should share to them the BENEFIT of every inventions ever made for us be they simple or technical.There is nothing funny about them, they deserve help.Remember hundreds of TRIBES are existing in deep jungle of Amazon that needs help, those pictured were only but few.

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...so2sVnb2FIo1gA

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    Quote Originally Posted by thechunk View Post
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    Generally, most sub-Saharan Africans, using the second meaning of the term defined above by cosmictraveller.

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    Uncivilised by which standard?

    What is being used to measure here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skaught View Post
    Members of sciforums.

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    To put this in context, I would say that the most civilized people are the Amish et al.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexb123 View Post
    To put this in context, I would say that the most civilized people are the Amish et al.
    But your question, which you didn't bother to answe, was uncivilized. So who do you think are the most uncivilized then?

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    Cosmic I'm not sure, its a very difficult question.

    For example some Tribes will still eat members of other Tribes, which does seem as uncivilized as you could get. However, within their own tribe they have a highly developed and civilized social structure.

    The second most barbaric thing I have ever witnessed, via the internet is this:

    *strong warning very graphic content*

    [link removed by moderator following complaints about its disturbing content.]

    But is this the act of a few or is this a cultural issue? Are these people civilized when not burning others to death?

    Milgram proved to us that civilized people can commit acts of evil.
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    The tribes that live in the Omo Valley in southern Ethiopia would be a good example. They don't take too well to being patronised though: they have a lot of hate for the European tourists who travel there in order to observe them like monkeys.

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    i find it very interesting why it's always the asian and african countries which are considered the most uncivilized by western thought but the middle-east is almost never mentioned as well as south america. that's a gross miscalculation there so the judgement cannot be taken seriously either. in the middle-east, there women are notoriously oppressed as well as their customs are often extremely primitive and barbaric. it is amazingly barbaric. as for south america, there is a horrendous amount of human rights violations as well as human trafficking as well as heavy drug trafficking and extreme corruption.



    Most of Southeast Asia.

    Some really horrible countries:


    China
    Taiwan
    Hong Kong
    Korea
    Malaysia
    Phillipines
    Viet Nam
    Thailand
    Singapore
    And yes, those scamming bastards in Nigeria

    Basically, these countries are some of the world's worst human rights abusers currently. They also have hands down some of the highest rates of human trafficking in world history.
    china, taiwan, korea and singapore are not southeast asian countries nor are they all uncivilized. north or south korea? hong kong, singapore, malaysia and taiwan are uncivilized??? are you nuts?

    why is it you don't mention the middle-east where they murder their daughters for even looking at a another male among other extreme practices? or how about how they will flog and murder a woman for "being" raped by seeing her as the culprit? do you see that happening in these asian countries youl listed? NO. and why didn't you mention india? have you been to india? do you know how brutal their caste system is? most of the countries you list are not anywhere near that level of barbarism. how about mexico? have you been to mexico? afghanistan? iraq? or even iran? you think that these countries are less uncivilized than places like hong kong, singapore, malaysia, vietnam etc?? anyone with a modicum of sanity would know that the latter countries are far more safe to travel to and live in than most of the middle-east and south america is not any less uncivilized than many southeast asian countries. on the contrary, some are even more civilized. why is it only that east asian countries are focused on as well as africa by westerners?

    is the middle-east and south america not mentioned because they are caucasoids and east asian and african countries are not?? is this the extent of your lame reasoning process? because that is the only flagrant and obvious distinction.

    it's quite ridiculous how westerners are always pegging only some countries or cultures as "uncivilized" while simultaneously completely ignoring others, some of which could be far worse. how can we even trust such cartoony western judgement of other cultures?? it's quite laughable.

    also, realistically, there is usually no such thing as 'uncivilized people' in one country vs another as it boils down to how a countries laws are as well as enforced. there are both uncivilized and civilized people in every country. again, it's the laws that dictate what will transpire more or less in any given country but the nature of what motivates is still inherently there. in even civilized countries today, in the past there was much barbarism and human rights violations. any country or culture will devolve into mayhem or reveal these barbaric inclinations without the laws to suppress it or channel it into other positive actions as well as education to alleviate most superstition or ignorance which could have disastrous outcomes.

    there is human trafficking, drug trafficking, and all types of crime committed and corruption in even so-called civilized countries. why? because there are both civilized and uncivilized people in any country. again, it's the nature of the laws which mitigate the most extreme acts and outcome of this evil side of nature.
    Last edited by birch; 03-06-11 at 12:17 PM.

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    What about George Bush and others going to war in Iraq? What about Hitler? Can a country be classed as civilized when there is so much blood on their hands?

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    The Burmese. A military dictatorship, regular disappearances of any opposition, the jailing of a Nobel peace prize winner. No human rights to speak of and an atmosphere of fear and oppression. It's also very hot, humid and jungled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexb123 View Post
    Who are the most uncivilized people on earth?
    So you do not believe in different civilizations?
    Than in a single and which must taken as the reference standard?

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    It's also very hot, humid and jungled.
    what does this have to do with anything? is tar turf and ugly strip malls and poor zoning with lots of superfluous and ill-thought out stores better with pollution? no.

    industrialization and civilized are two different aspects. there could be a civilized, kind and humane person living in a hut somewhere and a cold, ruthless inhumane bastard living in a gleaming hi-rise with all the modern amenities just as well.

    anyways, tropical areas are teeming with natural beauty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by birch View Post
    what does this have to do with anything? is tar turf and ugly strip malls and poor zoning with lots of superfluous and ill-thought out stores better with pollution? no.

    industrialization and civilized are two different aspects. there could be a civilized, kind and humane person living in a hut somewhere and a cold, ruthless inhumane bastard living in a gleaming hi-rise with all the modern amenities just as well.

    anyways, tropical areas are teeming with natural beauty.
    Civilized is generally taken as meaning urbanized after the greek root of the word.
    Was there any point in your post? No. I knew I put you on my ignore list for a reason..

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