How and why do angels fight?

[Enmos]

Angels can't die just like our souls can't die, you cannot destroy this type of energy it is forever. Yes I am correcting the claims you cited of Jan.



Peace.

Ok, but then it's still illogical for them to fight. It doesn't seem to have any purpose.

[Dywyddyr]

The semicolon is used to separate coordinate elements, usually independent clauses. It functions more like a weak period than like a strong comma.
"You should apply for that job; you have the qualifications, and you are not happy in your present job. "

Correct.
But didn't you miss something out?

1. Use a semicolon between independent clauses if the clauses are closely related

Maybe you should have read the full thing.

And, as I previously pointed out, the semi colon was NOT present in the quotes I gave, nor in a large number of those on the linked page.
You are (once again) being dishonest, either deliberately or through blind intent on preserving your ignorance.

[Jan Ardena]

Enmos,

I'm not sure what you mean.
You claimed that heaven is a physical place in this universe, did you not?
Then how is it that this place cannot be arrived at by physical means?

From the vedic perspective, heaven is a region within the universe, comprised of many different planets and lifestyles. The region is higher up in the universe than ours, and as such would take generations of years to reach.

So if souls always existed, what are they? And why is God meddling with them since he has got nothing to do with them being 'in existence'?

Souls are individual separated parts an parcels of the supreme soul.
They (we) have made the choice to become separated and independant of God.

jan.

[EmptyForceOfChi]

Ok, but then it's still illogical for them to fight. It doesn't seem to have any purpose.

I didn't say angels fight i said they don't fight they do as they are commanded.


Peace.

[Enmos]

From the vedic perspective, heaven is a region within the universe, comprised of many different planets and lifestyles. The region is higher up in the universe than ours, and as such would take generations of years to reach.

But then, according to you, it can be done in theory.

Souls are individual separated parts an parcels of the supreme soul.
They (we) have made the choice to become separated and independant of God.

But that doesn't answer the question.
However, it raises a number of other (off-topic) ones.

[Enmos]

I didn't say angels fight i said they don't fight they do as they are commanded.


Peace.

No, but the OP did. So if they fight they do so because God commanded them to. To what end?

[Jan Ardena]

Correct.
But didn't you miss something out?

Maybe you should have read the full thing.

And, as I previously pointed out, the semi colon was NOT present in the quotes I gave, nor in a large number of those on the linked page.
You are (once again) being dishonest, either deliberately or through blind intent on preserving your ignorance.

Here is a link to the whole text.

The last quote you gave was preceded by a semi colon which was at the end of the line before, so would have no reason to be present on the quote you gave.

You were/are being dishonest by assuming angels don't die without looking into the context, and finding out what it could possibly meaning given the explanations in the bible (my quotes), and the explanation given in other scriptures.

jan.

[Enmos]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...o_Reni_031.jpg

Perhaps they just have swords and chains to kill human beings
Anyway, I'm guessing the image of angels bearing swords and possibly fighting each other just stems from 'artist impressions'.

[tashja]

No, but the OP did. So if they fight they do so because God commanded them to. To what end?

My point exactly, Enmos--why do they fight?

[Jan Ardena]

But then, according to you, it can be done in theory.


But that doesn't answer the question.
However, it raises a number of other (off-topic) ones.

In terms of distance maybe, I don't know.
But the beings that reside in these regions are qualitively different
from us (namely higher consciousness), and as such their bodies are exactly
suited to that regiion (planet), like our bodies are suited to this planet.

If a heavenly day is equal to 10,000 of our years, is it possible to calculate how far that place is?

jan.

[EmptyForceOfChi]

No, but the OP did. So if they fight they do so because God commanded them to. To what end?

Hmm if god commanded them to fight then he wanted them to fight?, but they didn't, I don't know if they will in the future.


peace/

[EmptyForceOfChi]

My point exactly, Enmos--why do they fight?

They Don't.


peace.

[Dywyddyr]

Here is a link to the whole text.

One selected text. I gave a large sample.
Fail.

The last quote you gave was preceded by a semi colon which was at the end of the line before, so would have no reason to be present on the quote you gave.

If the semi colon preceded what I quoted then the RELEVANT PORTION of what I quoted did not include a semi colon.
And, as shown, it doesn't matter whether a semi colon is there or not, since the inclusion of a semi colon does not negate the statement. Despite your dishonest (or ignorant) attempts to show otherwise.
Fail.

You were/are being dishonest by assuming angels don't die without looking into the context, and finding out what it could possibly meaning given the explanations in the bible (my quotes), and the explanation given in other scriptures.

Wrong. As shown. It explicitly states that angels don't die.
And, one more time, your quotes (saying they do) simply show that the bible contradicts itself.
And another fail.

[Enmos]

In terms of distance maybe, I don't know.
But the beings that reside in these regions are qualitively different
from us (namely higher consciousness), and as such their bodies are exactly
suited to that regiion (planet), like our bodies are suited to this planet.

How do you know all of this?

If a heavenly day is equal to 10,000 of our years, is it possible to calculate how far that place is?

jan.

No, it's just tells us that the supposed planet revolves around its axis in 3,650,000 Earth days.

[Enmos]

My point exactly, Enmos--why do they fight?

My answer would be: Because people fight.
But that implicates something that might not sit very well with some of the people posting in this thread

[EmptyForceOfChi]

One selected text. I gave a large sample.
Fail.


If the semi colon preceded what I quoted then the RELEVANT PORTION OF WHAT I quoted did not include a semi colon.
And, as shown, it doesn't matter that if a semi colon is there or not, since the inclusion of a semi colon does not negate the statement. Despite your dishonest (or ignorant) attempts to show otherwise.
fail.


Wrong. As shown. It explicitly states that angels don't die.
And, one more time, your quotes (saying they do) simply show that the bible contradicts itself.
And another fail.

Could you try being less negative, also be polite especialyto theladiesit'snot Gentleman-Like, you don't have to keep telling people they fail, also you don't even believe in Angels, why are you debating `fairy tales in such depth.


Hope

[Enmos]

Hmm if god commanded them to fight then he wanted them to fight?, but they didn't, I don't know if they will in the future.


peace/

Huh? It's in the bible, right? Angels fight.

[EmptyForceOfChi]

Huh? It's in the bible, right? Angels fight.

You believe all thats in the Bible?


peace.

[Enmos]

You believe all thats in the Bible?


peace.

Less than you do, I'm afraid.

[EmptyForceOfChi]

Less then you do, I'm afraid.

I don't get why you are asking detailed questions abouta certain aspect of it then unless you think it might be true. For instance how-much focus do you put into debating about tom and jerry or jack and the bean stalk?.

The bible is roughly 50% lies anywayit's not even written from any eye witness accounts, the story's are like chinese whispers and mingled facts and legends with added lies and confusion.


peace.