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09-22-11, 10:17 AM #361
The perceieved slowing down of the clock is an effect of acceleration and the nature of space-time.
Try looking here for more info.
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09-22-11, 10:27 AM #362Valued Senior Member
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09-22-11, 10:29 AM #363
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09-22-11, 10:51 AM #364Valued Senior Member
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Your post #362 says : " The perceieved slowing down of the clock is an effect of acceleration and the nature of space-time. " --- These are your words , i am quoting again .
Your above quoted statement suggests : the space-ship with the clock on-board is accelerating through space-time . This effect is slowing down the clock .
Am I right perceiving your statement ?
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09-22-11, 10:55 AM #365
Not quite: I'm a better speller than that.
It depends.Your above quoted statement suggests : the space-ship with the clock on-board is accelerating through space-time . This effect is slowing down the clock .
What do you refer to with the words "this effect"?
I have no idea.Am I right perceiving your statement ?
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09-22-11, 11:01 AM #366Valued Senior Member
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09-26-11, 09:17 AM #367Valued Senior Member
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Time-dilation is caused due to relative speed between two clocks . When this relative speed becomes significant, timings of the two clocks differs . This difference between two clocks is called time-dilation . So, time-dilation is caused by relative-speed and not by time itself . Time does not slow down to cause time-dilation . So, time is uniform .
Recent discovery of sub-atomic particle 'neutrino' travelling faster than light also supports this conclusion that , time is uniform .
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09-26-11, 09:25 AM #368
Define "uniform" when you have already stated that time dilation occurs.
How does it support this conclusion? And bear in mind that the speed of the neutrino is still subject to confirmation.Recent discovery of sub-atomic particle 'neutrino' travelling faster than light also supports this conclusion that , time is uniform .
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09-26-11, 10:02 AM #369Valued Senior Member
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When the cesium clock is static , its oscillation is uniform . When the cesium clock is accelerated to a significant speed , its oscillation slows down . This difference in oscillation is indicated as time-dilation .
"How does it support this conclusion? "
Neutrino particle is at significant speed and does not slow down . This is in contrary to the assumption of time-dilation , that at significant speed of a mass , time itself slows down to slow down the speed of a mass .
"And bear in mind that the speed of the neutrino is still subject to confirmation."
Even if it is not yet confirmed , the neutrino particle with a non-zero mass could achieve a near-light speed .
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09-26-11, 11:35 AM #370
In other words time is not uniform.
You mean dilate in time? Evidence please.Neutrino particle is at significant speed and does not slow down
And this refers to... what?Even if it is not yet confirmed , the neutrino particle with a non-zero mass could achieve a near-light speed .
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09-26-11, 01:06 PM #371
Correct.
No, I think you are a bit confused here. At relativiistic speeds time slows down for the relative moving mass. In other words if there is a space ship going 99% the speed of light the time will slow dramatically for the ship relative to a stationary observer. The ship will not move slower, but time ONBOARD the ship will move slower. Otherwise the you would have a situation where the faster you go the slower you go which makes no sense at all!Neutrino particle is at significant speed and does not slow down . This is in contrary to the assumption of time-dilation , that at significant speed of a mass , time itself slows down to slow down the speed of a mass .
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09-26-11, 02:35 PM #372Valued Senior Member
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09-26-11, 02:55 PM #373Valued Senior Member
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time is just the mathematical dimension to measure and predict the movement of objects
which is based on the Nature of the object(s) themselves
thats all time is
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09-26-11, 02:55 PM #374Valued Senior Member
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Pretty sure he was closer to correct, but to clarify...
The observer on the ship moving at 99% c will experience time at a rate slower than that of an observer stationary relative to the ship.
The traveling twin ages less than the stationary twin?
The spaceships velocity remains the same. The distance it travels remains the same. But the observer on the ship will experience less time elapsed during the trip.
Sometimes it helps to try and understand what someone means, rather than to read literally what the say.
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09-26-11, 03:02 PM #375Valued Senior Member
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to the object time is irrelevant
time is about the relative perspective of us , to towards others and /or objects
thats all
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09-26-11, 03:14 PM #376Valued Senior Member
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09-26-11, 03:28 PM #377Valued Senior Member
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