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01-26-11, 11:45 PM #47
How can Fox News (Views) be so popular? This scares the shit out of me, are people so easily manipulated by these dingleberries? Fox commentators are always touting their ratings, talking about how great they are, but in reality many Americans have just lost the ability to reason. Idiocracy!
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01-27-11, 06:26 AM #48
It is interesting that the best talking heads on the cabel news are all gay:
--Cooper on CNN
--Shepard Smith on Fox (the only watchable guy on Fox)
--Maddow on MSNBCLast edited by Syzygys; 01-27-11 at 06:37 AM.
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01-27-11, 07:16 AM #49keith1Guest
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01-27-11, 09:02 AM #50Valued Senior Member
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Why would you bother inventing unhinged thoughts for other people's heads?
Originally Posted by willnever
The removal of Olbermann and his replacement by somebody like Cooper is of course a small win for the new media order, in its insurgent cleanup phase post conquest, but the representation of the authoritarian right involved is on this forum and in other commentary. Cooper isn't calling himself a sex kitten.
And the homoerotic component is going to be a stereotype, an ID reference, at this rate - it's been a standing joke fro a while on the military W/Jeff Gannon side of things, of course, but the media side seems suddenly more prominent. Or have I been missing a longtime feature?Last edited by iceaura; 01-27-11 at 09:12 AM.
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01-27-11, 11:36 AM #52Registered Senior Member
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01-28-11, 11:37 AM #53
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01-28-11, 11:41 AM #54
Is this something you're predicting, something you are hoping for, or both? Why would you prefer a fat, nerdy-looking, and grossly biased face who merely comments on events to a more neutral-acting face who actually reports news without the editorial? One of these people is credible and the other is remarkably not credible. As a liberal, I know which I prefer.
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01-28-11, 11:53 AM #55
Was Olbermann a loose cannon? Was he fired because someone thought he wasn't controllable?
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01-28-11, 01:06 PM #56Valued Senior Member
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That's OK - it isn't something you can, or need to, think about.
Originally Posted by willnever
We, on the other hand, do know what you mean by referring to Olbermann as fat and a loudmouth, grossly biased, and simultaneously nerdy, and so forth. You mean to project from Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and the like, as the balance of your world requires "both sides" of your fantasy frame to mirror each other.
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01-28-11, 01:19 PM #57
Who is "we?" Don't you mean you? Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh are equally fat, nerdy, loud, and grossly biased... or have you not noticed? If you like those fat losers as well as you like Keith Olbermann (which I am guessing is a lot?), then you might not be certain of what you believe. The figures you are defending are in ideological opposition to each other on most issues, but they are equivalent in grotesque bias. Truth.
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01-28-11, 01:58 PM #58Valued Senior Member
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This is the third or fourth recent such post, from you. Sometime when you have a few minutes, you should revisit your history of such guesswork and remove it from the basis of your reality. One of the weird things about you guys is your custom of taking your own idiotic speculations and projections about other people's thinking as data, information obtained from a reliable source. You tend to remember them as if you had observed them, rather than inventing them.
Originally Posted by willnever
The compilation then takes over your responses and warps your comprehension, closing your mind into a set of self-referential loops - you become unable to read what other people write, reply to what they are posting, etc.
The observation was that Olbermann isn't particularly fat, or loudmouthed, or gross, for example. If Beck and Limbaugh were not fat and loudmouthed and gross, would anyone use those terms for Olbermann? - there would be no reason to. Other, more accurate, disparagements would suffice. He has plenty of faults - invention is unnecessary.
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01-28-11, 02:18 PM #59Who is "you guys?" You also haven't answered who "we" was referring to. Why am I not surprised? You may want to specify ideas of reference instead of inventing groups.
Originally Posted by ice
Olbermann is rather loud, as far as self-appointed demagogues go. He's also fat. Not especially fatter or louder than Beck and Limbaugh, but still in the general loud and fat grouping. He also "eats his own." Who remembers when Olbermann went on a merciless assault against Hillary Clinton in 2008, while at the same time promoting the far less progressive and less liberal Obama? I do. It was one of the most immature examples of favoring one potential democratic nominee over another and attempting to influence the outcome accordingly.
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01-28-11, 02:34 PM #60Valued Senior Member
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He's not particularly loud (especially when compared with "self-appointed demagogues") and he's not particularly fat, despite his lack of athletic life and health/mobility issues. I'm sorry, but there it is - I've watched the show, seen the guy walk around on the TV (which makes people look fatter, not thinner, than they are - one reason Limbaugh can't take his show on camera).
Originally Posted by willnever
So the problem with Olbermann is that he's not sufficiently loyal to people you have decided are on his team?
Originally Posted by willnever
See, the source for the bizarre notion that Clinton is Olbermann's "own" is your own guesswork and projections of the past. You need to purge this history of guesswork and error from the part of your mind labeled "reality". You invented that shit, and it will not do as basis for analysis of actual events and real people.
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