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The story of Jesus is pertinent today 2000 years later and speaks to the life we are living.
So the fact that Romans were killing people because of their beliefs you find it strange the gospels didn't surface for 30 years? Are books written about mid 20th century people now not valid?
12-27-10, 05:22 PM #87
You would have some guts writing about a man glorifying him as king while these same people were fed to lions.
12-27-10, 05:25 PM #88
You make wild accusations claiming people have read books certian books. You don't have esp and you fail to support your claims.
12-27-10, 05:28 PM #89
Did John the Bsbtist even know how to write? Recently I saw a show that portrayed him as a homeless man living off the land. Yet his story is a topic for conversation 2000 years later, his message, what was accomplished.
12-27-10, 05:29 PM #90
So like I said - you have already decided that the opposition is INSANE !
A really great argument Lori.
Do you really not know what motives people have for writing religious books?
Did the the writer of the Gita have an insane motive?
Did the the writer of the Upanishads have an insane motive?
Did the the writer of the Hercules myths have an insane motive?
Did the the writer of the Old Testament have an insane motive?
Do you really believe that any religious book was written for an insane motive?
I don't think you understand a word I say :-(
12-27-10, 05:47 PM #91
How LONG after?
What is your EVIDENCE?
The evidence does NOT support your claim.
There is NO evidence that Constantine set the date to 25th December.
History records this belief as starting in 354 AD.
Your claim is wrong. But you can't admit it.
What a joke ! Now you are reduced to bleating that there is no evidence AGAINST your claim !
Can you prove Constantine was NOT a space alien, joe?
History does NOT work that way - you are essentially admitting you have NO evidence, but pretending you are still right!
The evidence we DO have shows you are wrong.
So joe - when is the FIRST evidence for a Sol Invictus holiday on December 25th?
Do you know the answer?
I doubt it.
The answer is : 354 AD !
YOU claim Constantine set the birthdate of Jesus to December 25th to match the Sol Invictus holiday.
There is NO evidence for a 25th December Sol Invictus holday until decades AFTER Constantine.
there is NO evidence for Christians celebrating on December 25th until 354AD either !
But you never knew those facts, did you joe?
And now you can't admit it.
I admitted my error above in attributing a post - it happens sometimes.
But when I pointed out YOUR errors - and your response is falsehoods and abuse.
I did NOT say you specifically HAD read The Da Vinci Code - I said books LIKE that because there are many such books and web sites - but you will never admit that will you? Because you are pathologically unable to admit ANY error.
You will continue to go on and on and on about that The Da Vince Code issue, you'll never ever admit I said books LIKE that. Because that would mean admitting you were wrong.
Nor will you ever admit you were wrong about Constantine.
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12-27-10, 06:05 PM #96
Of course the Lone Ranger existed cause he was in moving picture shows.
Although he did wear a mask. So really we'll never know for sure.
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12-27-10, 06:14 PM #98
(you also joe..)
Sadly, you don't check the facts - you just repeat crap you read in nonsense books like The Da Vinci Code.
But you can't admit your errors when pointed out.
there have been non-believers here on this forum that have put forth evidence that jesus did NOT exist..
other non-believers have pulled the evidence card also, both knowing that there would be no evidence to put forth..so to say that you require evidence in incorrect, what would be more accurate would be to say ' i just want you to see that there is no evidence'...
My point is that BELIEF proves nothing.
Repeating claims about Christian BELIEFS proves nothing other than what Christians BELIEVE.
i am sure there are many times in your life that you have to make a decision without any proof ..what is it that determines your choice then?
the choices we make in our daily lives do not come with guarantees, yet these are the ones that hurt the most..
but when it comes to belief about jesus and god why is it such a harder decision? there is actually LOTS more information on god and jesus than there is when one has to make those daily decisions..
To convince others - you need evidence and argument - not just more beliefs.
not everyone needs evidence or proof..the fact that you are arguing 'to convince others' says that you have not made a decision, you say you need more evidence and proof to be convinced, why it it such a thing to get hung-up about..whether you believe or not, you are still gonna be the same person you are right now..believeing is NOT a commitment to others rules..
there are as many churches as there are attitudes about who/what god is, both none and all is correct..(i have tried to explain this, apparently i barely understand it..)
anyway..ill stop now..
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