12-06-10, 11:17 AM #241
Since the government, UK, Israel and others already have carte blanche when it comes to information gathering on citizens whether there is probable cause or not such a scenario is not unfeasible.
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12-06-10, 11:22 AM #242
That's what I find astounding.
12-06-10, 11:39 AM #243
It's not going to be a sterile process, getting through to a nation that has been sold a myth that democracy (especially Brand USA) is automatic and free of entropy. Saving this broken-down republic will be noisy, messy, and not for the feint-hearted.
12-06-10, 11:41 AM #244
"I have never used Twitter," the president said. "My thumbs are too clumsy to type in things on the phone. But I am a big believer in technology and I'm a big believer in openness when it comes to the flow of information. I think that the more freely information flows, the stronger the society becomes, because then citizens of countries around the world can hold their own governments accountable. They can begin to think for themselves. That generates new ideas. It encourages creativity."
The president said he's "always been a strong supporter of open Internet use. I'm a big supporter of non-censorship. This is part of the tradition of the United States that I discussed before, and I recognize that different countries have different traditions. I can tell you that in the United States, the fact that we have...unrestricted Internet access is a source of strength, and I think should be encouraged."
obama in shanghai nov 16 2010
The same networks that help organize movements for freedom also enable al-Qaida to spew hatred and incite violence against the innocent. And technologies with the potential to open up access to government and promote transparency can also be hijacked by governments to crush dissent and deny human rights.
In the last year, we’ve seen a spike in threats to the free flow of information. China, Tunisia, and Uzbekistan have stepped up their censorship of the internet. In Vietnam, access to popular social networking sites has suddenly disappeared. And last Friday in Egypt, 30 bloggers and activists were detained. One member of this group, Bassem Samir, who is thankfully no longer in prison, is with us today. So while it is clear that the spread of these technologies is transforming our world, it is still unclear how that transformation will affect the human rights and the human welfare of the world’s population.
And censorship should not be in any way accepted by any company from anywhere. And in America, American companies need to make a principled stand. This needs to be part of our national brand. I’m confident that consumers worldwide will reward companies that follow those principles.
clinton. newseum jan 21 2010
12-06-10, 11:55 AM #245
I remember once when a friend who wanted to know why Democracy Now is always complaining about the State of the Union instead of doing something about it. *chuckle* I replied that they are doing something, their job is to inform so that you the public can come to your own conclusions do your own research and do something about it.
Americans who think something is wrong are still waiting for Obama or someone else to go out and 'do something'.
12-06-10, 11:57 AM #246
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12-06-10, 12:13 PM #249
Those who are awaiting a collapse, before participating in the duties of democracy are not any more developed in their understanding, or service, or civic maturity than those who are too stupid to give a shit. Even if there is a collapse, efforts for democracy before the fall will still have meaning and importance when the dust clears.
12-06-10, 12:23 PM #250
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12-06-10, 12:25 PM #252
There is always that choice. Some people would rather passively die than take courage to resist, however dire the circumstance.
12-06-10, 12:27 PM #253
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12-06-10, 12:34 PM #255
Or better yet how would you even go about proving that there is a problem to begin with? Remember that most think everything is either ok, will be ok, or that the government is on our side and doing things in the best interest of the public.
12-06-10, 12:41 PM #256
Everybody knows it's breaking down; Start there.
12-06-10, 12:42 PM #257
No Hype everyone doesn't know. Just ask Joepistole
Seriously I would say that the majority are in denial or flat out do not see a problem at all. Most have faith in the system, after all it is the 'greatest country in the world' and its the most 'free and just' and will always persevere in the face of adversity.
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12-06-10, 12:44 PM #258
He knows too.
OK I'll do it:
"HEY JOE!" (PM'd him to stop by here).
12-06-10, 12:46 PM #259
12-06-10, 01:03 PM #260
FWIW I'll add one more tip (I'm too often guilty of this myself):
Don't ever assume you understand what's going on inside anyone-else's head, and never do it without posing sincere and non-threatening questions to the person of interest.
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