08-02-10, 01:45 PM #1
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It is a Miracle of the Quran and the Prophetic Tradition. We're going to see the compatibility between science and our religion….
Probing the depths of the Earth and taking pains to uncover the secrets of its internal structure and composition, scientists came to realize that the old myths about the Earth are scientifically baseless. Scientists in the twentieth century decided that the Earth consists of only three layers. Having discovered the sphericity of the Earth, they suggested that this sphere comprises three parts; the core, the crust which is very thin compared to the total volume of the Earth and a third layer in between the two called The Mantle.
Evolution of the scientific facts
However, the three-layer theory didn’t hold true for long, owing to recent discoveries in Geology. Measurements and recent tests showed that the pressure of the material of the Earth’s core is immense and reaches three million times the pressure at the surface.
Under such pressure the material transforms into the solid state, which means that the core of the Earth is solid and is enclosed by a liquid layer of extremely high temperature. This also means that the core of the Earth consists of 2 layers not just one; a solid inner core and a liquid upper core.
Measurement devices developed and scientists were able to observe a clear distinction between the different parts of the Earth’s interior. A layer of hot rocks underneath the crust was discovered, that is the Lithosphere. Underneath the Lithosphere are three layers distinct in density, pressure and temperature.
Having discovered these layers, scientists found themselves dividing the Earth into seven layers and no more. The Cut-away view below shows these layers drawn to scale according to the recent findings of scientists. The fact that the Earth comprises seven layers is established. It is taught at universities and observed through seismographs and through studying the magnetic field of the Earth.
Scientists also found out that the atom consists of seven layers which confirms the uniformity of the creation because the system that governs the creation of the whole universe is one, the earth consists of seven layers and each atom on it consists of seven layers too.
The figure demonstrates the seven layers of the Earth. We note the thin crust then the four layers of the Mantle increasing gradually in thickness. Next is the liquid outer core then the solid inner core. They all add up to seven layers.
The layers of the Earth are radically different in composition, density, temperature and material. Hence, the Earth can not be considered as one layer as was previously believed. The notion of the seven layers is relatively new and didn’t exist at the time the Quran was revealed. Scientists in the twenty-first century concluded that the Earth consists of seven layers, but what does the Quran have to say about that?
What the Quran says:
Telling of the seven layers of the Heavens and the Earth, God says in the Holy Quran:
1- "He (Allah) Who created the seven heavens one above the other" [Al Mulk: 3]
2- "Allah is He Who created seven heavens and the earth the like of them" [ Al Talaaq: 12]
The first verse is talking about two characteristics of the heavens; their number, that is seven, and the arrangement of them (one above the other) or ‘in layers’. The second verse asserts the similarity between the Earth and the heavens (And the Earth the like of them), so as the heavens consist of seven layers, the earth identically consists of seven layers.
Let’s ponder on (one above the other). It denotes the layering of the Earth, and this is what today’s scientists discovered. Now we can see that the Quran had determined the structure of the Earth, which is in layers, and had also determined the number of these layers, that is seven. In other words, the Quran had given a precise description of the earth’s interior, thus it preceded the scientists of the twenty-first century by fourteen centuries in proving this fact. Isn’t this a splendid miracle of the Quran?
What the Hadith says:
Pondering on the Hadith (sayings) of Prophet Muhammad (Peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), we’ll find one that asserts the existence of the seven layers of the earth concentric and one above the other. The prophet (PBUH) said: (Whoever usurps even one span of the land, his neck will be encircled because of it with seven earths) [narrated by Al Bukhari]. Here the prophet gave another characteristic of the layers, encirclement, by saying (will be encircled with it) and this is how the layers truly look like, they are concentric and each one encircles the one underneath it.
The question here is: Isn’t this a great miracle of the prophet? Not just that the Hadith determines the number of the earth’s layers, seven, and determines the arrangement of these layers, but it also bears an indication to the sphericity of the earth.
From this article we find that the Holy Quran and the Hadith reached these facts about the earth long before modern science did. The Quran had given us the precise description of the earth’s internal structure (layers one above the other) and also had given us the exact number of these layers, seven, while it took scientists long years of theorizing and re-theorizing to come up with the same conclusions. So exalted be Allah who said in His Holy Book : (And in the earth are portents for those whose faith is sure- and also in yourselves, can ye then not see) [Al Thariaat: 21-22].
08-02-10, 01:51 PM #2
That all sounds impressive, except scientists think the Earth actually has 5 layers:
And then where are the 7 layers of the heavens? There are 5 layers of the atmosphere, with 4 or so minor layers, depending on your interpretation. Furthermore, a layered structure is evident on the surface in many places. Source: Wikipedia
Scientists also found out that the atom consists of seven layers
I guess you will now be admitting that the Quran is wrong?
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08-02-10, 02:39 PM #3
I see 7 layers on the image in alex sam post. I knew about this fact and I have seen similar images before.
08-02-10, 04:11 PM #4
Please supply images with 7 layers and show where science has validated 7 layers.
Scientists in the twenty-first century concluded that the Earth consists of seven layers, but what does the Quran have to say about that?
What the Quran says:
1- He (Allah) Who created the seven heavens one above the other [Al Mulk: 3]
2- Allah is He Who created seven heavens and the earth the like of them [ Al Talaaq: 12]
Let’s ponder on (one above the other). It denotes the layering of the Earth, and this is what today’s scientists discovered.
Isn’t this a splendid miracle of the Quran?
08-02-10, 04:18 PM #5
haha.... the layers of heaven and hell are as old as time itself.
What happened to all the posts about the Qur'an and it's magical knowledge of the embryo or healing power of honey *oh my*
08-02-10, 04:20 PM #6
There are some diagrams with 7 layers, but that is by no means a scientific fact. It all depends on what you want to call a layer. As with anything with gradations (like the concept of species), they are a product of your definitions.
08-02-10, 04:41 PM #7
Scientists in the twenty-first century concluded that the Earth consists of seven layers
The fact that the Earth comprises seven layers is established. It is taught at universities
And it's not what I was taught at university.
08-02-10, 06:10 PM #8
Originally Posted by yosef
And I know of another one: the biologically active soil layer, which is very influential despite its being relatively thin - it governs the chemical composition of the entire atmosphere and the interface between the planet and the space it inhabits.
There are many more layers than seven in the heavens, of course, with demarcations including the boundary layer of still air very near the surface, earth's magnetosphere, the heliosphere, the galaxy's region of dominance, and so forth.
And no, that seven + one layer structure is not "taught in universities" as some kind of property of the planet. I don't know where it came from, but other depictions are more common and just as well founded.
The Quran is a book. Books are not magical entities that create their own realities in the physical world, or reveal mysteries not known to the worlds of their authors.
08-02-10, 07:08 PM #9
I'll be roasting comfortably in the sixth circle - the one for Heretics.
Epicurians explains the sixth circle is for heretics (who "say the soul dies with the body") are trapped in flaming tombs. Dante holds discourse with a pair of Epicurian Florentines in one of the tombs: Farinata degli Uberti, a Ghibelline (posthumously condemned for heresy in 1283); and Cavalcante de' Cavalcanti, a Guelph, who was the father of Dante's friend and fellow poet Guido Cavalcanti. The political affiliation of these two men allows for a further discussion of Florentine politics (Canto X).
08-03-10, 08:45 PM #10
first quran is true
my source is
‘Inside the Earth’- an article taken from the web site of the USGS
the geological 7 layers of the Earth
0- 40 Crust
40- 400 Upper mantle
400- 650 Transition region
650-2700 Lower mantle
2700-2890 D'' layer
2890-5150 Outer core
5150-6378 Inner core
08-03-10, 09:01 PM #11
So you found one.
Except that the first source states:
our planet is made up of three main layers: crust, mantle, and core
And does not accord with "21st century" either. It's dated 1999.
The second actually describes EIGHT layers (despite that list). Continental crust. oceanic crust, transition region, D Layer, upper mantle, lower mantle, outer core, inner core.
08-03-10, 09:11 PM #12keith1Guest
08-03-10, 09:13 PM #13
Why should it be symmetrical?
That's why it's called Hell.
08-03-10, 09:26 PM #14keith1Guest
I suppose so. Flexible engineering as subterranean earthquake forgiveness.
08-03-10, 11:48 PM #15
1- "He (Allah) Who created the seven heavens one above the other" [Al Mulk: 3]
2- "Allah is He Who created seven heavens and the earth the like of them" [ Al Talaaq: 12]
The Seven Lucky Gods of Japan. Ohhhh and there's 7 layers of some bull shit somewhere and so those Gods are truuuuuuoooooooo......
I don't have to die after I'm dead. Wow, I feel so so soooo much better about that now
Seven Days of Creation - 1765 book
The number seven (7) in the seven days of Creation is typological and the number seven appears commonly elsewhere in the Bible. These include:
* Seven days of Creation (Genesis 1) e.g., God rested on and sanctified the seventh day (Sabbath)
* Seven years of plenty and seven years of famine in Pharaoh's dream (Genesis 41)
* Seven days of the feast of Passover (Exodus 13:3–10)
* Seven day week and the pattern concerning distribution and use of manna (Exodus 16)
* Seven year cycle around the years of Jubilee (Leviticus 25)
* The fall of the walls of Jericho on the seventh day after marching around the city seven times (Joshua 6)
* Seven things that are detestable to the LORD (Proverbs 6:16–19)
* Seven Pillars of the House of Wisdom (Proverbs 9:1)
* Seven loaves multiplied into seven baskets of surplus (Matthew 15:32–37)
* The Seven last words (or seven last sayings) of Jesus on the cross
* Seven men of honest report, full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom (Acts 6:3)
* Seven Spirits of God are mentioned in the Book of Revelation
* Seven churches of Asia to which the "Book of Revelation" is addressed
* Seven churches, seven stars, seven seals, seven last plagues, seven vials or bowls, seven thunders in the Revelation, the last book of the Bible
Other sevens in Christian knowledge and practice include:
* The Seven Sacraments in the Catholic faith (though some traditions assign a different number)
* Seven Gifts of the Holy Spirit
* The Seven Joys of the Virgin Mary, of Roman Catholic, Anglican, and other traditions
* The Seven Sorrows of the Virgin Mary, of Roman Catholic, Anglican, and other traditions
* The Seven Corporal Acts of Mercy and Seven Spiritual Acts of Mercy of Roman Catholic, Anglican, and other traditions
* The Seven Virtues: chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, kindness, patience, and humility
* The Seven deadly sins: lust, gluttony, greed, sloth, wrath, envy, and pride
* The seven terraces of Mount Purgatory (one per deadly sin)
* In the genealogy in the Gospel of Luke, Jesus is 77th in a direct line
* The number of heads of the three beasts (7 × 10 × 7 + 7 × 10 × 10 + 7 × 10 = 1260) of the Book of Revelation, and of some other monsters, like the hydra and the number of seals
* In the New Testament, in Matthew 18:21, Jesus says to Peter to forgive seventy times seven times.
* There are seven suicides mentioned in the Bible (OT and NT).
* The Sanskrit word sapta refers to number seven.
* Indian Music has "Saptak Swaras," seven octats (sa re ga ma pa dha ni) which are basics of music, using which hundreds of Ragas are composed.
* Celestial group of seven stars are named as "Sapta Rishi" based on the seven great saints.
* Seven Promises, Seven Rounds in Hindu Wedding and Seven Reincarnation
* According to Hinduism, there are seven worlds in the universe, seven seas in the world and seven Rishies (seven gurus) called sapta rishis.
* Seven hills at tirumala also known as ezhu malaiyan means Sevenhills god
* There are 7 Chakras in the basic model used in various eastern traditions and philosophies.
* The number of ayat in surat al-Fatiha
* The number of heavens in Islamic tradition
* The number of levels of Earth in Islamic tradition
* The number of circumambulations (Tawaf) that are made around the Kaaba
* The number of walks between Al-Safa and Al-Marwah mountains—that is travelling back and forth—seven times during the ritual pilgrimages of Hajj and Umrah
* The number of fires in hell. i.e the 7 fires of hell
* The number of doors to hell is also seven
* In Verse 12:46 (see Islamic view of Joseph) of the Quran, Joseph (Yusef) is asked to interpret the King's dream where seven fat cows were dreamt to have been devoured by seven skinny cows and seven green spikes, and others shrivelled.
* It is widely accepted that Surah Al Kahf (Surah 18, verse 9–26) narrates the story of Seven Sleepers who travelled in time by sleeping in a cave for three hundred solar years and nine lunar years, which is similar to the Christian myth of the same name.
The Menorah is a 7-branched candelabrum
* A highly symbolic number in the Torah, alluding to the infusion of spirituality and Godliness into the creation. For example:
o God rested on and sanctified the seventh day (Shabbat). – Genesis 2:3. "Wisdom has built her house, she has hewn out her seven pillars." – Proverbs of Solomon son of David King of Israel 9:1
o A seven-day purification period is required for one who has become tamei to become tahor.
o The Shmita (Sabbatical) year arrives every seventh year.
o The Jubilee (Yovel) year comes after 7 times 7 years.
o The Counting of the Omer leading up to the Giving of the Torah is expressed as "7 times 7 weeks."
o There are 7 days of Passover and Sukkot when celebrated in Israel.
o Shiv`a (another pronunciation of the Hebrew word for 7—(Hebrew: שבעה ; "seven")), is the number of days of mourning. Hence, one sits Shiva. As in Shiva (Judaism)
* The weekly Torah portion is divided into seven aliyahs, and seven Jewish men (or boys over the age of 13 who are considered men; Bar Mitzvah) are called up for the reading of these aliyahs during Shabbat morning services.
* Seven blessings are recited under the chuppah during a Jewish wedding ceremony.
* A Jewish bride and groom are feted with seven days of festive meals after their wedding, known as Sheva Berachot ("Seven Blessings").
* The number of Ushpizzin (also known as the "Seven Shepherds") who visit the sukkah during the holiday of Sukkot: Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, and David.
* The number of nations God told the Israelites they would displace when they entered the land of Israel (Deut. 7:1): the Hittite, the Girgashite, the Amorite, the Canaanite, the Perizzite, the Hivite, and the Jebusite.
* In Breslov tradition, the seven orifices of the face (2 eyes, 2 nostrils, 2 ears, and the mouth) are called "The Seven Candles."
* The Menorah (Hebrew: מנורה), is a seven-branched candelabrum lit by olive oil in the Tabernacle and the Temple in Jerusalem. The menorah is one of the oldest symbols of the Jewish people. It is said to symbolize the Burning bush as seen by Moses on Mount Sinai (Exodus 25).
* The number of times Cain will be avenged by God if he is murdered (Gen 4:15).
* The Israelites circled Jericho for 7 days and then the wall tumbled down.
* The number of Archangels according to some systems.
* The minor symbol number of yang from the Taoist yin-yang.
* The number of palms in an Egyptian Sacred Cubit.
* The number of ranks in Mithraism.
* The number seven is of particular significance within Cherokee cosmology.
* In the Bahá'í faith, the text The Seven Valleys, by the Prophet-Founder Bahá'u'lláh, relates the journey of the soul through the seven "valleys" of Search, Love, Knowledge, Unity, Contentment, Wonderment, and finally True Poverty and Absolute Nothingness.
* In Buddhism, Buddha walked 7 steps at his birth.
* Circle Seven Koran, the holy scripture of the Moorish Science Temple of America
* In Spanish and other Romance Languages, cats are said to have 7 lives as opposed to English, where cats are said to have 9 lives.
* In Iran cats are also said to have 7 lives.
* In Wiccan spirituality the number seven is said to hold a lot of divinity. It is known for being a very sound number and associates with many things.
The Seven Lucky Gods in Japanese mythology
* The Seven Lucky Gods refer to the seven gods of good fortune in Japanese mythology.
* In Khasi mythology, the seven divine women who were left behind on earth and became the ancestresses of all humankind.
* The number of gateways traversed by Inanna during her descent into the underworld.
* The number of sleeping men in the Christian myth of the "Seven Sleepers."
* The number of sages in Hindu mythology; their wives are the goddesses referred to as the "Seven Mothers."
* The number of main islands of mythological Atlantis.
* In Guaraní mythology, the number of prominent legendary monsters.
* In Irish mythology, the epic hero Cúchulainn is associated with the number 7. He has 7 fingers on each hand, 7 toes on each foot, and 7 pupils in each eye. In the Irish epic Táin Bó Cúailnge, Cúchulainn is 7 years old when he receives his first weapons and defeats the armies of the Ulaidh and his son Connla is 7 years old when he is slain by Cúchulainn in "The Death of Aife's Only Son."
* In British folklore, every 7 years the Queen of the Fairies pays a tithe to Hell (or possibly Hel) in the tale of Tam Lin.
* In the British folk tale of Thomas the Rhymer, he went to live in the faerie kingdom for 7 years.
* The 7th glyph of the Mayan Calendar is Blue Hand, it represents the days in creation and is associated with creative perfection. This is the glyph of the last day of their calendar that ends on December 21, 2012.
* The seven branched sword in Korean mythology.
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