Obesity. Americans got it covered.

**Kernl Sandrs** · 07-08-10, 11:50 AM

In 2010, Colorado (our thinnest state) is fatter than our fattest state (Louisiana) in 1991.

Watch this and skip ahead to aprox. 4:00.

I always loved George Carlin (RIP). Watch his views on obesity here, skip ahead to exactly 2:40.

So what say you on Obesity? I don't know how franchises can conceive of something like The grilled cheese burger melt, and then consumers say "gee, that looks real good" And buy it. I mean you have the right to buy whatever you want, and eat whatever you want, sure. But shouldn't there be a point where we step back and say Wow, maybe we're going a bit overboard with some of these dishes. Why haven't we gotten to that point yet? What is it going to take for us to realize that we have a weight problem?

**~~John99~~** · 07-08-10, 11:57 AM

Many weight problems are medical\biological in nature. Two people, even parent\child, can develop very differently and even eat basically the same things and amounts.

**spidergoat** · 07-08-10, 12:05 PM

Don't blame the food, blame the automobile.

**~~John99~~** · 07-08-10, 12:11 PM

Diabetics tend to get very overweight and most dont really eat more than a fit person. Afa exercise, it is hard to do exercises when your body has little spare energy. I am average weight myself.

**Anti-Flag** · 07-08-10, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by Kernl Sandrs

So what say you on Obesity? I don't know how franchises can conceive of something like The grilled cheese burger melt, and then consumers say "gee, that looks real good" And buy it. I mean you have the right to buy whatever you want, and eat whatever you want, sure. But shouldn't there be a point where we step back and say Wow, maybe we're going a bit overboard with some of these dishes. Why haven't we gotten to that point yet? What is it going to take for us to realize that we have a weight problem?

Don't you listen to them? They're not fat, they're just big boned. And like, their lives are like, totally in the hands of god, so if he wants them to be fat, then that's like, totally their purpose or something....

**Anti-Flag** · 07-08-10, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by spidergoat

Don't blame the food, blame the automobile.

Good point! If cars didn't have extra extra extra large cupholders they wouldn't have to buy the mega multi excel double double milkshake!
Mystery solved.

**~~John99~~** · 07-08-10, 12:20 PM

Oftren times the medical condition is not jet able to be fully diagnosed. This is a sign of changes taking place in the body of the subject. I suspect that future diseases can, in fact, be diagnosed, way ahead of their complete fruition whereas they sre first recognized.

Just new released infoirmation (seen here) indicates that perhaps diseases are giving us what some would refer to as a signature- indiction before the disease shows meaning they are dormant for decades. This signature is evident in the incidence of the subjects predisposiiopn to be overweight or underweight. Now this is known does not mean people should think about this as it can be a lifetime to show up. Foe even if a human lives to be 100 does not mean they were healthy when they died. Meaning one must die from something.

That being said, a thin human will have some other malady so dont view this as an overall perspective on the health of the subject.

My grandmother, a genius, would yell at joggers passing by: "No one dies healthy. you fool." whaaa, ha ha ha ha.

**spidergoat** · 07-08-10, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by Anti-Flag

Good point! If cars didn't have extra extra extra large cupholders they wouldn't have to buy the mega multi excel double double milkshake!
Mystery solved.

<soapbox>If we hadn't engineered our living arrangements so that it is impossible to do anything without driving there, we wouldn't be such fat-asses.</soapbox>

The evidence for this is that Europeans aren't as fat but they do eat very rich food.

**WillNever** · 07-08-10, 01:07 PM

Anyone who orders that is a pig.

**~~stratos~~** · 07-08-10, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by Kernl Sandrs

So what say you on Obesity? I don't know how franchises can conceive of something like The grilled cheese burger melt, and then consumers say "gee, that looks real good" And buy it. I mean you have the right to buy whatever you want, and eat whatever you want, sure. But shouldn't there be a point where we step back and say Wow, maybe we're going a bit overboard with some of these dishes. Why haven't we gotten to that point yet? What is it going to take for us to realize that we have a weight problem?

McDonald's did shift its focus. You wouldn't actually order their salads but their very existence shows that corporation's painful identity crisis faced with a shrinking market. US cultural imperialism means we've all at various times consumed the patties of death and the drinks that accompany them. And - let's not be churlish here - even enjoyed them. But these outlets don't do anything called small. The smallest beverage is what we Europeans would call large. Their medium is an ice bucket, and their large would put out the Great Fire of London.

Likewise in multiplex cinemas. There was more fresh food on the unmanned mission to Mars than in the food halls through which we funnel to get to the film.

Has your government got a national strategy for educating people about healthy eating? In Britain we've been bombarded with advice in recent years about eating five fruit or vegetables a day, for instance. Celebrity chefs have tried to sort out healthier school meals, and the likes of Joan Collins and the Duchess of York have gone into fat people's homes. No-one actually believes that burgers grow on trees or that Coca-Cola comes from natural springs in Wyoming, but you can't be too careful.

**Kernl Sandrs** · 07-08-10, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by John99

Many weight problems are medical\biological in nature. Two people, even parent\child, can develop very differently and even eat basically the same things and amounts.

So biology is to blame for the things they buy? They can't control whether or not they buy a Triple baconator for medical reasons?

**Kernl Sandrs** · 07-08-10, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by WillNever

Anyone who orders that is a pig.

My dogs wouldn't even eat that, and Kelby eats her own poo.

**Kernl Sandrs** · 07-08-10, 02:22 PM

Here's some amusing pictures I've found:

**Kernl Sandrs** · 07-08-10, 02:24 PM

And some more:

I almost wonder if that belly showing below the dress is photo-shopped.

**Anti-Flag** · 07-08-10, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by spidergoat

<soapbox>If we hadn't engineered our living arrangements so that it is impossible to do anything without driving there, we wouldn't be such fat-asses.</soapbox>

The evidence for this is that Europeans aren't as fat but they do eat very rich food.

Not necessarily the car per se, but longer duration of transport in general, how much excercise do you get on the Bus? Train? Airplane? At least in the car your legs are moving for the pedals, and maybe your arm if you change the stereo.....

People just need to take more responsibility for their own health really, and a lot of jobs could be done from home, cutting down on travel, and allowing for more time to excercise. Of course right now we have more sedentary jobs which go on for long hours too.

**Anti-Flag** · 07-08-10, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Kernl Sandrs

Is that what they meant when they talked about the huge size of Uranus? Apart from that she isn't bad.

**spidergoat** · 07-08-10, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by Anti-Flag

Not necessarily the car per se, but longer duration of transport in general, how much excercise do you get on the Bus? Train? Airplane? At least in the car your legs are moving for the pedals, and maybe your arm if you change the stereo.....

People just need to take more responsibility for their own health really, and a lot of jobs could be done from home, cutting down on travel, and allowing for more time to excercise. Of course right now we have more sedentary jobs which go on for long hours too.

You have to walk to the train station, and they are in urban areas anyway, so you wouldn't need a car.

**Anti-Flag** · 07-08-10, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by spidergoat

You have to walk to the train station, and they are in urban areas anyway, so you wouldn't need a car.

Whether you drive or walk to a station is a personal choice, and is dependant on how near it is. Consider this, if it's far away, people will drive or get a connecting bus, if it is near, just how much excercise are they getting anyway?
Not everyone can live in urban areas of course, and I imagine most country folk and people who work less sedentary jobs are less likely to be obese, but these jobs are not common. Working in a high rise with an elevator and sitting at your desk all day is far more common. I also think it matters if you're customer facing, not many representatives are obese as it's considered a negative image.