Obama's First Six Months' Accomplishments

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  1. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    Simple pleasures for simple minds

    People in general don't shut up and listening to retarded blithering.

    Back in the days before the internet, it was the sort of shit that went around via facsimile. And before that, it was called a chain letter, and usually threatened you with baldness or death if you didn't pass it on.

    But these days, it's all over the fucking web.


    ... and the list goes on. And on.

    And on.

    I think it a highly dubious proposition that you should expect anyone to take it seriously.
     
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  3. parmalee peripatetic artisan Valued Senior Member

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    What the hell does that mean?
     
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  5. WillNever Valued Senior Member

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    I'm pretty liberal, and Obama made me sick from the first time I saw him. What comes close to angering me is when he "apologizes" to foreign groups of peoples for the actions of America... for things that most American's don't feel they owe an apology for. He presumes to apologize for the actions of others... as though he himself were not an American who had been a part of it.

    It's the way he distances himself from the majority of Americans, when dealing with nations abroad, that sickens me.

    Hillary wouldn't have done that. That is because Hillary, despite all her flaws, sincerely loves America. Obama just loves his political office.
     
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  7. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    After eight years of Bush's "You are either with us, or against us" unilateralism, there are many fences to be mended, and much to apologize for. Have you forgotten insulting nonsense such as "Freedom Fries"? Many of us were an unwilling part of it. Our overseas allies need to be reassured that the madness has passed, and the US is once again willing to be a reliable coalition partner, willing to compromise our own interests from time to time, rather than insisting "our way or the highway".

    I'm unaware of any evidence to support your assertion that Obama only loves power, and is actually indifferent to the fate of this country. I don't believe that anyone who felt that way would undergo the arduous campaigning necessary to gain the office of president.
     
  8. WillNever Valued Senior Member

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    Most Americans have not wronged the rest of the world in any way whatsoever. It is not our responsibility to apologize for the actions of past leaders. If you acknowledge that most Americans were unwillingly associated with some bad stuff, then you shouldn't place blame on most Americans.

    Neither should Obama.... but that's exactly what he does when he apologizes for America.
     
  9. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    On specifically what occasion has Obama apologized for the USA, and what specifically for?
     
  10. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    But a majority voted for Bush in 2004.
     
  11. WillNever Valued Senior Member

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    That doesn't make those people responsible for his actions after the election takes place.

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  12. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    Repo Man: "a majority voted for Bush in 2004."

    ...less than 3 years from the profound shock of, and in the height of irrationality following 9-11.

    WillNever: "That doesn't make those people responsible for his actions after the election takes place."

    But we are responsible for not holding our elected representatives accountable to our Constitution.
     
  13. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    A reason isn't the same thing as an excuse.
     
  14. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Wrong voltage, and format to be compatible with European systems.

    Yes really?
     
  15. mike47 Banned Banned

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    America was wrong dealing with some nations and if the other nations have power America will have to be punished and made pay attributions too. Examples : Iraq and Afghanista .
    Hilary is a junior politician.....remember her lies with Lewinsky saga....etc .
     
  16. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    W was a known quantity in 2004 - the people who voted for him did not even have the pathetic excuse of not having paid attention to the loads of perfectly accurate and damning information available in 2000.

    Fooled once, shame on the media. Fooled twice - look in the mirror.

    Obama has not, as far as I know, apologized for much of anything the US has done - he gains favor overseas simply for appearing to recognize the existence of some bad doings, and not copping an attitude of dumbass redneck belligerence. If you disparage him for that, you are disparaging him for competence and awareness - a common motive for criticism among Americans (codeword "elitism"), and a less common flaw in US politics now than in the distant past, but not really a good reason to be "sickened".

    I did, twice:
     
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  17. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    You might have missed his point

    No, no, no.

    He wants people to presume a legitimacy about these stupid talking points that he is incapable of explaining himself. We are to presume each point true and accurate—or, at the very least, reasonable and legitimate—and go from there.

    You're not conceding the whole argument at the outset. Didn't you know that's the only acceptable thing to do?
     
  18. John T. Galt marxism is legalized hatred!! Registered Senior Member

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    Oh so that's what it takes to be a mod, you have to KNOW what others are thinking. This criterion has proven itself over and over.

    Which of these points are inaccurate? Debatable yes, you could argue the merits of bowing to the Saudis. However, you cannot debate that it HAPPENED. You cannot debate that the apology tour happened.

    Ice,

    &

    You actually call these objective responses?!?!
     
  19. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/03/obama-disaster-50-days-that-changed.html

    ** The Obama stock market had its worst January in 113 years.
    ** The stock market had its worst February since 1933.
    ** The Dow dropped faster under Obama than any other new president in 90 years.
    ** Obama's budget more than doubles the national debt held by the public, and adds more to the debt than all previous presidents -- from George Washington to George W. Bush -- combined.
    ** Obama managed to spend more than the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan combined.

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  20. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Yes the Obamas greatest accomplishment, we now have the Thought Police....

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  21. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    So Obama's actual policies are not involved - he wasn't even inaugurated until January 20th.
    That's silly. Obama has yet to propose his first budget of his own - that will be 2010's, or if he's still dealing with W's stuff maybe 2011 or later. And W's boosting of the debt in 2008 was the largest ever to date - over a trillion, to add to the trillions of his first seven years, and another trillion carryover into 2009. Obama is a long way from matching that record.
     
  22. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    In January Obama has only been in office a few days. Yet you want to hang the stock market decline all on Obama. What about the 50 percent rises in the stock market since march of this year, dont you think Obama should get credit for it especially since you want to blame him for stuff that occured before he took office.
     
  23. baftan ******* Valued Senior Member

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    Anybody would like to know if there is anything fishy going on against his/her programme, including organisations, firms or governments.

    The subject article does not say that "if you do not give information you will be considered as enemies to the government". It states this:

    Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov.

    If you do not want to send it, do not send it, simple as that. No body is big brothering if anyone keeps any information related to health reform. It is optional. No body will get punished if information is not shared, and no body will get penalty.
     
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