Infinite universes questions

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  1. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    If there are infinite universes with infinite possibilities, does that mean that there is even a universe where harry potter, or the Star Wars galaxy, is real?

    i.e, does that mean EVERYTHING is real that can possibly be real?

    And doesn't that present contradictions? For instance, doesn't that mean that there is a massive blublooga named bob that snapped his fingers and destroyed all of existence?
     
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  3. superstring01 Moderator

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    Probably not. Those same permutations would still have to follow the laws of physics (ie: no flying brooms; no FTL).

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  5. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Perhaps, but why can't other universes have other laws of physics?
     
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  7. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    No. Being infinite does not mean that every conceivable possibility must be realised.

    For example: there is an infinite number of integers, but not a single one of them is both an odd number and an even number.
     
  8. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Because an integar being both even and odd is not a conceivable possibility; it is simply impossible.

    However, "star wars" (I use it as an example) would be possible in a different universe with a different law of physics, right?

    Ok, then let's say sherlock holmes; he doesn't break the laws of physics. Is he real?
     
  9. superstring01 Moderator

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    Well, you just answered your own question. You've decided that everything you hoped and dreamed of can become a reality. There you have it.

    So why are you bugging us?

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  10. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Since existence has not been destroyed (based on a brief glance out the window, at least) that would seem to be an argument against infinite possibilities, wouldn't it?
     
  11. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    Different universes CAN have different laws of physics, but speculating about these things is a bit akin to the angels and pinheads arguments of olde.

    Well, this is by definition though. And what about 0? Is it even or odd? (I don't know!)

    It's not a very rigorous argument, though...
     
  12. Clucky Registered Senior Member

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    0 is an even number, Ben.

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  13. prometheus viva voce! Registered Senior Member

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    I don't get how zero is even a number, never mind an even number. (geddit)

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  14. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    0 is neither negative nor positive; it isn't an integar.


    I understand the geometric dimensions (at least up until 6); I get very confused after the fifth geometric dimension.
     
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  16. Cyperium I'm always me Valued Senior Member

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    I think it's even

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    , just because "even" sounds nicer to me. Or perhaps its both. Zero is the potential everything.
     
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  18. Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    If there were infinite universes, there would not be infinite possibilities.

    Nope.

    Yes... but they key word is "possibly". A harry potter universe is not possible.

    Nope. Imagination and possibility are not the same thing.
     
  19. bestofthebest Registered Senior Member

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    okay here goes

    yes the theory goes that htere are an infinite number of universes each one following a different course of time due to that fact that some descisions have an infinite number of possibilities. So yes there is some creature called bob that destroyed all the universe BUT (heres the important bit) ONLY HIS OWN UNIVERSE << the theory also states that parallel universes cannot interact with eachother (although quantum theory poses some ideas that subatomic particles can essentially, jump univervses freely

    but ofcourse the whole thing is all just a theory so to be honest, just make it it up as you go along

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  20. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Zero is not even or odd or positive or negative. It is not an integer, it is not a number. Numbers represent things. Zero is nothing. NO THING. Zero is not potential, it is nothing.
     
  21. bestofthebest Registered Senior Member

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    and to add to what i said before
    (perhaps make it clearer)
    causeality is confined to ONE universe and the outcome of events in one reality cannot influence events in another
     
  22. bestofthebest Registered Senior Member

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    Wrong, wrong and more wrong
    according to the parallel universe theory;
    EVERY OUTCOME TO EVERY EVENT (ie. every possibiltiy) EXISTS IN SOME PARALLEL UNIVERSE SOMEWHERE
    so there would be a universe where harry potter is real

    the way our universe is today is determined by causality of events

    causilty is different in each universe

    THE OUTCOME OF EVENTS IS DIFFERENT IN EACH UNIVERSE

    ...

    AND if there are an infinite number of universes then the would be an infinite number of possibilities

    take a random number generator for example;
    there are an infinite number of outcomes to a random number generator and everyone one of those outcomes must occur in some universe somewhere
    SO.. INFINITE POSSIBILTIES

    IT'S BASIC QUANTUM THEORY!
     
  23. bestofthebest Registered Senior Member

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    Indeed

    zero is not a number
    it's nothingness
    therefore it cannot be odd or even, positive or negative
    IT DOESN'T EXIST PEOPLE!

    atleast you have common sense
     

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