A Jewish Holiday Worth Borrowing

i stand by my original assertion that the talmud is a purely cultural text, with no bearing on the religion, if one follows the authority of the torah.

 

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Yes of course.

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Thats a given for any authority position these days. Learn to kiss ass.

 

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is chuuush quote fake or not? you are a practicing jew, you cant answer a simple question?

 

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voila.
any jew worth their salt in knowledge of hebrew can see that 3/4ths of the talmud contradict the teachings of the torah.

 

Oh, I've been following this conversation, amigo - make no mistake about that. What I've witnessed from you, though, is far from impressive: vociferous denial, accusatory remarks of "anti-Semitism" and "Jew hating", and unnecessary mockery and crudeness. Yet, if I look at all of the "evidence" you posted in defense of your argument, I'd be hardpressed to find anything of noteworthy material. The quote chuush referred to certainly is in the Talmud, whether you want it to be or not. No amount of denial or gorilla-esque chanting otherwise will alter this particular reality. As I said, the verse indisputably exists, although its interpretations differ.

 

fake in what sense?
hebrew cannot be translated literally into english. so in that sense, yes it is a falsehood.

did rabbis at the time of the writing think things like this? probably.

ill get my talmud out and check out how i would translate it. give me 5 minutes.

 

very well then. quote the talmud and compare it to what chuuush said and show me where the word beast is.

ill be happy to see it. it will do you more good then just to personally attack me.

also. if you read what i quoted as refute to what chuuush has quoted, i want you to explain phrase by phrase how its not contradicty with non jew being non human.

 

fake as in is what he wrote is written there or not.

 

i translate it as saying "non-men", or "un-men", however you like it.

this does not mean "beast", in a purely literal sense. this would mean "someone who doesnt have a clue about their purpose", in the context.

but again, dont take my word for it. learn hebrew. at least try to before you argue about english translations from hebrew... all of you.

 

whats the hebrew word there?

so i dont know hebrew you claim?

 

on another note, i would say that this topic has veered waaaaaay off course, and perhaps a seperate thread should be made if this discussion is to continue.

this thread is about jewish holidays.

 

i didnt claim anything about you.

 

"Beast", "non-human", what's the difference? The point is, they're referred to as something other than human, which is enough to offend me. Do you get it now?

But it's soooo fun! xoxoxoxox

Your arguments have been refuted thoroughly throughout the progression of this entire thread. For me to go back countless pages and individually discredit each of your posts myself in satisfying detail seems like ... well, you know ... a gigantic waste of fucking time!

 

you wrote:

so again, the hebrew word in the text?

 

if you dont have the ability to defend your arguments dont bother to make. if you came here just to moke ill just ignore you-and probably others will follow me as well.

not human doesnt necessarily mean beasts. angles arent considered men either for examples.

 

look dude, im not interesting in arguing with you. i was just trying to educate people on the forum about what is said.
take it to another place.

but, to answer your question..the word is:
לא אנושי
edit: now run to your online translator and tell me im correct.

 

well come on-nobody here can decide if chuuush quote is fake or not?
ill help you. its fake. end of story.

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wrong

its written

אדם
אדם
אדם
adam!!!!

 

I-ig ... ignore me? You wouldn't, would you? I can change, Spock! I can change!

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If you haven't noticed, non-Jews are human. Fascinating, innit?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_%28Bible%29