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al3emlaq
03-28-03, 01:57 AM
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Bosh Is killing children using our taxes

Robert Fisk: 'It was an outrage, an obscenity'
27 March 2003


It was an outrage, an obscenity. The severed hand on the metal door, the swamp of blood and mud across the road, the human brains inside a garage, the incinerated, skeletal remains of an Iraqi mother and her three small children in their still-smouldering car.

Two missiles from an American jet killed them all – by my estimate, more than 20 Iraqi civilians, torn to pieces before they could be 'liberated' by the nation that destroyed their lives. Who dares, I ask myself, to call this 'collateral damage'? Abu Taleb Street was packed with pedestrians and motorists when the American pilot approached through the dense sandstorm that covered northern Baghdad in a cloak of red and yellow dust and rain yesterday morning.

It's a dirt-poor neighbourhood, of mostly Shia Muslims, the same people whom Messrs Bush and Blair still fondly hope will rise up against President Saddam Hussein, a place of oil-sodden car-repair shops, overcrowded apartments and cheap cafés. Everyone I spoke to heard the plane. One man, so shocked by the headless corpses he had just seen, could say only two words. "Roar, flash," he kept saying and then closed his eyes so tight that the muscles rippled between them.

How should one record so terrible an event? Perhaps a medical report would be more appropriate. But the final death toll is expected to be near to 30 and Iraqis are now witnessing these awful things each day; so there is no reason why the truth, all the truth, of what they see should not be told.

For another question occurred to me as I walked through this place of massacre yesterday. If this is what we are seeing in Baghdad, what is happening in Basra and Nasiriyah and Kerbala? How many civilians are dying there too, anonymously, indeed unrecorded, because there are no reporters to be witness to their suffering?

Abu Hassan and Malek Hammoud were preparing lunch for customers at the Nasser restaurant on the north side of Abu Taleb Street. The missile that killed them landed next to the westbound carriageway, its blast tearing away the front of the café and cutting the two men – the first 48, the second only 18 – to pieces. A fellow worker led me through the rubble. "This is all that is left of them now," he said, holding out before me an oven pan dripping with blood.

At least 15 cars burst into flames, burning many of their occupants to death. Several men tore desperately at the doors of another flame-shrouded car in the centre of the street that had been flipped upside down by the same missile. They were forced to watch helplessly as the woman and her three children inside were cremated alive in front of them. The second missile hit neatly on the eastbound carriageway, sending shards of metal into three men standing outside a concrete apartment block with the words, "This is God's possession" written in marble on the outside wall.

The building's manager, Hishem Danoon, ran to the doorway as soon as he heard the massive explosion. "I found Ta'ar in pieces over there," he told me. His head was blown off. "That's his hand." A group of young men and a woman took me into the street and there, a scene from any horror film, was Ta'ar's hand, cut off at the wrist, his four fingers and thumb grasping a piece of iron roofing. His young colleague, Sermed, died the same instant. His brains lay piled a few feet away, a pale red and grey mess behind a burnt car. Both men worked for Danoon. So did a doorman who was also killed.

As each survivor talked, the dead regained their identities. There was the electrical shop-owner killed behind his counter by the same missile that cut down Ta'ar and Sermed and the doorman, and the young girl standing on the central reservation, trying to cross the road, and the truck driver who was only feet from the point of impact and the beggar who regularly called to see Mr Danoon for bread and who was just leaving when the missiles came screaming through the sandstorm to destroy him.

In Qatar, the Anglo-American forces – let's forget this nonsense about "coalition" – announced an inquiry. The Iraqi government, who are the only ones to benefit from the propaganda value of such a bloodbath, naturally denounced the slaughter, which they initially put at 14 dead. So what was the real target? Some Iraqis said there was a military encampment less than a mile from the street, though I couldn't find it. Others talked about a local fire brigade headquarters, but the fire brigade can hardly be described as a military target.

Certainly, there had been an attack less than an hour earlier on a military camp further north. I was driving past the base when two rockets exploded and I saw Iraqi soldiers running for their lives out of the gates and along the side of the highway. Then I heard two more explosions; these were the missiles that hit Abu Taleb Street.

Of course, the pilot who killed the innocent yesterday could not see his victims. Pilots fire through computer-aligned co-ordinates, and the sandstorm would have hidden the street from his vision. But when one of Malek Hammoud's friends asked me how the Americans could so blithely kill those they claimed to want to liberate, he didn't want to learn about the science of avionics or weapons delivery systems.

And why should he? For this is happening almost every day in Baghdad. Three days ago, an entire family of nine was wiped out in their home near the centre of the city. A busload of civilian passengers were reportedly killed on a road south of Baghdad two days ago. Only yesterday were Iraqis learning the identity of five civilian passengers slaughtered on a Syrian bus that was attacked by American aircraft close to the Iraqi border at the weekend.

The truth is that nowhere is safe in Baghdad, and as the Americans and British close their siege in the next few days or hours, that simple message will become ever more real and ever more bloody.

We may put on the hairshirt of morality in explaining why these people should die. They died because of 11 September, we may say, because of President Saddam's "weapons of mass destruction", because of human rights abuses, because of our desperate desire to "liberate" them all. Let us not confuse the issue with oil. Either way, I'll bet we are told President Saddam is ultimately responsible for their deaths. We shan't mention the pilot, of course.

al3emlaq
03-29-03, 12:29 AM
This is a war against the Iraqi people
It is now quite clear that the Iraqi people do not want to be 'liberated' by a belligerent illegal occupying force from the US. I watched George Bush at the press conference , pointing his finger and declaring "They must understand that they will be liberated." It appears it does not matter whether they actually want to be "liberated". The Iraqi people are not stupid. They might hate Saddam but they know only two well that this is a war of US empire building. The US could have defused this a bit by accepting a UN administration "after the war", but Bush is so politically inept he doesn't even understand this. The Iraqi people do not want to be governed by Washington, and I do not blame them. But this all means that the US strategy is in tatters, and that the 'coalition' now faces a military, political and humanitarian situation beyond its worst nightmares. The US is now involved in a war against the Iraqi people. Just look at Basra. What are the British supposed to do? How can you 'pick off the enemy and avoid civilian deaths' if the civilians are fighting to defend their country rather than to defend Saddams regime? You can't. You only have two options - you can either level the city with bombs or you can lay siege and starve them into submission. Both options create an Iraqi population that holds the US responsible not only for 10 years of sanctions and bombings, but thousands of civilian deaths and an unwanted illegal occupation of their country. And what you see in Basra you can multiply by 5 for Baghdad. On top of that, there is no northern supply line, and no hope of one, and if the Iraqis hold the towns then the southern supply line will be under continued attack whilst it tries to supply troops stuck in the desert or engaged in urban street-fighting with the Iraqi people. Even if the US manages to take Baghdad it will find itself in control of a resentful population which wants it removed - the closest parallel being the Israeli occupation of The Lebanon. If all that was not enough, Tony Blair went into this war desperate for a quick result and an Iraqi population which supported him. He will get neither.
This is an illegal war for US self-interest against the Iraqi people. The strategy was critically dependent on the Iraqi people prefering a US administration to Saddam, and apparently there was no real backup plan if this failed. It has failed. America now faces a cross between Vietnam, Northern Ireland and The Lebanon. As for what must be going on in Tony Blairs head right now, I dare not even imagine. How deep in the doo-dah can one be?
As for those people who predicted mass surrender of Iraqi troops and a 2-week war.........

You were wrong. The Iraqi people prefer Saddam to becoming a US colony. You were warned. You did not listen. Neither did Rumsfeld and Bush. Now you are going to pay the price in American blood.

hypewaders
03-29-03, 12:32 AM
Very important posts, al3emlaq- shukran.

shadows
03-29-03, 12:34 AM
would you prefer to have hussien as our president? If you said that in iraq but the other way around the police would show up to arrest you. You would be interrogated then shot for crimes against the state. That is acceptable in this world?

Jerrek
03-29-03, 12:36 AM
Hmm, I give it a 2 for effort. :mad:

hypewaders
03-29-03, 12:36 AM
Infantile rebuttals purporting that recognition of the folly of the Busheviks is to support Saddam: How monotonous and tiring:o

SuperFudd
03-29-03, 01:03 AM
Does anyone have the time?

Jerrek
03-29-03, 01:16 AM
Originally posted by SuperFudd
Does anyone have the time? I know I don't. :D How about we give them a thread of their own so they can completely agree with each other and for once feel good about themselves? :p

sycoindian
03-29-03, 06:24 AM
hype.. why bother.. all this has been covered in numerous other threads.. it gets kinda stale when u have to keep repeating urself...