mornin,evenin, all . new member be gentle with the advances in cloning and dna etc it will soon be possible to rebuild a human from his toenail when he dies (an afterlife?). unless he is cremated which destroys all cells. until quite recently it was a mortal sin in the catholic church to be cremated because then there was no afterlife . how did they know ??? if this is not the right forum please excuse , I use "he" for all of us and again no offence meant
in the meantime life is only seen to come from life, so I guess we will have to put aside the fervor the pulp sci-fi industry generates until a later date
I don't see cloning as an afterlife. It's another person, but they have the same genetic make-up. Like a twin, kind of. I think once we die, it's all over. The Catholic Church come out will all kinds of crazy shit. You should try not to listen. Welcome to sciforums Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Sorry to have a go, but a lot of people here are uptight about proper sentences and spelling. Capitalisation makes a big difference, too. Sadly true, but not many people will take you seriously if you don't make an effort with your spelling, punctuation, etc.
Yes, there is a spelling check in "go advanced". Clink on the check mark and download a small program to make it work.
Some forums used to have it back when I was running my forums. Also, following spidergoat's reply, iespell.com is where to get it from.
The Orthodox Jews also believe that, only they are stricter. No organ transplants, no embalming. The body has to be buried very quickly. They believe that people don't go to heaven right away when they die. Their god will come back at some unspecified time in the future (perhaps that is what is meant by "judgment day") and reanimate all the corpses. If you're missing a heart the whole process won't work right. (This is the same supreme being who invented the universe and he can't handle a minor detail like that?) The fact that the bodies decompose--and decompose faster if they're not embalmed--doesn't seem to faze them. I wonder whether Jewish universities teach the concept of cognitive dissonance or they just assume everybody is already familiar with it. Spidergoat is right: Two people can have the same DNA. Identical twins do. This is the "Free Thoughts" forum so anything goes. However, you might do better with this post in one of the philosophy and religion fora. One of the things that often happens in Free Thoughts is flame wars. I also echo the sentiments of Phonetic. It would take you such a very small amount of your time to learn to use your keyboard properly. There is a key labeled "Shift" and if you push it, as if by magic the letter you type will be capitalized. That makes it so much easier and faster for every single person on this thread to read your posting. By failing to do that, you are telling us that your time is much more important than our time, so it's okay for each of us to waste our time stumbling through your poorly typed sentences, in order to save a few seconds of your time for your other much loftier and nobler pursuits. You are not presenting yourself very well. If this place is so unimportant to you that it's not worth the effort to treat us with minimal respect, then why bother?
With respect Spidergoat, can we be 100% sure it won't be the same person? A metaphor to illustrate my point: Imagine an small volcanic island with a simple geology and ecosystem. One day the island sinks to the sea bed. 10 years later the island re-emerges due to volcanic activity and is eventually re-colonised so that it resembles the original island. The new island resembles exactly the previous island in its features, geology and ecosystem. An albatross lands on the new island. The albatross last came here 11 years previously and landed on the original island. From the albatross's perspective it is one and the same island.
That would place alot of importance on genetics. I guess since the environment affects the traits you pass on to the next generation, it's possible it also affect your DNA t the extent you're talking about, but not likely.
just a side note, the newest version of Firefox has spell check built in, everything I type incorrectly has a red line underneath with a right click quick fix
I agree, I think you and Spidergoat are probably right, but we are talking inductive logic based on our current understanding of a hypothetical future event and cannot rule out the possibility of exceptions.
For example if we determined that 'the person' was an emergent property of a particular configuration of molecules and recreated the conditions then the same 'person' might re-emerge.
Yes, I've seen footage of Orthodox Jews collecting up every last particle of Jewish bodies which have been blown up by suicide bombers... There may be some later developments in Judaism about heaven and hell, but basically there is no heaven and hell in Judaism as places of reward and punishment after death. These are Christian concepts...no hellfire speeches in Synagogues. In ancient times they would bury the body in an underground family vault, and then after a year or two when the body had decomposed, the bones were placed in an ossuary (bone box). All based on the assumption that someday a Messiah would come and usher in a new age of God's kingdom on EARTH, when the dead would rise, and the world would be ruled from Jerusalem.
there is the age-old question in cognitive science If you completely replicate a brain, down to the individual molecules making it up, and place it in another skull. What happens?
