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Natural
06-26-03, 09:51 AM
If we begin with a loud sound and add a copy of that soundwave that is 1/2 cycle or wavelength out of phase with the first soundwave, will destructive interference mute or dilute the amplitude of both sounds? :)

blackholesun
06-26-03, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by Natural
If we begin with a loud sound and add a copy of that soundwave that is 1/2 cycle or wavelength out of phase with the first soundwave, will destructive interference mute or dilute the amplitude of both sounds? :)

You answered your own question...hence destructive interference

Natural
06-26-03, 11:10 AM
Then why isn't this approach used to muffle sounds, or is it? I work in an industry where noise can sometimes be a problem and must be muffled (at great expense) but I've never heard of such technology.

ElectricFetus
06-26-03, 11:45 AM
Car Mufflers work by doing that already!

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/muffler.htm

Natural
06-27-03, 11:07 AM
Thanks fetus, that's interesting. Ever heard of any examples of this principle not in an enclosure?

river-wind
06-27-03, 05:03 PM
Dolby Noise Reduction uses an inverted sound wave to reduce the static noise of recordings. and it does it electronically, in real time!! cool stuff, that.

Gifted
06-27-03, 05:55 PM
Is there a way, transfering the wave to different materials, not using an active system, to perhaps delay part of the wave, producing an inverse?

ElectricFetus
06-30-03, 11:07 AM
Natural,

Yes I have, I hear of focused sound speaks, by placing several in a line and electronically controlling each ones output and phase with each other, most of the sound can be cancel out except for a focused, electrically aimed beam . It planed for use as a sonic less-then-lethal weapon and making interactive advertisements.

Natural
06-30-03, 12:10 PM
It planed for use as a sonic less-then-lethal weapon and making interactive advertisements.

I should have guessed the powers that be would try to use it for a weapon. :bugeye:
Maybe its also involved in the production of surround sound or "holographic" sound systems.
Anyway, it's news to me. Thanks WellCookedFetus.

Canute
07-01-03, 09:20 AM
Such phase cancellation is used a lot in recording studios to prevent spillage between mics etc.

MechTech
07-02-03, 05:42 PM
Someone should really make electronic headphones which take, as input, the sound before you would hear it, and then produce the opposite waveforms----that way you get complete silence:)

Such a product would sell very well, I would imagine-----especially for people in high noise industries.

Pete
07-02-03, 07:00 PM
Try a search on "active earmuffs".

Natural
07-05-03, 12:00 PM
Very cool, Pete. Just what I was looking for! Thanx. :)