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[QUOTE=Kittamaru;2148536]1) Irrelevent - you know your enemy or you die in the smuggling world. Trust me - my father is ex-sas and he knows the kind. They aren't as incompetent as the Media makes em.
2) Then it's a naught point - ONE SCIENTIST doesn't know EVERY SECRET of the ship! MAYBE they could build the engines, or the armor, or the hull, or the resonance torpedoes... but not ALL of it.
3) Again, without all of em, it doesn't matter.
4) That's great - prove they didn't upgrade their weapons between the movies and then...
5) It doesn't matter... if you want to bring the PAST into play, SW is DOOMED to fail due to the players in the past of ST... a big one being the creators of the DDD and the DysonSphere![/QUOTE]
1)They can exaggerate yes?
2) The torpedoes is the only necessary part to do the job.
3) I said the clone troopers used DC-15
4) I never said I will use Centerpoint, I am just saying how far back counts too.
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[QUOTE=Kittamaru;2148544]Chipped = DAMAGED. As in a CHIP is missing from the table, but it's still usable.
THAT BRIDGE IS FUCKING GONE! HOME - FUCKING - RUN![/QUOTE]
There isn't any scenes for the movie that shows what happened to the bridge without the debris.
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Yes, they can - would YOU exagerate at a time like that, when you're very LIFE depended on it? I HIGHLY DOUBT IT. IF you would, I hope your life comes to a quick, painless end, rather than a long drawn out one.
Uhm... no? Without the resonance chamber of the ship itself, they're INERT. Read the damn book you moron.
I don't care what the clone troopers use... they're mostly gone. It's all stormtroopers now, what do they use?
It doesn't matter... anything less than PRESENT is PAST.
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[QUOTE=Kittamaru;2148545]And yet, in the movies, the force can't do SHIT except let you jump high, withstand freaky environments, and other things EASILY done and bested with technology.[/QUOTE]
In the movies, they never shown how a really good Jedi or Sith uses the force. Skywalker didn't need to use the force all the time just so say that he can do it. Average and exceptional are different.
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[QUOTE=Uchiha Madara;2148565]There isn't any scenes for the movie that shows what happened to the bridge without the debris.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. Now, that leaves us with what we SEE in that ONE scene. We SEE the bridge is no longer attached to the SHIP... thus, we must assume it's been either OBLITERATED or CLEAVED OFF. Either way, the ISD is pretty well dead in the water.
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[QUOTE=Uchiha Madara;2148569]In the movies, they never shown how a really good Jedi or Sith uses the force. Skywalker didn't need to use the force all the time just so say that he can do it. Average and exceptional are different.[/QUOTE]
Fine... but the movies are HIGHEST cannon. If we see anything to contradict it there, it wins. No matter the reason. Or would you like to argue with Lucas of that one?
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[QUOTE=Kittamaru;2148548]How old are you... two? When you HAVE A LOCK, you fire. if he's THAT incompetent, that just DOOMS you even more![/QUOTE]
He isn't the best pilot in the galaxy you know, and rebels can't afford to be picky.
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[QUOTE=Uchiha Madara;2148573]He isn't the best pilot in the galaxy you know, and rebels can't afford to be picky.[/QUOTE]
... wow... just... wow...
I have NO formal flight training... and I would be able to do better than that...
*watch computer*
*wait for lock indicator*
*see lock indicator*
*fire*
*enemy goes boom*
NOT that difficult...
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[QUOTE=Kittamaru;2148568]Yes, they can - would YOU exagerate at a time like that, when you're very LIFE depended on it? I HIGHLY DOUBT IT. IF you would, I hope your life comes to a quick, painless end, rather than a long drawn out one.
Uhm... no? Without the resonance chamber of the ship itself, they're INERT. Read the damn book you moron.
I don't care what the clone troopers use... they're mostly gone. It's all stormtroopers now, what do they use?
It doesn't matter... anything less than PRESENT is PAST.[/QUOTE]
When he said it, he was trying to say that Aldereen isn't destroyed, he didn't even see the death star yet. No, at the moment his life isn't in danger against a TIE fighter.
I said all the scientist need to know is about the resonance torpedo, the rest can be reconstructed based on that information.
Stormtroopers use E-11.
And it is the 21st century 8 years ago, and it is the 19th century 10 years ago. It is BCE 2010 years ago.......
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[QUOTE=Kittamaru;2148570]Exactly. Now, that leaves us with what we SEE in that ONE scene. We SEE the bridge is no longer attached to the SHIP... thus, we must assume it's been either OBLITERATED or CLEAVED OFF. Either way, the ISD is pretty well dead in the water.[/QUOTE]
I will argue that once I find some new proof. Remember they have been in there for days.
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Uh... hello?
*sighs* Okay, look. Take Einstein. Do you think just because he worked on the Manhatten Project he could build an Atom Bomb on his own?
3) fine
4) What's the point? The SW universe really hasn't changed much in how long?
The prequal triliogy ruined the timeline something feirce unfortunately...
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[QUOTE=Kittamaru;2148572]Fine... but the movies are HIGHEST cannon. If we see anything to contradict it there, it wins. No matter the reason. Or would you like to argue with Lucas of that one?[/QUOTE]
I have to agree on that one.
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[QUOTE=Uchiha Madara;2148580]I will argue that once I find some new proof. Remember they have been in there for days.[/QUOTE]
Then I guess you wont' be arguing again... because there is no proof. It's gone.
I'm out anyway... I have stuff to get done before I go to bed.
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[QUOTE=Kittamaru;2148576]... wow... just... wow...
I have NO formal flight training... and I would be able to do better than that...
*watch computer*
*wait for lock indicator*
*see lock indicator*
*fire*
*enemy goes boom*
NOT that difficult...[/QUOTE]
1) No offense but you will be shot out of the sky as soon as you enter the battlefield
2) It is an adrenaline high battle with enemies fighting back
3) He is not very confident either
You never been in a battle so you wouldn't know how much pressure it is. I haven't been in a real battle either just for the record.
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[QUOTE=Kittamaru;2148581]Uh... hello?
*sighs* Okay, look. Take Einstein. Do you think just because he worked on the Manhatten Project he could build an Atom Bomb on his own?
3) fine
4) What's the point? The SW universe really hasn't changed much in how long?
The prequal triliogy ruined the timeline something feirce unfortunately...[/QUOTE]
E-11 and DC-15 are different.
Einstein couldn't, but he did most of it.
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[QUOTE=Kittamaru;2148583]Then I guess you wont' be arguing again... because there is no proof. It's gone.
I'm out anyway... I have stuff to get done before I go to bed.[/QUOTE]
I said I won't argue about the bridge.
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[QUOTE=Uchiha Madara;2148585]1) No offense but you will be shot out of the sky as soon as you enter the battlefield
2) It is an adrenaline high battle with enemies fighting back
3) He is not very confident either
You never been in a battle so you wouldn't know how much pressure it is. I haven't been in a real battle either just for the record.[/QUOTE]
Heh, don't go putting words into my mouth. I have most DEFINATELY been in a battle. Ever have to fight for you life against a carful of thugs twice your age and size armed with everything from baseball bats to crowbars?
No?
it's NOT fun... especially not for a 16 year old.
And I'll tell you something else:
Not ONE of them left that day without at least one broken bone.
Myself?
I wound up stabbed in the stomache and shoulder.
NOT fun... and the adrenaline high was incredible. But you know what? I kept my cool, remembered my self defense training (like I said, father is ex-sas) and kicked their ass...
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[QUOTE=Uchiha Madara;2148586]E-11 and DC-15 are different.
Einstein couldn't, but he did most of it.[/QUOTE]
AHA! But could he do ALL of it? No.
Neither could who-cares-what-his-name-is-random-scientist-number-six.
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[QUOTE=Kittamaru;2148595]Heh, don't go putting words into my mouth. I have most DEFINATELY been in a battle. Ever have to fight for you life against a carful of thugs twice your age and size armed with everything from baseball bats to crowbars?
No?
it's NOT fun... especially not for a 16 year old.
And I'll tell you something else:
Not ONE of them left that day without at least one broken bone.
Myself?
I wound up stabbed in the stomache and shoulder.
NOT fun... and the adrenaline high was incredible. But you know what? I kept my cool, remembered my self defense training (like I said, father is ex-sas) and kicked their ass...[/QUOTE]
Wow, you definitely earned my respect ( I am serious ). I meant a real war, not against some thugs. Do the thugs have chain guns and assault rifles? I don't think so. Although it was pretty amazing what you did, if I were you I would of just ran the other way ( I am being honest about this ) and hope that they can't catch up. I can't believe society is like this today.
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[QUOTE=Kittamaru;2148596]AHA! But could he do ALL of it? No.
Neither could who-cares-what-his-name-is-random-scientist-number-six.[/QUOTE]
Well, Einstein did most of the work. It was a group effort.
