[QUOTE=Kittamaru;1854359]1) And your point?
2) Re-read saquists and the others calculations... no, they can't. They'd be lucky to withstand a dozen phaser blasts from a Type 10 array... a Type 12 phaser array would cut thru an ISD's shields like a hot knife thru butter.
Saquist - would you be willing to re-post your calculations?
3) I don't care if they rarely do... when they DO bad things would happen![/QUOTE]
1) Proof? First you said the astroid destroyed the bridge, it didn't the impact destroyed the astorid
2) Yes bad things did happen, they are supposed to happen. They are build to pull ships
[QUOTE=Kittamaru;1854360]So you are saying Luke is an even BIGGER pussy than Vader... gotcha.
*shakes his head* yer digging yourself one hell of a hole... you are saying the Emporers right hand man, his Oh Em Gee boat of power is a whimp... great.[/QUOTE]
He is the most powerful person ( scince he is a force ghost, his power reach his full protencial )
1.But my point is that many people and items that do not have midichlorian or have low counts have force powers/abilities. The Aing Ti monks trained a non force sensitive to use teleportational abilities as well as others. So it might be that people with a high midichlorian count just have an easier time learning them.
2.I assume you are now talking about the apparant discrepiency of the SW ray shields and the Vong singularity shields. How the singularity can suck up the shields. Well if you read the books you understand that the singularity shield sucks up matter and energy for the beast to consume. It does have a preset limit depending on the size of the creature. [/QUOTE]
1. i see your point.however in PM it is explicitly said that without the midichlorians there would be no conection with the force, so i consider them as relays.
2. but the quote said that gravitonic and magnetic influences could cause such an effect. if the shields can be pulled-out by magnetic fields, some kind of ionized particles must be used.
[QUOTE=Kittamaru;1854364]They would act as they REALLY would - doe the Republic and CIS get along like butt buddies, or do they normally hate each other?
And if it's Full universe vs Full Universe, then yes, Q is on Treks side. As are all the other beings that make Jedi powers seem like silly parlor tricks.[/QUOTE]
CIS and Republic used to be one, but they hate each other scince the Clone Wars.
[QUOTE=Kittamaru;1854372]Uhm... Romulan Star Empire and United Federation of Planets are allies post Nemesis...[/QUOTE]
Exactly, how do we know that the Federation won't strike first?
[QUOTE=TW Scott;1852497]Or might not pick them up at all. The first trill we see beamed onto the Enterprise Dmade it through transporters with absolutely no mention of the symbiont. Which would be ignored if it was not for the fact that no one on board seemed to know they had a symbiote.
My guess is transprter filters are programmed to recognize a specific set of contagions and when gone to maximum recognize a few thousand more as potentially harmfull. Otherwise they would never be able to digest anything becuase all the intestinal flora would have been removed a long time ago.[/QUOTE]
do you speak of ambassador Odan in "The Host"?
[QUOTE=Kittamaru;1854376]No, it couldn't.
Han said so, directly in the movies - 1000 ISD's couldn't do that.
Sorry, you fail.[/QUOTE]
Exactly Han said so. He only stayed in the Imperial Navy for a few months ( not counting the Acadmy training ). ' [B]More firepower I've[/B] '
He don't know the full power of an Imperial Star Destroyer.
[QUOTE=TW Scott;1852503]How do you explain all the force-like abilities. Of course if you are going to claim that Jedi-sith/aing ti are powerless outside their galaxy then you suffer same fate. Only the Traveller has shown any ability outside the Milky Way.....
I'm sure you don't want to play that way becuase then SW wins becuase all they have to do is use the Galaxy Gun to hyperspace projectiles from their Galaxy to the Milky Way. It would take ST millenia to reach SW galaxy but only days for the projectiles to reach our stars with resonance torpedoes.
And we already know the Traveller and Wesley take NO SIDES in a battle even when the latters mother and best friends were in danger.[/QUOTE]
that's not fair at all. many phantasy and SF works contain "magical" abilities. prescribing them all to the Force is "forcing" the canon. in all fairness what makes the Force being the Force is not what it does but how it does it.
[QUOTE=SkywalkerJedi;1852873]I know it regenerate, but it is way to slow. I spend one hour fighting and it haven't rechagred ( mabey a little exaggeration ) from no shields. It the plyons are damaged, it can't recharge.[/QUOTE]
please then, next time you know something don't waste several pages arguing against it.
[QUOTE=Kittamaru;1854378]StarFleet is a military fleet... are you daft?
STARFLEET is the Military Branch of the United Federation of Planets, namely the NAVAL branch.
There are Ground forces as well (Elite Force books detail them more than any Star Trek episode, but they are mentioned a few times) and they work in cooperations with the StarFleet[/QUOTE]
Some military, more like a flying junkyard. Grand Army of the Republic is REAL military.
I said this before, the one that blew up an astroid is a long range tubolaser and I was wrong about it have the firepower of a medium turbolaser there is no medium turbolaser and long range turbolasers are only slightly stronger then light turbolaser ( or the same ). Anything below a quad turbolaser is junk ( that means light turbolasers and long range turbolaser ), so they are worthless. Also the didn't need to fire on the astorid, they did so because they want a clear communication ( remember they weren't using the holonet ). So you match Federation phaser jumk with Star Wars light turbolasers?
you said many things and it turns out you made many of them up. the on screen evidence suports the idea that those were very small bolts. so whatever your source is (if you even have it) contradicts with the movie.
[QUOTE=antaran_1979;1854435]1. i see your point.however in PM it is explicitly said that without the midichlorians there would be no conection with the force, so i consider them as relays.
2. but the quote said that gravitonic and magnetic influences could cause such an effect. if the shields can be pulled-out by magnetic fields, some kind of ionized particles must be used.[/QUOTE]
1. I have to agree on the first one, your right
2. Dovin Bassils are also the engine of a coalskipper or any other Vong craft
[QUOTE=SkywalkerJedi;1852917]So can every single Indictor class. Star Wars will just shoot the moon instead.
You can't jump to hyperspace will a planetary gravity well, but you can stay in it even if it is a netron star. As for Death Star, it is acully a gravity well lock on ,because there is no way to identify the diffrence with a small freighter like the Falcon.
no you can't go through planetary objests wile in hyperspace.
[QUOTE=SkywalkerJedi;1852921]Again Gravity Well lock on.[/QUOTE]
a lie! gravity wells do not lock on targets.
[QUOTE=SkywalkerJedi;1852942]Still the same, because the will "bring" the force the milky way. All they have to do is to be force sensitive.[/QUOTE]
yeah right! tell them to bring me some hot-dogs too.
you said many things and it turns out you made many of them up. the on screen evidence suports the idea that those were very small bolts. so whatever your source is (if you even have it) contradicts with the movie.[/QUOTE]
You just proved my point, it is a weak shot. The Long Range Turbolasers are at the front and the shot is fired from the front. And Long Range Turbolasers are junk.
[QUOTE=antaran_1979;1854442]please then, next time you know something don't waste several pages arguing against it.[/QUOTE]
I just usally gather the troops with no full shields and send them on a suicide mission. So it don't really matters to me if they regenerate.
[QUOTE=SkywalkerJedi;1852948]Why did they have trouble going in a netron star in voyager? Centerpoint can crush a whole star system, can any blackhole do that?[/QUOTE]
again, read my posts! a black hole has less gravity pull then a star that created it. hoever if something enters a black hole itt no longer exists in any way consivable. if you enter a star you still exist (you are only turned to plasma). copy that red leader?
[QUOTE=antaran_1979;1854452]a lie! gravity wells do not lock on targets.[/QUOTE]
I ment to say the gravity well is on.
[QUOTE=SkywalkerJedi;1852953]Too long, it is almost like forever entill the shields are full chagred again ( without battery ).[/QUOTE]
the point is it recharges. did you notice how long it takes for an X-Wing to recharge a compleatly drained shield in X-Wing games?