Well someone said you could find it in a nebula and that ships were made out of it. perhaps I'm thinking of Blade or Ent-D?
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Well someone said you could find it in a nebula and that ships were made out of it. perhaps I'm thinking of Blade or Ent-D?
As for the HVG, it shoots rounds designed to overwhelm ISD particle shield, much like how an asteroid field gradually wears on the shields. On an Unshielded one, it would rip straight through. And I think there is one weapon in SW that ST is particularly vulnarable to: disrupters. They work on exactly the same princaples as the ST one, and also can compleatly desentigrate a target. it is unsurprising the, that they were outlawed ( leaving no evidence of a crime). But I'm sure they would not hesitate to outfit ships with large versions of the weapon.
[QUOTE=halo07guy;1482615]Well someone said you could find it in a nebula and that ships were made out of it. perhaps I'm thinking of Blade or Ent-D?[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="Red"]Heh, well, they were both VERY wrong. Only in a Neutron Star, and it's NOT used in Starship engineering.[/COLOR]
[QUOTE=halo07guy;1482618]As for the HVG, it shoots rounds designed to overwhelm ISD particle shield, much like how an asteroid field gradually wears on the shields. On an Unshielded one, it would rip straight through. And I think there is one weapon in SW that ST is particularly vulnarable to: disrupters. They work on exactly the same princaples as the ST one, and also can compleatly desentigrate a target. it is unsurprising the, that they were outlawed ( leaving no evidence of a crime). But I'm sure they would not hesitate to outfit ships with large versions of the weapon.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="Red"]In Star Trek, disruptors are, indeed, devistating. That is assuming you can get thru the shields, which is why they are often pulsed. The pulses disrupt the grid and give the chance of the disruptor passing thru the shields. impact with the hull.... well, you know how disruptors work XD[/COLOR]
the are two versions of the Disrupter in SW: Beam and what Iguess is the equivalent of pulsed in ST. So replace th 60 turbolaser batterys on a ISD with very large pulsed Disrupters.......
[COLOR="Red"]And now you have an ISD with no power left to do anything else... disruptors in Star Trek are power hungry enough, I can't imagine what an upscaled versions requirements would be! Then again, pulse phasers have proven to be slightly more powerful at close ranges than even disruptor blasts... so sure, why not. You're ISD's now have disruptor turrets.
Now you just have to manage to hit us :P[/COLOR]
[QUOTE=halo07guy;1482615]Well someone said you could find it in a nebula and that ships were made out of it. perhaps I'm thinking of Blade or Ent-D?[/QUOTE]
I pm'd it, but I thought I'd defend myself, I would not have said Starfleet ships are made of neutronium.
Well, I remember someone saying that ships were built out of it and it can be found in a nebula a while ago.
Also, Kittamaru, I think I remember reading a description of what it feels like to be hit by a disrupter.
It said something about it felling like being cut ope, then healing, then being cut open even more. Suppposedly very painful.
And the Disrupters in SW have one key difference from ST: They have the energy stored in clips for the handheld versions. It does the same damage, but the enerhy is held in what I guess could be called capacitor rounds, kind of like batterys. Though I think a ISDs reactor would be able to power the weapons and other systems. Though it is not mentioned in the movies, the Yavin base and its defenses, which both requeired tremendous amounts of energy, were powered by a single reactor from an Imperial-Class. It was said that the shield that protected the place was capable of holding off an orbital bombardment for months. Echo base had all its power come from a Praetor-Class Battlecruiser, which are about 3 times bigger then an ISD.
So an ISD equipped with weapons that are extreamly dangerous to everything ( In fact, I think the Superlaser may have been a giant Disrupter.)
You can correct me if anything I said is wrong.
Star Fleet ships certainly are not made from neutronium and quite evidently by a Star Destroyers destructability...neither is any ship made by the Empire or the Alliance or the Galactic Alliance.
Note: TWSCOTT has once again restated his pedantic rhetoric to press his agenda of superior fire power over Star Fleet...
Note: that he can not refute the evidence regarded in TNG against the Borg Cube wich show up to 8 times the fire power of a TL from Star Wars and the substaniating evidence in Star Trek Voyager as Voyager took on 8 carrier ships in Basics.
While I'm sure he believes this with whole soul...He's yet to prove this to anyone...probably least of all himself.
[QUOTE=Hellblade8;1452285]No it wouldn't. A phasers are very small and cover a small area, they would sooner go dry than cause a large amount of damage.
Or perhaps because that would be dangerous? And how many times do they have a barricade? And you realize that most of the officers we see are security officers?
You mean ignoring the fact that a meter long attacker with much smaller beam weapons giving out a much higer yield was unable to do the same to a old cruiser that's enhanced version was outdated when Kirk was an Admiral?
Except it doesn't work that way. This is an energy field that works off a network of emitters. The only way to do what you propse would be to overload the emitters faster than they can compensate for the energy, and that would only deal damage to a small area, not take down six different shield emitters. Furthermore, the bolt that youy "Suggest wasn't a pin point weapon. The weapons impacted upon the shields and engulfed them.
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So here your theory is worthless, the ship's weapons engulfed the entire shield grid and in that case, affected it like a wide area dispersal weapon, thus making your theory no longer valid.[/QUOTE]
Hellblade made this most astute observation of TW SCOTT's argument....
All in all SCOTTs be depending of out of context obersvations that in order to reproduce require a superbeing in like Kevin Uxbridge to at the time of an Imperial invasion in order to make sure you get the same effects.
Scotty believes that a weapon that instanly dropped the Enterprises shields suddenly had little to no effect to the hull of the ship....
Scott saying that the Hull took far more wattage than the shields did....completely ignoring this oddity he attempts to persaude us that this was not merely the case of supernatural influence on the Enterprise ...
Even as the Enterprise has endure up 2 Terrawatt power sources.
Scott can't face these issue because to do so would upset a belief system that he's clung to for nearly 250 pages....In his thinking he certainly can't say he's wrong after all this.
If anyones planing to make a video of this ( I don't mean the ones already on youtube) kind of battle, I think I've found the perfect song. Its called "Barbossa is Hungry". It would be perfect for a CGI video if any of us new how to make one.
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Kazon weapons have always been extremely weak against Voyager's shields. Infact this exactly as the first episode proceede. The Voyager took a beating but they were never in any danger from one carrier ship and a shielded raider.
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In this clip Voyagers using three beams and the diverging two beams have created an explosion on the ship that nearly rivals the size of Voyager herself. To create an ignition flash point nearly 344 meters in diameter is working with incedible megaton fire power in the range of 5 to 10 megatons. And it's canon that those beams can be adjusted to the tactical officers wishes and frequently are altered.
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This is the tird vessel...from the look of the detonation Voyager is targeting weapon enplacements.[/QUOTE]
This is a perfect example of Voyager vs a Star Destroyer....
A Kazon Carrier vessel is even larger than the ISD. Voyager's firepower is evident.
As it stands the Imperial Star Destroyer destroyed a 40 meter wide asteroid (aledgedly)...which the max a SD has been seen. The ICS boast 200 GIGATON.
That's been revealed as a simple children book that has no relation to the onscreen. And under George Lucas statements and statements on Lucas canon policy...says that "the films are absolute." Nothing beyond them belongs in relation to them.
I think someones Hyper-interpeting......
Voyager destroyed one these carriers before it was taken down by sabotage. It really doesn't bold well for the Star Destroyer.
he does have a point... 40 meter asteroid compared to a 5 km shielded and armored starship...
This would be the ship Voyager destroyed with just 3 photon torpedoes
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This ship...longer than a Star Destroyer and far larger Voyager, at 344 meters took out in just one pass
You wanna talk Multi-Giga Ton? Star Wars hasn't even seen explosions this big just froma torpedo blast....
Tuvok must have modifed these torps for maximum explosive yield. That explosion is a Star Destroyer....
Pictures speak the Truth and TWSCOTT has nothing but his lies....caught...time and time and time again on these forums.
Wow, this thread is still going? :bugeye: :D
Largest....Thread....Ever! ( Becomes bloated by data)