Star Wars vs Star Trek

Back to the subject !!! I think Dune would win. (Now would someone please just call me an idiot, and get on with The Circle Of Forum-Debates?)

Hey now, you're not an idiot. I think Dune would win as well!

Do the books ever give any exact numbers on how many no-ships there were?

Taking them literally as "no ships," the answer is none...

Har-de-har har. Hey, isn't there some rule that if a thread becomes bigger than 20 pages, it shuts down? If true, we have to stop making jokes.

[QUOTE=Nasor]Do the books ever give any exact numbers on how many no-ships there were?[/QUOTE]

Nope, nothing is exactly ever given in any of the books. They just talk about how many there are..

The [I]Dune[/I] universe was fairly impressive - but I still find it vaguely annoying, the idea that in a distant future of pan-galactic civilization based on unimaginable technology and cultural progress, government will revert to hereditary monarchy and aristocracies. (Still less to military dictatorship.) This is a major step backward, not forward! :(

The Federation in [I]Star Trek [/I] is, by Gene Roddenberry's design, an enlightened democracy, and is reassuringly the dominant power in our corner of the Galaxy. Even the Galactic Republic, as portrayed in [I]Star Wars [/I] episodes I & II, seemed like a fair and egalitarian system for collectively governing so many different member societies - however decayed and imperfect it had become.

Some of the various authors who foresee a slide back into absolute oligarchies as the future of humanity, regardless of scientific advance and interstellar expansion, must have developed a plausible reason - beyond the mere dramatic storytelling potential of feuding cosmic nobility and royal intigues on a galactic scale! :rolleyes: Perhaps Frank Herbert and others imagined that, if the human race dispersed across thousands of worlds and became ever more culturally diverse, we would discover a need for powerful public figures and heredities - ultimately, a single Emporer - in order to maintain our sense of identity as a species?

Hmmm...has anyone noticed where the trekkies and warries have gone?
They must have run away. VICTORY TO DUNE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That would be a pity, if the decadent Paddishah emporers and their scheming aristocrats triumphed over the Federation and/or the Rebel Alliance! Still... better them ruling the Milky Way than the Borg.

[QUOTE=Kron]Hmmm...has anyone noticed where the trekkies and warries have gone?
They must have run away. VICTORY TO DUNE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]


Ha! We are the bettAr debaters here!

Also, the moderator to this section is in my N+ class, in fact he sits not 5 feet away from me! :eek:

[quote]Also, the moderator to this section is in my N+ class, in fact he sits not 5 feet away from me! [/quote]

Indeed, I do. But remember, I can see your IP address!

[QUOTE=CounslerCoffee]Indeed, I do. But remember, I can see your IP address![/QUOTE]

But can you get it without using the mighty ip button?!? :D :D

I do not have those skills. I am but a young padawan learner.

You can get in line behind Brian if you want me to hack ya :D God knows it's coming quickly to him. :D If Godwin doesn't off him first that is. :D

Did you manage to get his IP? I know Chris was trying to do something to him while he was on the computer and Godwin was talking.

[QUOTE=OpteronGuy]Ha! We are the bettAr debaters here!

Also, the moderator to this section is in my N+ class, in fact he sits not 5 feet away from me! :eek:[/QUOTE]

HA. You guys are so easy to bait !!!

[QUOTE=CounslerCoffee]Did you manage to get his IP? I know Chris was trying to do something to him while he was on the computer and Godwin was talking.[/QUOTE]

No, she turned his comp off before I could. Alas, come Monday.. He is mine! :D

[quote=Kron]HA. You guys are so easy to bait !!![/quote]

Huh???!??! :D

If that doesn't keep him awake; a swift slap accross the face is in order.

:d:d

The post saying "VICTORY TO DUNE !!!" was bait to lure you trekkies and warries outta bed.