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I mean, i guess that could be an interesting tactic... pop off a laser at the guy just before transporting the fuck outa there...[/QUOTE]
Duncan Idaho uses the laser-shield interaction to setup minefields in [I]Heretics of Dune[/I]. However, I think it relied on the enemy using Lazguns, which were prolific after the scattering. The reaction occurs simultaneously and is unpredictable; it can blow up at the shield or at the source or both and the explosion can be great or small.
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[QUOTE=Sardonic Crisis;2704338]It's been awhile, I thought I should bring Dune back into the argument.
*Dune is multi-galactic in scope and far outnumbers ST or SW.
*Dune has instantaneous travel.
(Glad to see that rice is gone, he's the reason I stopped bothering to come here)[/QUOTE]
REALLY?!
wow...
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photons == speed of light, end of story. Plus, phasers can emit lasers if they are set up that way.
One no ship is not that scary.
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[QUOTE=fedr808;2706780]photons == speed of light, end of story. Plus, phasers can emit lasers if they are set up that way.[/QUOTE]
I thought phasers were nadion particles or something like that.
[QUOTE]One no ship is not that scary.[/QUOTE]
There's more than one, they are the common mode of transportation from the scattering on. You are looking at a scale of millions.
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I think they might be able to find/track no ships... I mean, not right away, but they've been shown as capable of discovering new ways to track the unseen (such as Troi in Nemesis using her empathic powers to beat the Scimitar despite being cloaked, or using a modified Photon to track a cloaked BoP in Undiscovered Country)
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[QUOTE=fedr808;2706780]photons == speed of light, end of story. Plus, phasers can emit lasers if they are set up that way.
One no ship is not that scary.[/QUOTE]
Actually photons can TRAVEL at the speed of light photons itself doesn't equal speed of light, just like speed of light doesn't equal c, speed of light in a perfect vacuum = c.
I know what you mean, probably just an innocent mistake.
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[QUOTE=Kittamaru;2707050]I think they might be able to find/track no ships... I mean, not right away, but they've been shown as capable of discovering new ways to track the unseen (such as Troi in Nemesis using her empathic powers to beat the Scimitar despite being cloaked, or using a modified Photon to track a cloaked BoP in Undiscovered Country)[/QUOTE]
The no-ships conceal a ship from prescience so it would be safe to say that an empath wouldn't have any luck. They don't give off any electromagnetic signatures from what I remember... i'll take a look at books 5 and 6 later to be sure.
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[QUOTE=Sardonic Crisis;2707297]The no-ships conceal a ship from prescience so it would be safe to say that an empath wouldn't have any luck. They don't give off any electromagnetic signatures from what I remember... i'll take a look at books 5 and 6 later to be sure.[/QUOTE]
Might be able to track them via residual effects on subspace and what have you...
remember...
Bounce a tachyon particle beam off the main deflector dish... it's what we do :D
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Wow, look at the length of this thread. I'm a fan of both Star Trek and Star Wars, but I don't believe I could ever talk this much about the two.
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[QUOTE=Bowser;2707474]Wow, look at the length of this thread. I'm a fan of both Star Trek and Star Wars, but I don't believe I could ever talk this much about the two.[/QUOTE]
THEN YOU ARE NOT A TRUE FAN!!!!
LOL jk
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[QUOTE=Bowser;2707474]Wow, look at the length of this thread. I'm a fan of both Star Trek and Star Wars, but I don't believe I could ever talk this much about the two.[/QUOTE]
Star Wars vs Star Trek, since 2002 :D
Lol it have been a while...
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film= star wars
tv= star trek
But each does well in the other's arena.
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so many posts but not many votes
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The Dune universe's peoples' ability to foldspace would give them an unquestionable advantage over the Federation or the Empire.
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[QUOTE=universaldistress;2708075]The Dune universe's peoples' ability to foldspace would give them an unquestionable advantage over the Federation or the Empire.[/QUOTE]
Eh, not really... I mean, the Federation has transporters (and if the new movie is any indication, the potential for stellar-ranged transporters), plus they had variations on foldspace in more exotic devices (like that one doorway on ceti-alpha 6 i think it was)
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though i like the new star trek movies, the best as far as i can think, the part with interstellar transporters was way out. i mean, boom, suddenly scoty invented it (originality) and it works and not a single mention of it before, ever. i was like wtf is going on? really, take a transwarp shuttle, wormhole or something.
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[QUOTE=George1;2708165]though i like the new star trek movies, the best as far as i can think, the part with interstellar transporters was way out. i mean, boom, suddenly scoty invented it (originality) and it works and not a single mention of it before, ever. i was like wtf is going on? really, take a transwarp shuttle, wormhole or something.[/QUOTE]
Actually, it WAS mentioned before... and it was even hinted at in ST: Enterprise... hence the reference to Archer's beagle (remember how in one episode they were recovering people lost in the transporter pattern? Yeah, they were referencing that - pretty obscure, but awesome)
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[QUOTE=Kittamaru;2708296]Actually, it WAS mentioned before... and it was even hinted at in ST: Enterprise... hence the reference to Archer's beagle (remember how in one episode they were recovering people lost in the transporter pattern? Yeah, they were referencing that - pretty obscure, but awesome)[/QUOTE]
erm, what year was this happening? cuz Archer was born like in the 2110's or something like that, he was 30 or 40 in Enterprise. i know they were supposed to live longer, but what year dose the movie takes place? and how fucking old is that fucking beagle?
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[QUOTE=George1;2708297]erm, what year was this happening? cuz Archer was born like in the 2110's or something like that, he was 30 or 40 in Enterprise. i know they were supposed to live longer, but what year dose the movie takes place? and how fucking old is that fucking beagle?[/QUOTE]
*shrugs* I never said the timeline made perfect sense (lets face it, Enterprise was good at bending the timeline over and raping it in the ass), but if you remember, when they meet Mr. Scott, he says something along the lines of "you remember Admiral Archers prized beagle" to which Kirk says yes, then asks how it's doing. Scotty hides in his sleeve and goes "I'll let you know when it reappears"... LOL
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[QUOTE=Kittamaru;2708478]*shrugs* I never said the timeline made perfect sense (lets face it, Enterprise was good at bending the timeline over and raping it in the ass), but if you remember, when they meet Mr. Scott, he says something along the lines of "you remember Admiral Archers prized beagle" to which Kirk says yes, then asks how it's doing. Scotty hides in his sleeve and goes "I'll let you know when it reappears"... LOL[/QUOTE]
neither did i said it made sense. its really, really fucked up.
