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[QUOTE=Kittamaru;2622288]Lord Vespassian, White_Rabbit, and Rama were not part of the debate in question... lying again I see...
And Mike Schlong's numbers have been shown time and again to be wrong. Thus, hi work is full of shit. Lots of pretty pictures, but still shitty numbers.[/quote]
*yawn* not proof.
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The proof has been given to you, dozens of times. It's been handed to you on silver platters, placed in front of you in golden goblets, and even forced down your goddamn throat by the words of the countless others who see you as the absolute moron you are. You have LOST, good sir, both here and there. Here because people don't tolerate your bullshit. There because you had to change the rules just so you could stand a chance of winning, then changed them AGAIN when the first change didn't make you win.[/quote]
1) You NEVER gave ANY proof. You claimed that there was proof, but never showed it. That's because you're a RSA drone.
2) Do you have trouble reading? Giving you EU is not fucking making me win you dumbass fucker.
3) My thread, my rules.
4) I have asked a lot of people about you, and there responses weren't too kind. Here's one from Lord Vespassian.
[quote]One doesn't "deal" with him. He's a fine example of the "ferrous cranus" internet idiot. The last time I dealt with him, in the "Scimitar vs ISD" thread, I simply picked his argument to pieces and let the weight of opinion force him to run away.
Try stearing clear of the nerd-rage. People have gotten tired of that when it comes to SW long ago. It's better to mock or make fun of his idiocy, sort of along the same lines as how white_rabbit argues.
Or, if it gets particularly bad, report him. Don't publicize that, though, or it might blow up in your face. Those are my suggestions, at least. [/quote]
I believe he is referring to the Standard Star Destroyer vs Phaser-equipped Star Destroyer thread. Anyway, there's more to your behavior than that. According to you, Jedi Matt is a Star Wars fanboy, because his name is a reference to Star Wars, and yet you have him as friend. How many people's backs do you talk behind?
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You, sir, are like an angry little child that hasn't learned his place. Debating is not a right, it's a privilege. One I am honestly surprised you are still being allowed to exercise.[/QUOTE]
You're right. It's a surprise it hasn't been taken away from you. I've seen you "debate" with people multiple times and get called out as a liar. In fact, I recall you arguing with white_rabbit and not giving proof about your claims about titan size, wraithbone composition... and whatnot.
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[QUOTE=ricrery;2622293]*yawn* not proof.[/quote]
Yes, it is ; a fool like you clings to his desires despite hard evidence.
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1) You NEVER gave ANY proof. You claimed that there was proof, but never showed it. That's because you're a RSA drone.
2) Do you have trouble reading? Giving you EU is not fucking making me win you dumbass fucker.
3) My thread, my rules.
4) I have asked a lot of people about you, and there responses weren't too kind. Here's one from Lord Vespassian.[/quote]
Point 1) I don't have to - I gave it to you plenty of times before (as did DOZENS of other people) and you ignored it - you can scream and rant all you want, but I'm not going to post it again just because you're too stupid to find it - go back a few hundred pages and find it yourself.
Point 2) "Giving you EU is not fucking making me win" - you didn't give us EU you dolt. You took away Cannon Trek, then when that wasn't enough, you attempted to claim that it was "your thread your rules thus the ICS is the final word", altering canon to suit your desires. It's a pathetic attempt at posturing to make a weak position look stronger, and it failed.
Point 3) Yes - your thread, yet you have to resort to cowardice, posturing, and changing the rules to win. Sad.
Point 4) He is more than welcome to his opinion, however wrong it may be *shrugs* Free country after all
[QUOTE=ricrery;2622293]
I believe he is referring to the Standard Star Destroyer vs Phaser-equipped Star Destroyer thread. Anyway, there's more to your behavior than that. According to you, Jedi Matt is a Star Wars fanboy, because his name is a reference to Star Wars, and yet you have him as friend. How many people's backs do you talk behind?[/quote]
Where did I claim Jedi Matt was a fanboy based on his name? And in case you didn't know, Jedi Matt and I have talked at length about a few subjects, a few of which you are not privy to know. And I generally don't talk about people behind their backs - it's better to talk about them to their face, because then you can learn if you were right or not. It's why I love when you are here - at every turn, and with every reply, you prove how insignificant you are. The fact that the debate becomes much more civil after you and you alone leave proves that you are nothing more than a Troll. Thanks to SpaceBattle's rules (not allowed to ignore people in the vs thread), you are a very successful troll.
[QUOTE=ricrery;2622293]
You're right. It's a surprise it hasn't been taken away from you. I've seen you "debate" with people multiple times and get called out as a liar. In fact, I recall you arguing with white_rabbit and not giving proof about your claims about titan size, wraithbone composition... and whatnot.[/QUOTE]
My argument with White_Rabbit was a simple one - we did not know what the hell wraithbone was made of - it could have been a ferro-titanium composite, neutronium, grape jelly, or male ejaculate. We are told precisely dick all about it's composition. Yet, in spite of that, White Rabbit thought it was possible to accurately state it's capabilities, even though they are never mentioned OR shown, and in spite of a complete lack of material data. My claims for Titan size were similar - they vary much like the size of the Defiant varies - I wanted nothing more than some actual proof of what the size was. Instead, White Rabbit was content to be argumentative and outright offensive, choosing to (poorly) argue the debater instead of the debate. That is a logical fallacy known as the Ad Hominem, a tactic you yourself employ far too often.
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[QUOTE=Kittamaru;2622297]Yes, it is ; a fool like you clings to his desires despite hard evidence.
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No, it's called a CLAIM. Not proof, CLAIM. Learn the difference you retard.
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Point 1) I don't have to - I gave it to you plenty of times before (as did DOZENS of other people) and you ignored it - you can scream and rant all you want, but I'm not going to post it again just because you're too stupid to find it - go back a few hundred pages and find it yourself.[/quote]
That's not the rules you dumbass. If I asked for proof, you show it, as Spacebattles says. Oh, and seeing as you believe "I made a claim, thus I proved my point" is actual debating, I would NEVER expect you to give proof.
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Point 2) "Giving you EU is not fucking making me win" - you didn't give us EU you dolt. You took away Cannon Trek, then when that wasn't enough, you attempted to claim that it was "your thread your rules thus the ICS is the final word", altering canon to suit your desires. It's a pathetic attempt at posturing to make a weak position look stronger, and it failed.
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Yes I did you dumb fucker. In case your thick skull hasn't noticed, EU Trek is stronger than TV Series Trek.
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Point 3) Yes - your thread, yet you have to resort to cowardice, posturing, and changing the rules to win. Sad.[/quote]
I was winning anyway against you. Oh hell, you couldn't even reply to one of my posts. You even had to crawl behind people smarter than you to debate for you, as Leetboi said in the very first thread you ever made.
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Point 4) He is more than welcome to his opinion, however wrong it may be *shrugs* Free country after all
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An opinion cannot be wrong, or were you born in the South? HE provided proof, YOU make claims that you never give evidence for. Even if an opinion could be right or wrong, then he would be right.
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Where did I claim Jedi Matt was a fanboy based on his name? And in case you didn't know, Jedi Matt and I have talked at length about a few subjects, a few of which you are not privy to know. And I generally don't talk about people behind their backs - it's better to talk about them to their face, because then you can learn if you were right or not. It's why I love when you are here - at every turn, and with every reply, you prove how insignificant you are. The fact that the debate becomes much more civil after you and you alone leave proves that you are nothing more than a Troll. Thanks to SpaceBattle's rules (not allowed to ignore people in the vs thread), you are a very successful troll.[/quote]
When I claimed that Jedi Matt was shocked that I was banned by Thanatos in May, you stated that "his name clearly shows his bias" defense. A Star Trek fanboy, LIKE YOU wouldn't be above such behavior though. Just look at the "Are there Civilizations that can Transport Suns" thread where Rama and Foamy were shocked that you were not temp-banned yet, and even Bettik, a calmer member, called you a retard, and then Vivftp, a Star Trek fan, also called you out.
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My argument with White_Rabbit was a simple one - we did not know what the hell wraithbone was made of - it could have been a ferro-titanium composite, neutronium, grape jelly, or male ejaculate. We are told precisely dick all about it's composition. Yet, in spite of that, White Rabbit thought it was possible to accurately state it's capabilities, even though they are never mentioned OR shown, and in spite of a complete lack of material data. My claims for Titan size were similar - they vary much like the size of the Defiant varies - I wanted nothing more than some actual proof of what the size was. Instead, White Rabbit was content to be argumentative and outright offensive, choosing to (poorly) argue the debater instead of the debate. That is a logical fallacy known as the Ad Hominem, a tactic you yourself employ far too often.[/QUOTE]
You were making the claims it was made out of condoms. His claims were simple; your claims were full of shit and unsupported.
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[QUOTE=ricrery;2622314]No, it's called a CLAIM. Not proof, CLAIM. Learn the difference you retard.[/quote]
There is no difference - you simply lack reading comprehension.
Let me spell it out for you: Those of us debating with you have given you the proof you requested MULTIPLE times in MULTIPLE threads. You simply "forget" it each time a new thread pops up. After a while, we have grown tired of your trollish ways, and would prefer to ignore you.
[QUOTE=ricrery;2622314]
That's not the rules you dumbass. If I asked for proof, you show it, as Spacebattles says. Oh, and seeing as you believe "I made a claim, thus I proved my point" is actual debating, I would NEVER expect you to give proof.
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Let me spell it out for you: Those of us debating with you have given you the proof you requested MULTIPLE times in MULTIPLE threads. You simply "forget" it each time a new thread pops up. After a while, we have grown tired of your trollish ways, and would prefer to ignore you.
[QUOTE=ricrery;2622314]
Yes I did you dumb fucker. In case your thick skull hasn't noticed, EU Trek is stronger than TV Series Trek.
I was winning anyway against you. Oh hell, you couldn't even reply to one of my posts. You even had to crawl behind people smarter than you to debate for you, as Leetboi said in the very first thread you ever made.
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*chuckles* My first thread ever... nice retort. Yes, in my first thread ever I made mistakes. I have, since then, learned a lot (including the fact that you are nothing more than an attention whoring troll); a common logical fallacy (Oh Noes! He made mistakes before! He MUST BE MISTAKEN NOW), but not surprising coming from you.
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An opinion cannot be wrong, or were you born in the South? HE provided proof, YOU make claims that you never give evidence for. Even if an opinion could be right or wrong, then he would be right.
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An opinion cannot be wrong, no - his description of me, however, was. You would have figured out that's what I meant, except that you did not want to.
[QUOTE=ricrery;2622314]
When I claimed that Jedi Matt was shocked that I was banned by Thanatos in May, you stated that "his name clearly shows his bias" defense. A Star Trek fanboy, LIKE YOU wouldn't be above such behavior though. Just look at the "Are there Civilizations that can Transport Suns" thread where Rama and Foamy were shocked that you were not temp-banned yet, and even Bettik, a calmer member, called you a retard, and then Vivftp, a Star Trek fan, also called you out.
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*Laughs* Ah me, your failure at comprehension is amazing.
As for the thread in question, any neutral party who would go over that thread would realize I had let myself be baited into that position, and that my initial claim still stands to this day. I allowed myself to be drawn off on a tangent that, ultimately, had nothing to do with the point in question.
[QUOTE=ricrery;2622314]
You were making the claims it was made out of condoms. His claims were simple; your claims were full of shit and unsupported.[/QUOTE]
No, my claim was that we didn't know what the material was, and gave an example. There is a difference, something trolls like you conveniently forget.
Rice Cake, lets make this simple - I don't like you, and you're an ignorant troll. You can't win a debates on the merits of your own arguments, so you instead attack the debaters and their mental faculties/mothers/competence/*insert random other insult here*. Fallacies flow from your mouth like water from a hot spring, and your insults are as common and as expected as Old Faithful's geyser. Your age, and lack of experience in the real world, has shielded you thus far, as has the fact that you are obviously a shielded child.
Let me point something shocking out to you - Mommy and Daddy cannot protect you forever. One day you will be thrust out into the world... if you have not learned a few key skills by then (not the least of which includes biting thy tongue and learning humility), then I fear not only for your future, but your very life. There are, honestly, people out there that would kill you for insulting them the way you insult us (the members of this forum and the members on Space Battles) on a daily basis. Sociopaths and Psychopaths do exist... and your internet tough guy act will not work against them.
For your own sake, I hope you grow up before you wind up six feet under (or worse, a play toy to some guy named Bubba). However, given your current track record (and apparent inability to reason with or even comprehend English and it's many rhetoric) I fear that such learning may be beyond your desire.
Grow up kid. Really. We're tired of your bullshit, your lies, and your attempt at trolling. Here, we can, and do, ignore you.
Now, unless anyone else has something worthwhile to contribute to this discussion, I'm going to put in a request to have this thread closed so that it can no longer be trolled.
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[QUOTE=Kittamaru;2622333]There is no difference - you simply lack reading comprehension.
Let me spell it out for you: Those of us debating with you have given you the proof you requested MULTIPLE times in MULTIPLE threads. You simply "forget" it each time a new thread pops up. After a while, we have grown tired of your trollish ways, and would prefer to ignore you.
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HAHAHA. Let me explain it to YOU. A CLAIM requires PROOF to be reliable. You have no PROOF, thus your CLAIM is unreliable.
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Let me spell it out for you: Those of us debating with you have given you the proof you requested MULTIPLE times in MULTIPLE threads. You simply "forget" it each time a new thread pops up. After a while, we have grown tired of your trollish ways, and would prefer to ignore you.
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HAHAHA. Is that why you've been told several times to give evidence by several people? Some of which who were there nearly a decade before you.
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*chuckles* My first thread ever... nice retort. Yes, in my first thread ever I made mistakes. I have, since then, learned a lot (including the fact that you are nothing more than an attention whoring troll); a common logical fallacy (Oh Noes! He made mistakes before! He MUST BE MISTAKEN NOW), but not surprising coming from you.
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Then you were proved to be full of shit in the thread I talked about before. Claims about how the Borg can move stars, or a simpler way to put it, BULLSHIT.
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An opinion cannot be wrong, no - his description of me, however, was. You would have figured out that's what I meant, except that you did not want to. [/quote]
You said that he can have his own opinion [i]even if it's wrong[/i]. Do you have a job in backpedaling? Because both Rama and Ralson called you out on this.
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*Laughs* Ah me, your failure at comprehension is amazing.
As for the thread in question, any neutral party who would go over that thread would realize I had let myself be baited into that position, and that my initial claim still stands to this day. I allowed myself to be drawn off on a tangent that, ultimately, had nothing to do with the point in question.[/quote]
You baited yourself into saying that the Enterprise D could move a decaying moon with no sweat, that the Borg could move stars with addons, and that the Romulans have real, visible black holes?
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No, my claim was that we didn't know what the material was, and gave an example. There is a difference, something trolls like you conveniently forget.
Rice Cake, lets make this simple - I don't like you, and you're an ignorant troll. You can't win a debates on the merits of your own arguments, so you instead attack the debaters and their mental faculties/mothers/competence/*insert random other insult here*. Fallacies flow from your mouth like water from a hot spring, and your insults are as common and as expected as Old Faithful's geyser. Your age, and lack of experience in the real world, has shielded you thus far, as has the fact that you are obviously a shielded child.
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Is that why YOU continue to make claims that you never provide proof for?
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Let me point something shocking out to you - Mommy and Daddy cannot protect you forever. One day you will be thrust out into the world... if you have not learned a few key skills by then (not the least of which includes biting thy tongue and learning humility), then I fear not only for your future, but your very life. There are, honestly, people out there that would kill you for insulting them the way you insult us (the members of this forum and the members on Space Battles) on a daily basis. Sociopaths and Psychopaths do exist... and your internet tough guy act will not work against them.[/quote]
I don't insult everyone 24/7, I insult morons like you. Internet Tough Guy? I thought that would be you. You also fail miserably at it. If you think you can act like that to someone like w_r, you are sadly mistaken. I, however, do not act "tough", but to you, I am just bullying you and your mental retardation.
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For your own sake, I hope you grow up before you wind up six feet under (or worse, a play toy to some guy named Bubba). However, given your current track record (and apparent inability to reason with or even comprehend English and it's many rhetoric) I fear that such learning may be beyond your desire.[/quote]
Really, this is hilarious coming from you, as you constantly attack members who actually want something a retard like you has never heard of; proof.
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Grow up kid. Really. We're tired of your bullshit, your lies, and your attempt at trolling. Here, we can, and do, ignore you.
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Bullshit? My worst posts are no bullshit than your TYPICAL posts. Lies? I can provide evidence, and as white_rabbit pointed out, you lie whenever you want, and backpedal when proven wrong. Trolling? I'm less of a troll than you.
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Now, unless anyone else has something worthwhile to contribute to this discussion, I'm going to put in a request to have this thread closed so that it can no longer be trolled.[/QUOTE]
Good luck trying to lock this thread down.
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[QUOTE=ricrery;2622338]HAHAHA. Let me explain it to YOU. A CLAIM requires PROOF to be reliable. You have no PROOF, thus your CLAIM is unreliable.
[COLOR="Red"]You laugh like you have a point... except you don't. The claim was already proven - I'm just not going to cater to your individual desires and re-post things that have been posted a plethora of times before, only to have you ignore it yet again. Ergo, you can do your own damn work.[/COLOR]
HAHAHA. Is that why you've been told several times to give evidence by several people? Some of which who were there nearly a decade before you.
[COLOR="Red"]And when, in the last few months, has that happened? Oh, right - never.[/COLOR]
Then you were proved to be full of shit in the thread I talked about before. Claims about how the Borg can move stars, or a simpler way to put it, BULLSHIT.
[COLOR="Red"]Oh my... flagrant lying again. I never claimed the Borg COULD move stars. I said that, if they were to do the same thing the Enterprise did, a Borg Cube, with it's much higher energy reserves and more powerful equipment, could likely move stars, considering a small Galaxy class could deflect a fragment of a neutron star (by a few degrees). Not an unreasonable assertion, as even a fragment of a neutron star is much heavier than the full mass of most stars.[/COLOR]
You said that he can have his own opinion [i]even if it's wrong[/i]. Do you have a job in backpedaling? Because both Rama and Ralson called you out on this.
[COLOR="Red"]Yes, I said he can have his own opinion, even if it is wrong. Thus, he can have his opinion, even if what he is saying is untrue. Do you really not understand this concept?[/COLOR]
You baited yourself into saying that the Enterprise D could move a decaying moon with no sweat, that the Borg could move stars with addons, and that the Romulans have real, visible black holes?
[COLOR="Red"]The Romulans do have black holes (there is no proof to the opposite). The Ent-D DID move a fucking moon no sweat, until it came UNDER ATTACK. The Borg, with the modifications I stated, could likely move a star, as the Ent-D (a much less powerful ship) was able to deflect a fragment of a NEUTRON STAR. None of these claims is unreasonable, nor unsubstantiated given what we have seen them do in the past.[/COLOR]
Is that why YOU continue to make claims that you never provide proof for?
[COLOR="Red"]My claims are proven - you just don't like it.[/COLOR]
I don't insult everyone 24/7, I insult morons like you. Internet Tough Guy? I thought that would be you. You also fail miserably at it. If you think you can act like that to someone like w_r, you are sadly mistaken. I, however, do not act "tough", but to you, I am just bullying you and your mental retardation.
[COLOR="Red"]Ahehehe, surely you jest. If anything, your grammatical incongruity, massive lack of even the most basic spellcheck, and incapability of understanding rhetoric, sarcasm, or even simple joks would indicate it is you who is mentally retarded. Also, who is w_r, and why do I care? You keep changing the subject... maybe I'll start calling you John Kerry?[/COLOR]
Really, this is hilarious coming from you, as you constantly attack members who actually want something a retard like you has never heard of; proof.
[COLOR="Red"]I do not attack members - I counter attack.[/COLOR]
Bullshit? My worst posts are no bullshit than your TYPICAL posts. Lies? I can provide evidence, and as white_rabbit pointed out, you lie whenever you want, and backpedal when proven wrong. Trolling? I'm less of a troll than you.
[COLOR="Red"]*chuckles* provide said evidence please - the last 3 months would suffice. [/COLOR]
Good luck trying to lock this thread down.[/QUOTE]
Oh, I'm not trying to lock this thread down - unlike you, who attempts to tell moderators what to do, I simply put in a request to have the thread either locked, or closely moderated. After all, it is you, not me, who has been banned MULTIPLE times for breaking the rules, personal insults, lying, and not providing evidence, not I.
Oh, and reported for the multiple insults - they are starting to wear a little thin.
Now, are you going to continue trolling, or do you actually have something to contribute? Because as it stands, the general consensus is that Trek has the capability to win, hands down, if we disallow the use of plot shields.
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[QUOTE=ricrery;2622338]HAHAHA. Let me explain it to YOU. A CLAIM requires PROOF to be reliable. You have no PROOF, thus your CLAIM is unreliable.
[COLOR="Red"]A claim does not necessarily require proof upfront. Claims are wat politicians do all the time, yet they neer provide proof.[/COLOR]
HAHAHA. Is that why you've been told several times to give evidence by several people? Some of which who were there nearly a decade before you.
[COLOR="Red"]He has given evidence. Those of us who consistently write here, HAVE provided proof.[/COLOR] [SIZE="5"][B][I]YOU CONTINUE TO IGNORE IT AND KEEP ON LIVING IN YOUR OWN FANTASY WORLD BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN BULLIED INTO SUBMISSION IN REAL LIFE. HA, REAL LIFE.[/I][/B][/SIZE]
Then you were proved to be full of shit in the thread I talked about before. Claims about how the Borg can move stars, or a simpler way to put it, BULLSHIT.
[COLOR="Red"][U]Proof has been provided[/U]. You ignore it because you are in [I][U]denial[/U][/I].[/COLOR]
You said that he can have his own opinion [i]even if it's wrong[/i]. Do you have a job in backpedaling? Because both Rama and Ralson called you out on this.
[COLOR="Red"]Wrong use of backpedalling. Go open the old Living Webster dictionary; if you have one that is. Doubtful.[/COLOR]
You baited yourself into saying that the Enterprise D could move a decaying moon with no sweat, that the Borg could move stars with addons, and that the Romulans have real, visible black holes?
[COLOR="Red"]Proof has been provided by he creators. Again, you ignore it because you are in denial.[/COLOR]
Is that why YOU continue to make claims that you never provide proof for?
[COLOR="Red"]He has. Stop throwing your emotional damage on to others. Enough already.
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I don't insult everyone 24/7, I insult morons like you. Internet Tough Guy? I thought that would be you. You also fail miserably at it. If you think you can act like that to someone like w_r, you are sadly mistaken. I, however, do not act "tough", but to you, I am just bullying you and your mental retardation.
[COLOR="Red"]Yes you do.
According to you all of us are morons because we reject your propaganda.[/COLOR]
Really, this is hilarious coming from you, as you constantly attack members who actually want something a retard like you has never heard of; proof.
[COLOR="Red"]No. Those members are just as much propaganda lovers, as you. The Vardarskan's would love to have you.[/COLOR]
Bullshit? My worst posts are no bullshit than your TYPICAL posts. Lies? I can provide evidence, and as white_rabbit pointed out, you lie whenever you want, and backpedal when proven wrong. Trolling? I'm less of a troll than you.
[COLOR="Red"]More fallacies. Bla bla bla. Your propaganda and emotional baggering is not "evidence". Epic fail.[/COLOR]
Good luck trying to lock this thread down.[/QUOTE]
Pfft....it is locked down, it'll be your fault.
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[QUOTE=Apocalypse2001;2620728]geek LOL[/QUOTE]
Yep. And proud of it. :)
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He's been banned... we have 14 days from yesterday to enjoy useful debate :)
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Im confused I thought you were all supposed to debate about who would win ST or SW I may be a newbie but getting into debates about who said what and getting nasty about it isnt right, debates should be fun and tough at the same time not getting mad and saying things youll regret later on. Oh and Star Trek wins the ships do have armor and the shields are better than the SW ones, in case you havent noticed the ST ships move faster than the damn death star and other ships. Duh and if any of the smaller fighters were to attack the way the ST ships are desined the phasers can go into a wider spread (as seen in nemises) and that would be that, agilility and superior ships. Take that SW
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[QUOTE=Kittamaru;2622930]He's been banned... we have 14 days from yesterday to enjoy useful debate :)[/QUOTE]
[I]temporarily[/I] again? :shrug:
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[QUOTE=Stray Dog5;2623235][B]Im confused I thought you were all supposed to debate about who would win ST or SW I may be a newbie but getting into debates about who said what and getting nasty about it[/B] isnt right, debates should be fun and tough at the same time not getting mad and saying things youll regret later on. Oh and Star Trek wins the ships do have armor and the shields are better than the SW ones, in case you havent noticed the ST ships move faster than the damn death star and other ships. Duh and if any of the smaller fighters were to attack the way the ST ships are desined the phasers can go into a wider spread (as seen in nemises) and that would be that, agilility and superior ships. Take that SW[/QUOTE]
true. But Ricerony will never understand that.
And welcome to the fold, fellow Trekkie :cool:
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So, question du jour: is it easier in [B]our[/B] century to create a battle droid or a Romulan warp core? --- :eek: oh, wait CERN is already close to making a primitive version of the latter. Tee hee. We're all doomed. :cheers:
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[QUOTE=Kittamaru;2622351]
Now, are you going to continue trolling, or do you actually have something to contribute? Because as it stands, the general consensus is that Trek has the capability to win, hands down, if we disallow the use of plot shields.[/QUOTE]
Assuming no supernatural intervention on either side.
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[QUOTE=Apocalypse2001;2623278][I]temporarily[/I] again? :shrug:[/QUOTE]
I lost counts of the times he got banned.
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Thank you for welcoming me and yes I do believe again that without any shields on both sides Star Trek would win with the use of the phaser and quantum and photon torpedoes in its arsenal, even though in SW you have to be pretty close to actually hit something even the small ships wouldn't have much effect. They would have to be pretty close to hit any of the ships, thus I use the allowance that the huge ships in SW are more for close side to side combat while the ST ships are more versatile in agility and weapon locking, so there take that.
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I know almost nothing about trek so I am just here to destroy anything that doesn't make sense.
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does that include the reason y you know almost nothing about Star Trek
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[QUOTE=Stray Dog5;2625134]does that include the reason y you know almost nothing about Star Trek?[/QUOTE]
hah....
well at least Shogun isn't delusional like somebody else ;) He admits his faults readily
[QUOTE=Stray Dog5;2623562]Thank you for welcoming me and yes I do believe again that without any shields on both sides Star Trek would win with the use of the phaser and quantum and photon torpedoes in its arsenal, even though in SW you have to be pretty close to actually hit something even the small ships wouldn't have much effect. They would have to be pretty close to hit any of the ships, thus I use the allowance that the huge ships in SW are more for close side to side combat while the [B]ST ships are more versatile in agility and weapon locking[/B], so there take that.[/QUOTE]
true. In Star Wars all you ever see is a lot of firing on the ground, air, and/or space; and they rarely have good accuracy. Like Alan Quartermain (Sean Connery's character) said to the american boy in "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" :
[Quote]Oh I saw.....Your style is [I]very[/I] American; shoot enough bullets and hope to hit something...!' :p [/quote]
That is basically what you see in SW. Star Trek is the opposite. In SW, the only thing I have seen, even [B][I]remotely[/I][/B] related to attaining impecable accururacy, is the training a Jedi recieves.
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[QUOTE=Apocalypse2001;2625225]hah....
well at least Shogun isn't delusional like somebody else ;) He admits his faults readily[/QUOTE]
Trek I have almost never watched in my life. I am proficient in science and that is basically all I need.
