Climate changes and polar shift

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  1. Light Registered Senior Member

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    Ugh! Even more garbage from the self-proclaimed "genius." Rabon, you're an utter fool. There's no such thing as "gravity opposite" anything. And the core is FAR from ice cold! Where did you ever get such a ridiculous idea????? That's close to insane, given what we already know about it.
     
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  3. Slacker47 Paint it Black Registered Senior Member

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    It still hasnt got cold down here in Austin, Texas. Its a bitch. and no rain
     
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  5. DwayneD.L.Rabon Registered Senior Member

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    Well with all the new changes on earth, it would seem that people will need a some protection, during these magtnetic pole reversals and geopole changes.

    Thanks to the invention of the automoblie assembly line, the human race can produce vehicals/crafts that can protect them through the magnetic pole reversal.



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  7. DwayneD.L.Rabon Registered Senior Member

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    Core is as cold as a ice, probablly from 2 to 50 degrees kelvin
     
  8. Light Registered Senior Member

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    Very well, and exactly what do you base that "information" on?
     
  9. draqon Banned Banned

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    its an anology...the earth represents the society...the core of the earth...represents the heart of the society...with what is going on now...the upcoming World War III w/muslims...that heart has become cold and is not beating at all, it has frozen, for all love has gone...and only hatred remains.
     
  10. protostar Registered Senior Member

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    The Core of the earth, it's dynamo, is over 7000 degrees.
    How else could the Liquid outer mantle, the liquid inner mantle, the solid outer mantle And the earths crust move if it was frozen?
    The Hydro-Thermal vents under the ocean crack and water seeps in
    and it then spews hot lava,magma,rocks every day as it continue to spreads
    and is re-born, the heat is released. How could our earth do that if the
    core was frozen? Heat Transfer system. (convection currents).
    Thats how.
    now, go look that up!
     
  11. Billy T Use Sugar Cane Alcohol car Fuel Valued Senior Member

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    I recently read that planets without a substancial moon, wrt the planet, are not stable in the long term againist spin axis tilting due to periodic perturbation torques by other planets. I am not sure this is true, but it does seem reasonable that spin axis in the ecliptic is the stable position. The moon is slowing going away.

    If the spin axis of Earth were to point nearly at the sun the pole away from sun would be covered with frozen CO2, perhaps O2 and N2 also? The habital zone on Earth might be a quite narrow band or non existent. Can Earth be "gravity gradient stablized" to keep spin axis always pointing towards the sun when it is very slowly spinning (a day of hundreds of hours). If so, surely all the water would be ice in the cold hemisphere. Which fate of dead Earth comes first? Red giant sun or axis line too close to sun?
     
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  12. protostar Registered Senior Member

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    Good one. That would probably depend on the 4 forces:
    Gravity
    Strong Force
    Weak Force
    Electromagnetic Force.
    As is well known, the chandler wobble is generated by the differential pulling of the Moon and the Sun on the Earth's equatorial bulge (and any other concentrations of mass in or on the Earth). This differential pulling is caused by the oblique angles of the orbital planes which bring the Sun and the Moon alternatively above and below the equator, thus tending through orbital time to push one side of the Earth or the other to move faster or slower than the other side to the North or to the South.

    Also, passing through our Solar System A New Comet and its ‘Quantum Anomaly Twin’ has caused great havoc upon not only our Earth, by the complete devastation of our Global Weather Systems, but also upon our Sun, and which upon their splitting trajectories has temporarily lessoned the electrical imbalances between our World and the Sun, but has likewise increased greatly the electrical imbalance in our own atmosphere, and which is evidenced by the increasing amount of lighting and static electricity throughout the entire Globe.

    So powerful has this electrical imbalance been that in many instances snowstorms in the United States even have reported the rare phenomena of Thundersnow
     
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  13. Andre Registered Senior Member

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    Correct, that's called the chaotic zone, when the obliquity cycle and the precession cycle have about the same period and re-enforce each other in resonance. A robust moon would increase the precession cycle and prevent the cycles interacting at resonance. Probably the most important difference between Earth and Venus.

    On the contrary, the poles would be without any ice, that would melt in the half year of the sun day. There may be ice on the equator though with two seasons of sun dusk each year, circling the horizon.
     
  14. Billy T Use Sugar Cane Alcohol car Fuel Valued Senior Member

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    You are surely correct if the Earth still spins. If the moon has escaped, I was expecting almost all of the angular momentum has been removed from Earth and speculating that the solar torques on Earth asymetry could keep one pole always pointing at the sun. Also solar gravity gradient may keep one hemisphere always pointing at the sun.

    In case you do not know about "gravity gradient stablization":

    Years ago many thousands of thin wires were placed into Earth orbit (initialy as a compact cylinder all bound together by some subliming "glue") - Idea was to make an artificial Iononsphere for comunication as the wires were half-wavelength reradiators. Well the wires have never been seen. Presumably they are all gravity gradient stablized with only their ends pointing to the earth.

    At APL were I worked, we used gravity gradient stablization (long boom with mass at end extened from satellite and that was required anyway to get the magnitometers (the 'mass') away from currents in the satellite. This is a cheap way to keep the comunication disk pointing at Earth. (A few high permability magnets rods will damp out any oscillation at no energy cost and with relative low weight and they can not fail. I expect eddie currents induced in the Earth's core or sea water will do the same for Earth if it is gravity gradient stabalized.)

    Let me close by admitting I am only guessing that Earth can keep one hemisphere pointed at the sun. If that is false you are surely right. What do you think?
     
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