when the people of the world will come together as one.

As long as there is no scarcity, money is not an issue.

 

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If we remove money, how will U pay more if I work more, If U dont pay people according to their contributions, they will not work as they do with money. Worst case the people who dont deserve to be paid will become a burden on thoes who work hard and will eventually give up.

 

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First of all, why do you need to be paid more?

 

Actually, Its the other way round, I want to pay my employees more than others so that I can make them work more and get an unfair advantage in business over my competetors.

 

money was established by those in power...

because bartering was so confussing....

SO YES... to set values for trade...

and low and behold.. they could also use it to controll.... and gain more power.

such is why it continues till this day.

-MT

 

Being a businessman, I think U r confused, U should focus more on law and human greed instead of money; if U want to bring out equality among all.

Humans are same everywhere its the system that decides how much welfare and progress exists in society. Make the laws of system foolproof and U get Utopia. And ignore the religion, its a lost system.

 

IF YOUR desire is to chop down a forest.. and all you have is a fish.. it will be hard to do...

if you desire to build a hut.. but all you have is egg shells.. it will be hard to do..

if you want to rule and dominate a people... and all you have is sheep and wheat.. it will be hard to do..



thats why we invent things.. it makes our efforts easier.

as money does...


it facilitates ... what??? wealth...

and so long as you have those with money.. you will have those without.


and so long as you all believe it is so completely nessesary... then it will continue to dominate your lives.


dont get me wrong.. its not going away anytime soon...


but eventually it will go away...

but mankind will have to grow out of its material needs first.

AND THAT CAN ONLY BE DONE BY DEVELOPING AN UNLIMITED FREE SUPPLY OF ENERGY.

-MT

 

I hope U read my previous post, I have already answered that to truthseeker.

Thats why we have taxes, If people like U ignore them then yes there will be people without food water shelter education and equal opportunity to excel with talents they could have possed.

What alternative choices do we have ?

How ?

U cant control evolution.

Its already there.

 

WHAT I DONT UNDERSTAND... is how people can speak as if money is great..

and how its totally nessasary and beneficial for society..??

when you seem completely oblivious to the fact that in the USA...

THERE ARE 3 MILLION HOMELESS.. 3 million,..

thats one percent... 1%...

one out of every 100 people are eating trash....

and still you say money works just great...


well it could... but as usuall... its misdirected... isnt it?

the solution???

you tell me.

-MT

 

I have already told U the solution, its there in this thread, until people like U dont understand it, humans will have to wait for their bioneural evolution to get there.

Because it does justice towards the most productive person in the society and increases the chances of the best genes among them to survive the most.

Money is not greate, its a tool U can use to elivate thoes people from thoes conditions, but that depends on the will of thoes who have already made it.

Look at the world around U, what do U see, where is the tax money spend. Is it all spend on all pain that U posted in this thread. The answer is no, that doesnt mean that no one knows this must be done, the problem is that there is no means for them to direct the tax money where it belongs.
The problem is in human nature, they always want a leader who they like to follow and rely on, this a big flaw, remove it and many problems vanish.

 

Laws are the evidence of the imperfection of the system. if the system was good, there would be no need for laws.

 

3 million crazy people...???

you are an evil piece of crap...

why dont you go out and talk with the old men and women...

do it.. talk to all of them..

what will you find??

alot of depession... alot of fatigue...
alot of abused lives...

a % will be nuts... its true.

but not all.

that you would say such a thing shows how stupid you really are.

you have overcome your own minor problems... and so.. those who dont must all be nuts...?

you scum...

i hope you become homeless... so you can say... hea.. its ok.. cause im crazy.

-MT

 

Abuse will continue until people are educated and reinforced to act in unity, instead of compete against each other until killing each other just to survive....
It's not even a life.....

 

Huummm... I don't know about that guy, but I've gotten close to homeless people (helped them, that is), attended economics classes, built businesses and visited decent museums; so let's see what you have to say...

Are you sure there are only two reasons?

Most common? Well, let's see some statistics, then...
But, yes, it is one of the reasons...

Or maybe they didn't aprove people shocking other people to "help" them... :bugeye:

Clearly, you never been around many homeless people. Here in Canada, most of them fill out many MANY forms to get into welfare, they often get in, but they easily get out and fall back to absolute poverty because the welfare system is designed to barely help people. When they are close to "freedom", they are taken out of the program and subsequently fall back in. To see that, all you need to do is to research the reasons why people are taken out of welfare. The great majority get out simply because they die.

The ones that don't fill forms, are often just illiterate. And even those sometimes are helped with forms...

You never been a homeless.

You have no idea why they are there.

Have you ever studied psychology? If you have had, you would know that there is no such thing.

You are an arrogant ignorant lazy bastard speaking of people you don't know as if they were barely human.

Where are your statistics?

Oh wow! You were so great!
Did you know Bill Gates didn't go to high school?

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Wow. You are so great...

You call it "civilization"....

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Entitlement, eh?

How about some evidence about your "hippie" theory?

 

Fraggle, you know nothing about economics nor homeless people. The main reason why some people become homeless is because they are abused during their childhood. Those people can often become drug addicts (which is in fact the reason why many homeless people are druggies), prostitutes and even serial killers.

The second reason is a lack of education due to the inability of their families to pay for their education or turbulence in their lives.

Here's a copie of a research I made about homeless people.



Happy Homie Project
Education for All

Walking by, in the streets of downtown Victoria, one often sees homeless people. Although some are kind with them, many don’t understand them at all. Some may think that they are just lazy. Others think that they are all drug addicts. But they are often quite different than that. They are humans, just as all of us, and they would like to be considered that way. As one of them says:

“We are a family!
I wish people could see that we are human-
We bleed, we cry, we suffer.
I wish people could see that.”
--Linda Jim

This is the philosophy of the Happy Homie project. At first, I thought my intention was to help homeless people to learn English. But as time went by, I realized that what I really want is to solve their problem and eradicate homelessness. This is a much tougher project, which I’m not sure whether I will be able to accomplish or not. Still, I started researching the causes of homelessness in order to try to solve the problem by resolving the causes.

Interestingly enough, my findings were exactly what I thought to be: lack of education. But lack of education is actually a very broad thing. It is not just the lack of schooling, but also the lack of ability to deal with issues such as drug addiction. However, it all comes down to having proper education and opportunity. Therefore, in order to eradicate homelessness, we need to give them proper education and opportunities.

In the other hand, I’m aware that many people might not see the benefit of helping those people that apparently cannot give us anything back. So instead of defending my thesis in favour of education, I will argue how helping the homeless is better not only for them, but also for all of us. Everyone should have access to education regardless of their income. Education should be a right for everyone, not only because it is fair, but also because it is good for the economy and for the society.

Likely, most people cannot see how helping the homeless can help the economy. However, the reasons are actually very simple. First of all, helping the homeless will reduce the amount of money spent in welfare while increasing the income and purchase power of all people. Welfare is nothing but a band-aid that tries to fix the problems of an inefficient system. Welfare is only beneficial to sustain poor people, but it doesn’t make poor people any richer. Still, welfare will always be necessary as long as we have people living in poverty and below the line of poverty. It is estimated that 25% of people in Victoria lives in such condition, that is, below the line of poverty (Cool Aid). Clearly, when you take into consideration the earnings of people such as the director of Camosun College, which is $200,000 per year (Luxen 2), you can see a huge discrepancy between them, which denotes a system that is either inefficient or corrupt.

Furthermore, when the money is not spent in welfare, it can then be reallocated to more significant things such as healthcare and, of course, education. When the quantity and quality of education increases, income also increases. With a more educated workforce, efficiency goes up and productivity follows. With higher productivity, there’s more economic growth, which indirectly increases income through a greater amount of money in the economy. When income increases, the purchase power and consumption also increases. That also means more cash flow, since people are now buying more. In turn, higher income and purchase power will cause more economic growth. Government-induced accelerated economic growth always creates inflation, because the economy grows out of control. But the economic growth caused by education does not cause inflation because it is not induced - it happens naturally.

Education -> ^Yd


Education -> *^efficiency -> *^productivity-> ^*GDP-> *^Yd -> ^*C -> ^*GDP


Government-induced:

*increase in G or decrease in T -> *^GDP -> ^*inflation (in the LR)


In order to do all that, the government would need to increase taxes and increase expenditure in education. The government would get the money from the taxes and would redirect all the money to the educational system. If the government does not return all the money back, the economy will actually contract. The difference lies on the burden of payment. In the present system, the burden of payment lies on students that have just entered the job market and have barely no money at all. In order to pay, students often take loans, and spend the rest of their lives paying the interest. In this system, however, the burden of payment would lie on all tax payers, which makes it a lot easier on the students since the cost per capita would be much smaller.

*^T-> ^*G-> ^*Ie

This is the system that exists in places such as Denmark and Norway, for example. In those places, their progressive tax system redirects the money from very rich people to poor people, thus levelling out the social system. A progressive tax system is a system where the percentage of tax is directly proportional to the income - that is, poor people pays little or nothing while rich people pay a lot. I would also propose an exponential tax system that would take greater percentages of the income of millionaires, which would not only help the poor, but also it would put back millions of dollars in the economy, increasing cash flow. In any case, for a billionaire, a million dollars is like a thousand dollars for the average person, which won‘t really make much difference for the rich since the cost of living is still the same for everyone.

Aside from increased income and purchase power, education for all people will also induce the development of new technologies. This is a direct consequence of increased quantity and quality of education, since education increases the likelihood of innovations and inventions. With more education and greater income and purchase power, people are more motivated and inspired to invent new things.

Educating the homeless would also bring many social benefits to our community. First of all, education can help reducing the gap between the rich and the poor. As we have looked in the economic implications of education, universal education would level out the income distribution of our economy. With higher income, poor people would be able to afford more than they do right now. Homelessness might still be an issue, since it is fairly hard to eradicate homelessness. No countries in the world have ever fully achieved that. But countries like Denmark and Norway have a very negligible amount of homeless people, compared to other people. The income distribution in those countries is small to the point that the amount of homeless people don’t even affect the income distribution (). To solve the problem of homelessness, those countries -particularly Denmark- uses welfare to “protect” the homeless (). In this case, welfare would be used wisely, because it does not simply maintain everyone but only those that the system couldn’t possibly incorporate.

Another interesting aspect of education is its ability to reduce crime. Research shows that education is always proportionally inverse to crime. However, the real correlation is not between education and crime but inequality and crime(). What actually happens is that as the quality and quantity of education grows, income distribution levels out and reduce the inequality, which than, reduces crime. In Utopia, Thomas More talks about that. He talks about how poverty and inequality induces crime, specially when it comes to autonomous expenditures -particularly food (More 47). He talks about how society generates thieves and than punishes them for stealing (49). Such inequalities between these “noble and gentlemen” (46) and the poor is still very much the same today, even tough the setting and the problems are usually more modern. Inequality has always been one of the major problems in the history of mankind and it might be forever if many keep acting selfishly.

Education also gives power to people. In the medieval times, the church ruled easily because people were blind to the truth. The church had control over all the books. Everything was written in Latin. Only the people in the monasteries could read and write. People were not educated. They couldn’t read nor write - specially when it comes to Latin. In fact, most people couldn’t understand Latin at all, even tough they could at least speak their own languages. So the church used people’s ignorance to stay in power. Once education spread to all people, people were able to understand the mechanics of their society and were empowered to change their situation. A similar thing can happen with homeless people, if they get educated. They will surely have more power over their lives. They might even be able to change their situation. But as long as they are illiterate, they will never be able to have a better life. Only education can give them the power to take control over their lives.

Finally, although education is one of the major causes of homelessness, there are many others that are quite significant and that should be at least cited. For example, drugs often seem to be one of the causes of homelessness. Statistics show that 60% of homeless people are drug addicts (). However, the statistics don’t show whether they were drug addicts before or after they became homeless. In other words, we don’t know whether addiction causes homelessness or homelessness causes addiction! Also, statistics show that 99% of people in jail were neglected or abused in some way during their childhood (NY Times). I have not found statistics correlating homelessness and child abuse although through my contact with homeless people I have found indications that bad parenting is likely one of the major causes of homelessness. Either way, the Happy Homie project will attempt to give the homeless the tools that they need to take control over their lives. In addition, hopefully, helping the homeless will be appreciated and beneficial to all of us - specially them.

“Look beyond what you see. Look beyond what we are at the moment. Look past our appearances and smell. Look into our souls and there, there alone, you will find the beauty you missed.”
-- Anonymous

 

With less homeless and jobless, there will be more taxpayers and hence ...

 

All U are doing is finding excuses to get aways from doing something for others.

No matter how thoes poor people are, what solutions have U suggested for them ?

 

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